IIRC More Than Movies is the same channel as Movie Mix with different branding. It would be interesting to see Sony on Freeview as these are currently not on Freesat, as far as I am aware.
IIRC More Than Movies is the same channel as Movie Mix with different branding. It would be interesting to see Sony on Freeview as these are currently not on Freesat, as far as I am aware.
more>movies are FTA on satellite, but not available on Freesat. Movie Mix is another broadcaster simulcasting more>movies.
The Sony Movie Channel and Sony Entertainment Television channels are currently encrypted but part of the Freesat from Sky bundle (alongside Motors TV, 4 Music, and Liverpool FC TV) but as you say aren't part of Freesat, but would be very worthy additions.
The movies4men and movies4men +1 channels are however on Freesat (and Freeview in Manchester) and part of the same group of channels owned by Sony,
Sony Entertainment Television *is* available on BT Youview and BT Vision via Broadband.
The reason why Sony decided to proceed this way instead of DTT is because of the cost and (lack of) space via the DTT Multiplexes. The reason why Sony TV decided to go FTV instead of FTA is because they were unhappy with the satellite footprint versus cost of rights.
BT are planning on adding more channels because of this to its basic package, because the capacity of Multicast is nowhere near full!!!
Always suspected that the gradual changes to channel 32 has been a way of turning the channel into something else without coming under Digital UK's new channel rule and being demoted.
Now that this has been achieved, it makes little sense to continue operating two channels with the same content.
I will be glad if there are more movies channels on freeview.
Why? In the coming two weeks there are over 250 films being shown spread among LCNs 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 9, 10, 14, 15, 21, 24, 28, 30, 31 and 61. Do we really need more films?
Why? In the coming two weeks there are over 250 films being shown spread among LCNs 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 9, 10, 14, 15, 21, 24, 28, 30, 31 and 61. Do we really need more films?
In a shock move you miss out LCN 32. :D
To answer your question i like movie and the more choice the better anyway it beats more shoppingtelly.
Why? In the coming two weeks there are over 250 films being shown spread among LCNs 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 9, 10, 14, 15, 21, 24, 28, 30, 31 and 61. Do we really need more films?
To answer your question i like movie and the more choice the better anyway it beats more shoppingtelly.
Yes, I realised after I had posted, there are a further 80 films to add as a result. Lets put things in perspective, there are 168 hours in a week and a film is typically 2 hours long so in a week that is 330 hours of films.!
Agreed I would happily swap shopping for films, but there are only so many hours a day viewing time.
I agree with both tomee and moviesman because I'd also like to see more film choice on Freeview (and indeed Freesat for that matter) although I appreciate that we'll never get the most recent cinema blockbuster films on Freeview.
I assume that more>movies will just replace Movie Mix which is the same channel but with different branding. The Sony Movie Channel (see http://www.sonymoviechannel.co.uk/programs) and Sony Movie Channel +1 is a much more potentially interesting development. However (as far as I can tell)), it's not clear from the licences whether these two channels will be proper linear channels for us all to watch or whether they'll be IPTV streamed channels on the subscription VuTV service, for example.
From what i can see on the ofcom list all stream channel or IPTV channels are Licences to Connect TV Limited.whereas none of these new Licences are so i think that everyone should be able to get these channel like we all can get movie mix.
From what i can see on the ofcom list all stream channel or IPTV channels are Licences to Connect TV Limited.whereas none of these new Licences are so i think that everyone should be able to get these channel like we all can get movie mix.
Synapse TV also hold licenses for streamed channels.
A reminder:
DTAS licences - streamed channels, text services.
DTPS licences - "normal" linear channels
Sony's licences are listed as being DTPS.
With London's Local TV service about to go live and the local TV antenna going up at Winter Hill in the past few days expanding coverage across millions more households very soon, I wonder if we might see Sony appear on the local TV multiplexes, replacing the temporary Bonanza Bonanza channel.
No they don't. Synapse TV hold licenses for streamed channels.
A reminder:
DTAS licences - streamed channels, text services.
DTPS licences - "normal" linear channels
Sony's licences are listed as being DTPS.
With London's Local TV service about to go live and the local TV antenna going up at Winter Hill in the past few days expanding coverage across millions more households very soon, I wonder if we might see Sony appear on the local TV multiplexes, replacing the temporary Bonanza Bonanza channel.
Indeed, tomee, and the implication is that these channels will proper linear channels on the Freeview platform because all three have DTPS licences and not DTAS or TLCS (like Sports Tonight Live) licences as set out on page 10 of this Ofcom document here: http://licensing.ofcom.org.uk/binaries/tv/dtps-dtas-guidance.pdf
Synapse TV also hold licenses for streamed channels.
A reminder:
DTAS licences - streamed channels, text services.
DTPS licences - "normal" linear channels
Sony's licences are listed as being DTPS.
With London's Local TV service about to go live and the local TV antenna going up at Winter Hill in the past few days expanding coverage across millions more households very soon, I wonder if we might see Sony appear on the local TV multiplexes, replacing the temporary Bonanza Bonanza channel.
Indeed, tomee, and the implication is that these channels will proper linear channels on the Freeview platform because all three have DTPS licences and not DTAS or TLCS (like Sports Tonight Live) licences as set out on page 10 of this Ofcom document here: http://licensing.ofcom.org.uk/binaries/tv/dtps-dtas-guidance.pdf
Seems strange that they've licenced a +1 rather than their other channel Movies4Men. I wonder if Movie Mix will continue and take the schedule of that channel instead when More Than Movies launches as a stand alone channel.
Seems strange that they've licenced a +1 rather than their other channel Movies4Men. I wonder if Movie Mix will continue and take the schedule of that channel instead when More Than Movies launches as a stand alone channel.
movies4men and movies4men+1 already hold licences thanks to their includsion on the Manchester multiplex.
Sony also owns Crackle UK which is closing April 1st, so wondering if thats the starting date on Freeview?
Could be. Which of their channels shows the same sort of stuff as Crackle?
They might be migrating Movies4Men off of the Manchester mux and replacing that with SMC. SMC has a +1 licenced from the start, which is how Movies4Men has always operated in Manchester, so a direct replacement looks likely (and dropping the +1 for a national mux launch).
Looking at the BARB ratings, Movie Mix (More>Movies) does really well, and I daresay most of that success is down to Freeview. SMC does really badly, so I can see they might want to prop up the ratings.
Men&Movies, which became More>Movies, was on the Manchester mux before Movie Mix morphed into it, so there is precedent.
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more>movies are FTA on satellite, but not available on Freesat. Movie Mix is another broadcaster simulcasting more>movies.
The Sony Movie Channel and Sony Entertainment Television channels are currently encrypted but part of the Freesat from Sky bundle (alongside Motors TV, 4 Music, and Liverpool FC TV) but as you say aren't part of Freesat, but would be very worthy additions.
The movies4men and movies4men +1 channels are however on Freesat (and Freeview in Manchester) and part of the same group of channels owned by Sony,
The reason why Sony decided to proceed this way instead of DTT is because of the cost and (lack of) space via the DTT Multiplexes. The reason why Sony TV decided to go FTV instead of FTA is because they were unhappy with the satellite footprint versus cost of rights.
BT are planning on adding more channels because of this to its basic package, because the capacity of Multicast is nowhere near full!!!
Always suspected that the gradual changes to channel 32 has been a way of turning the channel into something else without coming under Digital UK's new channel rule and being demoted.
Now that this has been achieved, it makes little sense to continue operating two channels with the same content.
But why is there a separate licence?
In a shock move you miss out LCN 32. :D
To answer your question i like movie and the more choice the better anyway it beats more shoppingtelly.
Ain't that the truth - I've just joined Freeview and found 126 channels, and so far have hidden over 70 of them as a waste of time for me.
Agreed I would happily swap shopping for films, but there are only so many hours a day viewing time.
I agree with both tomee and moviesman because I'd also like to see more film choice on Freeview (and indeed Freesat for that matter) although I appreciate that we'll never get the most recent cinema blockbuster films on Freeview.
I assume that more>movies will just replace Movie Mix which is the same channel but with different branding. The Sony Movie Channel (see http://www.sonymoviechannel.co.uk/programs) and Sony Movie Channel +1 is a much more potentially interesting development. However (as far as I can tell)), it's not clear from the licences whether these two channels will be proper linear channels for us all to watch or whether they'll be IPTV streamed channels on the subscription VuTV service, for example.
A reminder:
DTAS licences - streamed channels, text services.
DTPS licences - "normal" linear channels
Sony's licences are listed as being DTPS.
With London's Local TV service about to go live and the local TV antenna going up at Winter Hill in the past few days expanding coverage across millions more households very soon, I wonder if we might see Sony appear on the local TV multiplexes, replacing the temporary Bonanza Bonanza channel.
Indeed, tomee, and the implication is that these channels will proper linear channels on the Freeview platform because all three have DTPS licences and not DTAS or TLCS (like Sports Tonight Live) licences as set out on page 10 of this Ofcom document here: http://licensing.ofcom.org.uk/binaries/tv/dtps-dtas-guidance.pdf
You are both most wise.
Thank you both for the information.
movies4men and movies4men+1 already hold licences thanks to their includsion on the Manchester multiplex.
Could be. Which of their channels shows the same sort of stuff as Crackle?
They might be migrating Movies4Men off of the Manchester mux and replacing that with SMC. SMC has a +1 licenced from the start, which is how Movies4Men has always operated in Manchester, so a direct replacement looks likely (and dropping the +1 for a national mux launch).
Looking at the BARB ratings, Movie Mix (More>Movies) does really well, and I daresay most of that success is down to Freeview. SMC does really badly, so I can see they might want to prop up the ratings.
Men&Movies, which became More>Movies, was on the Manchester mux before Movie Mix morphed into it, so there is precedent.
Can some one who is on twitter please ask sony about information regarding freeview.
1. What LCNs?
2. Will the channels be uk wide?
3. What date do the channels start broadcasting on freeview?