The friend does work. As its two buses from two different companies its 25 a week for 1 bus pass and 18 for the other bus company.
But that's still not £14.00 per day is it.
buy a 7 day pass for £25,00 a week and use for 5 days - £5.00 per day
buy a 7 days pass for £18.00 a week and use for 5 days - that's 3.60 per day
Add it up and its £8.60 per day - use both your 7 day passes for 6 or 7 days and the price per day will go down in pro
The freedom pass scheme in London - which is of course far more generous as it covers the tube/rail as well - costs about £320m a year. I think the overall cost nationally isn't far off £1bn.
I don't know how those costs are estimated. How do they know when a Freedom Pass is being used? Also, if people with Freedom Passes had to start paying, very many wouldn't be travelling, so there would be no extra revenue.
Have the bus companies had to put their prices up because of pensioners using their free bus pass, because that is what you were claiming
He has no answer to that because it is simply not true. The price of bus travel has been going up above the rate of inflation for donkey's years. Accelerated of course by the Tories deregulation of the buses in the mid 1980's which has proved to be yet another Tory Privatisation Disaster where we were promised more buses and cheaper services due to competition, in reality bus services are now in the hands of just a few large operators and in most places there is no local competition and prices have rocketed.
buy a 7 day pass for £25,00 a week and use for 5 days - £5.00 per day
buy a 7 days pass for £18.00 a week and use for 5 days - that's 3.60 per day
Add it up and its £8.60 per day - use both your 7 day passes for 6 or 7 days and the price per day will go down in pro
14 something is the day price. Obviously weekly tickets are cheaper but doesn't help if you work part time.
He has no answer to that because it is simply not true. The price of bus travel has been going up above the rate of inflation for donkey's years. Accelerated of course by the Tories deregulation of the buses in the mid 1980's which has proved to be yet another Tory Privatisation Disaster where we were promised more buses and cheaper services due to competition, in reality bus services are now in the hands of just a few large operators and in most places there is no local competition and prices have rocketed.
I don't know how those costs are estimated. How do they know when a Freedom Pass is being used? Also, if people with Freedom Passes had to start paying, very many wouldn't be travelling, so there would be no extra revenue.
Freedom passes are issued on oyster cards. Every journey is recorded so it's very easy to work out the cost which is based on a marginal cost model developed by Transport for London I believe.
Just think when pensioners today were young buses were very few and far between, which is why we mostly walked to wherever we wanted to go or we got on our bikes and rode there. Maybe that's something todays young could try.
You don't really believe bus fares will go down if they get rid of concessionary bus passes do you ?
Considering how people are expected to find work up to one and half hours public transport commuting distance on JSA, the equivalent distance you could go from where I live would take up to 12 hours to walk and many hours to bike. How practical is that for a daily commute when people are expected by the jobcentre to find work many miles away or face sanctions?
And considering the numbers of people outside of college and school buses who travel the buses, if we get rid of funding for elderly and disabled bus passes, the only thing that will go are the buses!
There are rumours of severely curtailed or abolished services here come the end of the year with the council negotiations due in August to ensure we still have a bus service! Another consequence of local cuts.
They just have to apply once get a five year card, a new one is automatically sent out. As its free they did apply as its handy every so often like when dropping the car off for a mot.
So who knows better you who according to your profile are 17 or me who last week sat with my Husband when he had to REAPPLY on line - I mean I was actually with him when he DID IT
So who knows better you who according to your profile are 17 or me who last week sat with my Husband when he had to REAPPLY on line - I mean I was actually with him when he DID IT
Yup almost sure we will have to re-apply quite soon...
Have you ever thought about the health affects of people who are still living at home in their 30s, can't afford a car, huge uni debt and can only get a low skilled job?
...and can walk or cycle places. Like their local doctor's surgery, which they don't need to because they're young and healthy.
Considering how people are expected to find work up to one and half hours public transport commuting distance on JSA, the equivalent distance you could go from where I live would take up to 12 hours to walk and many hours to bike. How practical is that for a daily commute when people are expected by the jobcentre to find work many miles away or face sanctions?
And considering the numbers of people outside of college and school buses who travel the buses, if we get rid of funding for elderly and disabled bus passes, the only thing that will go are the buses!
There are rumours of severely curtailed or abolished services here come the end of the year with the council negotiations due in August to ensure we still have a bus service! Another consequence of local cuts.
Obviously I wasn't talking about young people walking or going on a bike when traveling long distances.
Maybe I should have made it clearer but I didn't think for one minute that anyone would come to the conclusion that I was saying young people should walk for up to 12 hours a day.
So who knows better you who according to your profile are 17 or me who last week sat with my Husband when he had to REAPPLY on line - I mean I was actually with him when he DID IT
Well you don't re apply here, I know because last week my nan was upset when her late husbands new card was automatically sent out. He died 3 years ago.
Why shouldn't they be axed? Why should the poorest people in society pay for this perk that they will probably never get?
Why won't they get it and how are the poorest paying? Isn't it paid for through taxation, of which the "the poorest people in society" are net recipients?
Why won't they get it and how are the poorest paying? Isn't it paid for through taxation, of which the "the poorest people in society" are net recipients?
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But that's still not £14.00 per day is it.
buy a 7 day pass for £25,00 a week and use for 5 days - £5.00 per day
buy a 7 days pass for £18.00 a week and use for 5 days - that's 3.60 per day
Add it up and its £8.60 per day - use both your 7 day passes for 6 or 7 days and the price per day will go down in pro
I don't know how those costs are estimated. How do they know when a Freedom Pass is being used? Also, if people with Freedom Passes had to start paying, very many wouldn't be travelling, so there would be no extra revenue.
Didn't you have a free pass when you went to school? Have you recently had to give it up or something?
Don't take it out on the elderly. They deserve their free passes.
14 something is the day price. Obviously weekly tickets are cheaper but doesn't help if you work part time.
Already answered, twice.
They deserve political sweeteners rather than a decent pension?
So, why not a decent pension, and a bus pass??
Freedom passes are issued on oyster cards. Every journey is recorded so it's very easy to work out the cost which is based on a marginal cost model developed by Transport for London I believe.
And considering the numbers of people outside of college and school buses who travel the buses, if we get rid of funding for elderly and disabled bus passes, the only thing that will go are the buses!
There are rumours of severely curtailed or abolished services here come the end of the year with the council negotiations due in August to ensure we still have a bus service! Another consequence of local cuts.
I don't begrudge them getting either.
How many days a week does she work
The current system is already unaffordable and each year its getting worse. Someone will have to pickup the tab for the debt.
So who knows better you who according to your profile are 17 or me who last week sat with my Husband when he had to REAPPLY on line - I mean I was actually with him when he DID IT
And, will removing the free bus pass reduce the pension debt?
Yup almost sure we will have to re-apply quite soon...
...and can walk or cycle places. Like their local doctor's surgery, which they don't need to because they're young and healthy.
Obviously I wasn't talking about young people walking or going on a bike when traveling long distances.
Maybe I should have made it clearer but I didn't think for one minute that anyone would come to the conclusion that I was saying young people should walk for up to 12 hours a day.
Do you blame your grandparents to their face, do you also blame your parents for bringing you into this hard unfair unjust world.
Well you don't re apply here, I know because last week my nan was upset when her late husbands new card was automatically sent out. He died 3 years ago.
Why won't they get it and how are the poorest paying? Isn't it paid for through taxation, of which the "the poorest people in society" are net recipients?
People in their 60s are unable to cycle? Young people never get unwell? Please do tell me more?
Only if you've got kids.
These passes will not exist for people below 40.
And how exactly will removing some pensioners from the service help your friend?
You are wrong and don't seem to be able to answer the point. You don't need kids to get housing benefit or council tax benefit.