the 50p per pensioner charge I don't believe would put that many off and (in my personal way it
should be done ) would be in add to payments from the council
Do you remember when everyone paid a fare. it used to take ages especially as a lot of people did not have the exact change, that is besides the additional cost of security for the cash on board the bus. I have suggested many times an admin charge of £20 per annum for a bus pass as a far more effective approach.
Do you remember when everyone paid a fare. it used to take ages especially as a lot of people did not have the exact change, that is besides the additional cost of security for the cash on board the bus. I have suggested many times an admin charge of £20 per annum for a bus pass as a far more effective approach.
I remember when they had bus conductors and you got on the bus at the back.and you didn't have a clue who was driving the bus.
Obviously you know everything about my personal circumstances so you you know what opportunities are realistic for me or my family
May I ask what the job your nephew moved for was?[/QUOTE]
He is a plumber and got offered the chance of being a partner in a firm rather then working for someone else - he is 28
that's a skilled job (and well paid I believe) uprouting a family for a job in poundland (which would be the likeliest prospect for me or my partner) isn't exactly as possible
Time is money, why do you want to slow the buses down? I would much rather have a system where no money changed hands on the bus
There won't be any cash used on buses soon enough anyway, even in the rural backend of beyond where I live the buses (run by a small village based company)are all equipped with oyster style rfid card readers it's just at present theyre only used for scanning the pensioners on, won't be long before us paying customers will be paying on a card I'm sure
I just offered an alternative (and yes more expensive for you) suggestion but it'd still be a bargain compared to what younger people pay
But not a bargin for the bus companies, if the number of people using the buses goes down, means they will cut routes and services for everyone so end up that everyone losses, and if not cut the services then increases the prices to protect thier income
They certainly have more alternatives to public transport and less need to use it unless working. Far less likely to have regular doctor's appointments to go to for example.
They certainly have more alternatives to public transport and less need to use it unless working. Far less likely to have regular doctor's appointments to go to for example.
And what of younger people working pet time on minimum wage where the bus fair could be the best part of an hours wages each day, can make them far far far worse off working than on the dole
How do you know you will always be fit to drive your Merc?
There are many reasons why people stop driving later on in life, many of which are not classified as being officially disabled, and so will not qualify for any additional support. Which might be nothing more than losing confidence in their own ability to drive safely.
If someone wants to drive instead of using a bus, then they don’t apply for a bus-pass, which is simple enough.
Be careful what you don't wish for - because the ageing process can be cruel and doesn't work to rules of fairness.
Well actually the aging process is never far from my thoughts in fact it is what prompts my to indulge in a little extravagance that I can afford before it is too late.
But not a bargin for the bus companies, if the number of people using the buses goes down, means they will cut routes and services for everyone so end up that everyone losses, and if not cut the services then increases the prices to protect thier income
Bus companies are only botherd about making a profit, nothing else
So as long as the actual level of subsidies is maintained there won't be a problem, just put it in through the general subsidy not the bus pass payments
And what of younger people working pet time on minimum wage where the bus fair could be the best part of an hours wages each day, can make them far far far worse off working than on the dole
That is an excellent response, it gives justification for extending travel concessions beyond the relatively wealthy pensioners.
So as long as the actual level of subsidies is maintained there won't be a problem, just put it in through the general subsidy not the bus pass payments
That is a good idea, saying most other counties subsidies public trasnsport in a big way, were we did this at one time when public transport was state run, but we gave that idea up and turned public tranport in profit making for the private sector, the railways are the perfect example of this, no private company would touch rail services if the subsidies were taken away
Yes I am, several times when the bus prices increase one of the reasons given is the reduction in the substudy paid for pensioner and disabled bus passes.
The point is they cant remove the bribe as they are scared of pensioners and don't care for the young.
Shop around..
In Glasgow, if you buy a First 10 Week for £88, it is just over a £1 day for 10 weeks
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That's what I've said, but it doesn't seem to be good enough.
Pensioners already do pay £12.00 per year for the Metro in Tyne and Wear, but they get free travel on the Buses which is absolutely deserved.
Ian.
Where I live pensioners can travel on most buses, trains and Mersey Ferries within Merseyside. Up to now I've only used mine on the buses.
Do you remember when everyone paid a fare. it used to take ages especially as a lot of people did not have the exact change, that is besides the additional cost of security for the cash on board the bus. I have suggested many times an admin charge of £20 per annum for a bus pass as a far more effective approach.
I remember when they had bus conductors and you got on the bus at the back.and you didn't have a clue who was driving the bus.
Yes i remember them and ours were old trolly buses with big poles getting the electric from over head cables. https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=derby+trolleybuses&client=firefox-a&hs=PhD&sa=X&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&channel=np&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&ei=KI5SU92dH-bb7AbAwYHICQ&ved=0CD0QsAQ&biw=1366&bih=639
They still have those buses in Blackpool, or they did the last time I was there.
I just offered an alternative (and yes more expensive for you) suggestion but it'd still be a bargain compared to what younger people pay
But younger people are still earning and have more alternatives than old people.
Time is money, why do you want to slow the buses down? I would much rather have a system where no money changed hands on the bus
There won't be any cash used on buses soon enough anyway, even in the rural backend of beyond where I live the buses (run by a small village based company)are all equipped with oyster style rfid card readers it's just at present theyre only used for scanning the pensioners on, won't be long before us paying customers will be paying on a card I'm sure
Not necessarily true at all
But not a bargin for the bus companies, if the number of people using the buses goes down, means they will cut routes and services for everyone so end up that everyone losses, and if not cut the services then increases the prices to protect thier income
They certainly have more alternatives to public transport and less need to use it unless working. Far less likely to have regular doctor's appointments to go to for example.
There is more justification for giving young folk travel concessions than what there are for old people.
And what of younger people working pet time on minimum wage where the bus fair could be the best part of an hours wages each day, can make them far far far worse off working than on the dole
Well actually the aging process is never far from my thoughts in fact it is what prompts my to indulge in a little extravagance that I can afford before it is too late.
Depends how the alternative is structured
So as long as the actual level of subsidies is maintained there won't be a problem, just put it in through the general subsidy not the bus pass payments
That is an excellent response, it gives justification for extending travel concessions beyond the relatively wealthy pensioners.
Shop around..
In Glasgow, if you buy a First 10 Week for £88, it is just over a £1 day for 10 weeks
http://www.firstgroup.com/ukbus/glasgow/tickets/firstweek/