sometimes when people see facts that point out what they previously thought or understood, they do change their opinions. I presume you've changed your mind about something before after learning more information about it?
But continually saying "give them a choice", "why should it be different?" Isn't giving anything new. It's just asking the same people the same question and getting the same response.
working is retail is typically far from "hard". it's one of the easiest jobs I've had. try doing manual labour such as being a labourer or coal miner or binman. getting time off in a retail post is little to no different to getting time off in any other area of employment. it will depend on an employer by employer basis and depend on the busy times of the business. remember stores often have additional staff they can employ at the weekends, such as students, so they can cope with the demands of the business and allow some staff to have it as a day off. typically staff who work in retail outlets that are open 7 days a week will work 5 days and have 2 days off and days of work and rest will vary on a week to week basis, so everyone gets a chance of getting different days of the week off, including Saturdays and sundays. in addition to this staff can use annual leave to request additional days off, just like employees in most other businesses
Just to add. If someone works in a school. They know they can't take holidays during term time. In the same way that if someone works in retail, they know it's unlikely they're going to be able to take a holiday November to mid January.
Really? Even those on a 4 hour contract desperate for more hours?
Why does that not apply to all the other people that on a Sunday in different jobs and industries?
Abolishing the Sunday trading law simply means all retail have the choice to trade when they want to 7 days a week, just as all retailers currently have that choice for 6 out of 7 days a week. Some retailers do already have the choice to trade as and when they like 7 days a week, so why only restrict some?
However you spin it, giving the retails giants even more scope to F up the life of their staff and make them work longer on Sundays won't benefit those staff members in the longer term.
Initially working on Sundays tended to mean more money, but those days have long gone. If you want shops open all day, seven days a week, then let's open all the offices and those on a comfy Monday-Friday 9-5 shift can work Sundays as well.
But continually saying "give them a choice", "why should it be different?" Isn't giving anything new. It's just asking the same people the same question and getting the same response.
The same response of either nothing or an answer that is not specific to retail or has nothing to do with Sunday trading or Sunday trading laws.
However you spin it, giving the retails giants even more scope to F up the life of their staff and make them work longer on Sundays won't benefit those staff members in the longer term.
Initially working on Sundays tended to mean more money, but those days have long gone. If you want shops open all day, seven days a week, then let's open all the offices and those on a comfy Monday-Friday 9-5 shift can work Sundays as well.
No thanks it's bad enough people thinking I am available via email out of hours and whilst on holiday
So its fine for you to bring up issues which are not relevant to Sunday Trading Laws but not me? That's terribly one sided.
And both of those questions have been answered in the Hansard links I provided earlier but you are stubbornly refusing to read. Until you have spent some time reading both documents and understanding why no Government until now has deregulated trading laws for stores above 290m², all questions and arguments are moot.
Then maybe you could quote the part from the links that answer the questions.
1. What is the difference between someone working in a store with a retail area of 270m² for 8 hours on a Sunday to someone working in a store with a retail area of 290m²?
2. What is the difference between a shop with a retail area of 270m² trading for 8 hours on a Sunday to a shop with a retail area of 290m² trading for 8 hours on a Sunday?
However you spin it, giving the retails giants even more scope to F up the life of their staff and make them work longer on Sundays won't benefit those staff members in the longer term.
Initially working on Sundays tended to mean more money, but those days have long gone. If you want shops open all day, seven days a week, then let's open all the offices and those on a comfy Monday-Friday 9-5 shift can work Sundays as well.
Only retail giants? What about someone who runs one store or a small chain of stores, all of which have a retail area of 290m²? They are restricted too.
Also, there are many, many huge companies that run/trade on a Sunday. Again, not specific to retail, Sunday trading or Sunday trading law.
The whole office point has been said, many, many times. Offcies can open on Saturdays and Sunday if they wish to. There is no law saying they must open Mon-Fri 9-5. Retail, with store over 280m², are the only retailers and indusrry that has restrictions placed upon them by law.
Please answer these two questions:
1. What is the difference between someone working in a store with a retail area of 270m² for 8 hours on a Sunday to someone working in a store with a retail area of 290m²?
2. What is the difference between a shop with a retail area of 270m² trading for 8 hours on a Sunday to a shop with a retail area of 290m² trading for 8 hours on a Sunday?
I'd like an answer to a very simple question. those all for the Sunday trading laws staying in place or in favour of no Sunday trading at all have great difficulty in answering a very simple question.
Why is it ok for a store of retail area 270m² to trade 8hours on a Sunday, but not for a store with a retail area of 290m²?
Why are people ok with someone working in a store for 8 hours on a Sunday in a store with a retail area of 270m², but 290m²? It doesn't make any sense.
Why is someone against a person going into a shop and buying a tshirt on a Sunday when it has no affect on them whatsoever.
But you're not getting an answer to that question. People just think that it's ok how it is. It doesn't have any impact on the Sunday Trading Laws, even if we all agreed here that STL's are outdated, it isn't going to change anything.
If it happens and the law is changed fine, but some people just don't see an issue with the current system that works and has worked for years.
Has anybody ever gone hungry because a supermarket wasn't open at 7pm on a Sunday? Has anybody ever been deprived of clothing because Debenhams close after six hours of trading? There isn't really a need to change the STL's because the current system works just fine as it is.
The same response of either nothing or an answer that is not specific to retail or has nothing to do with Sunday trading or Sunday trading laws.
The question originally asked was do you think STL's are outdated. If people have answered the question, that they don't think they are, what's the problem? Just let it go. If they haven't answered in 44 pages, they probably ain't going to now lol
Abrasive due to people not being able answer simple questions.
Sunday trading and Sunday trading laws have nothing to do with "24/7 culture". Every other industry can trade/run when they like. Allowing that freedom to continue for all retailer (instead of some) will not change the "24/7 society".
Whether a store opens or not on a Sunday has nothing to do with "24/7 society".
Could you please answer two simple questions for me?
1. What is the difference between someone working in a store with a retail area of 270m² for 8 hours on a Sunday to someone working in a store with a retail area of 290m²?
2. What is the difference between a shop with a retail area of 270m² trading for 8 hours on a Sunday to a shop with a retail area of 290m² trading for 8 hours on a Sunday?
It is part of the 24/7 society though and is relevant.
I'm not answering your questions as I've not brought them into the discussion and have stated (twice) that I think it is inevitable that the Sunday trading laws will be amended.
But you're not getting an answer to that question. People just think that it's ok how it is. It doesn't have any impact on the Sunday Trading Laws, even if we all agreed here that STL's are outdated, it isn't going to change anything.
If it happens and the law is changed fine, but some people just don't see an issue with the current system that works and has worked for years.
Has anybody ever gone hungry because a supermarket wasn't open at 7pm on a Sunday? Has anybody ever been deprived of clothing because Debenhams close after six hours of trading? There isn't really a need to change the STL's because the current system works just fine as it is.
Has anybody ever gone hungry before McDonald's traded 24/7? No. No one's up in arms about them choosing their own trading hours though.
Did anybody ever feel deprived of tv channels when there was limited tv? No. No one's up in arms about tv broadcasters and companies trading whenever they like on the hundreds of channels now available.
No one cares when other businesses trade except for when it comes to a shop trading on a Sunday with a retail area larger than 280m². It makes no sense.
Then maybe you could quote the part from the links that answer the questions.
1. What is the difference between someone working in a store with a retail area of 270m² for 8 hours on a Sunday to someone working in a store with a retail area of 290m²?
2. What is the difference between a shop with a retail area of 270m² trading for 8 hours on a Sunday to a shop with a retail area of 290m² trading for 8 hours on a Sunday?
I'm not doing all the hard work that ideally you should be doing to prove your side of the discussion. Your answers are likely within those documents, although I suspect, they'll be answers you won't want to see...
You really will do anything to get out of answering a question.
Please answer these two questions:
1. What is the difference between someone working in a store with a retail area of 270m² for 8 hours on a Sunday to someone working in a store with a retail area of 290m²?
2. What is the difference between a shop with a retail area of 270m² trading for 8 hours on a Sunday to a shop with a retail area of 290m² trading for 8 hours on a Sunday?
You keep asking questions which have actual, factual answers.
Before the law liberalising Sunday trading was introduced, a number of large companies traded illegally on Sundays because the penalties for doing so were insufficient to act as a deterrent. However, smaller shops could not trade legally on Sundays and could not afford to risk the fines for breaking the law. When the law was changed it included the stipulation relating to the size of shops in order to redress the balance, so that smaller shops would not be driven out of business by larger chains. In doing so it also liberalised opening hours for smaller branches of large chains. This has led to a massive increase in the number of convenience stores but has also enabled some smaller independent shops to survive as the focus has shifted from out-of-town shopping to local stores.
Laws are not abstract concepts, they are regulations which exist for a reason. If the reason they exist ceases to be a valid one then it's likely they will be changed.
edit: I see tghe-retford has now cited documents that answer the questions
Has anybody ever gone hungry before McDonald's traded 24/7? No. No one's up in arms about them choosing their own trading hours though.
Did anybody ever feel deprived of tv channels when there was limited tv? No. No one's up in arms about tv broadcasters and companies trading whenever they like on the hundreds of channels now available.
No one cares when other businesses trade except for when it comes to a shop trading on a Sunday with a retail area larger than 280m². It makes no sense.
Does anybody actually care? Or are they answering a question asked of them on an Internet forum and have just given their opinion on that question.
If people, a majority of people across the country, actually cared and wanted the law changed, somebody would do something about it. As it is, the current system works. You never hear retailers lobbying for a change, you never hear consumers complain that the shops are closed and they simply didn't have the time in the other six days a week they were open.
If the law changed, people aren't going to be upset about it. They have just given an opinion on a forum. No matter how much you continually ask the same questions over and over and over again, that opinion isn't going to change. And unless people actually do something, the law isn't going to either.
Does anybody actually care? Or are they answering a question asked of them on an Internet forum and have just given their opinion on that question.
If people, a majority of people across the country, actually cared and wanted the law changed, somebody would do something about it. As it is, the current system works. You never hear retailers lobbying for a change, you never hear consumers complain that the shops are closed and they simply didn't have the time in the other six days a week they were open.
If the law changed, people aren't going to be upset about it. They have just given an opinion on a forum. No matter how much you continually ask the same questions over and over and over again, that opinion isn't going to change. And unless people actually do something, the law isn't going to either.
I'm not doing all the hard work that ideally you should be doing to prove your side of the discussion. Your answers are likely within those documents, although I suspect, they'll be answers you won't want to see...
You are the one who said abolishing Sunday trading laws would mean there'd be no "work/life balance" no "family time" and all employees would be "taken advantage of". I said that has nothing to do with Sunday trading laws and can be applied to every other business and industry. In reply in posted the same two links you've posted again.
I asked you the what the difference was between someone working/trading in a store of a retail area of 270m² for 8 hours on a Sunday compared to the same with a retail area of 290m². Again, you posted the same links.
Please quote the part of the links that answers the question. I do not have the time to read through such long links. So please answer the question -
1. What is the difference between someone working in a store with a retail area of 270m² for 8 hours on a Sunday to someone working in a store with a retail area of 290m²?
2. What is the difference between a shop with a retail area of 270m² trading for 8 hours on a Sunday to a shop with a retail area of 290m² trading for 8 hours on a Sunday?
You keep asking questions which have actual, factual answers.
Before the law liberalising Sunday trading was introduced, a number of large companies traded illegally on Sundays because the penalties for doing so were insufficient to act as a deterrent. However, smaller shops could not trade legally on Sundays and could not afford to risk the fines for breaking the law. When the law was changed it included the stipulation relating to the size of shops in order to redress the balance, so that smaller shops would not be driven out of business by larger chains. In doing so it also liberalised opening hours for smaller branches of large chains. This has led to a massive increase in the number of convenience stores but has also enabled some smaller independent shops to survive as the focus has shifted from out-of-town shopping to local stores.
Laws are not abstract concepts, they are regulations which exist for a reason. If the reason they exist ceases to be a valid one then it's likely they will be changed.
edit: I see tghe-retford has now cited documents that answer the questions
The law does restrict smaller chains though as it's perfectly possible for a sole trader or someone to run a small chain of shops all of which have a retail area of 280m² and bigger.
The law only restricts shops with a certain retail area, not retailers of a certain size (e.g. conglomerates).
Does anybody actually care? Or are they answering a question asked of them on an Internet forum and have just given their opinion on that question.
If people, a majority of people across the country, actually cared and wanted the law changed, somebody would do something about it. As it is, the current system works. You never hear retailers lobbying for a change, you never hear consumers complain that the shops are closed and they simply didn't have the time in the other six days a week they were open.
If the law changed, people aren't going to be upset about it. They have just given an opinion on a forum. No matter how much you continually ask the same questions over and over and over again, that opinion isn't going to change. And unless people actually do something, the law isn't going to either.
Retford cares as he is the one insisted on without Sunday trading laws their would be no "work/life balance", "no family time" and "employees would be taken advantage of". None of this is specific to retail, Sunday trading or Sunday trading laws. When asked to prove any of this, he has no comeback. He just posts the same link over and over again.
It hasn't changed due to the majority of people not knowing about the law or not read the law and don't know how unfair the law is against retailers with a store(s) of a certain size in certain locations and against all other businesses and industries.
Abolishing the law just means all retailers have the freedom to trade when they want to - just like every other business and industry and just like some retailers already can. What is wrong with freedom?
Those that favour business freedom, the right to earn money every day, having the ability to buy what they want when they want and the anti-religious.
and
Those that believe there's more to life than consumerism, who want the entire family to be off work for one day every week, the workers who are fed up with feeling pressured by greedy businesses to work every day and random days including Sunday, those who see life as too work-orientated and believe that 7 days a week is harmful and the religious.
Please answer these two questions:
1. What is the difference between someone working in a store with a retail area of 270m² for 8 hours on a Sunday to someone working in a store with a retail area of 290m²?
2. What is the difference between a shop with a retail area of 270m² trading for 8 hours on a Sunday to a shop with a retail area of 290m² trading for 8 hours on a Sunday?
You are the one who said abolishing Sunday trading laws would mean there'd be no "work/life balance" no "family time" and all employees would be "taken advantage of". I said that has nothing to do with Sunday trading laws and can be applied to every other business and industry. In reply in posted the same two links you've posted again.
I asked you the what the difference was between someone working/trading in a store of a retail area of 270m² for 8 hours on a Sunday compared to the same with a retail area of 290m². Again, you posted the same links.
Please quote the part of the links that answers the question. I do not have the time to read through such long links. So please answer the question -
1. What is the difference between someone working in a store with a retail area of 270m² for 8 hours on a Sunday to someone working in a store with a retail area of 290m²?
2. What is the difference between a shop with a retail area of 270m² trading for 8 hours on a Sunday to a shop with a retail area of 290m² trading for 8 hours on a Sunday?
The law does restrict smaller chains though as it's perfectly possible for a sole trader or someone to run a small chain of shops all of which have a retail area of 280m² and bigger.
The law only restricts shops with a certain retail area, not retailers of a certain size (e.g. conglomerates).
If you can't be bothered to read the links given there no point in further discussions, if you're that concerned about large supermarkets not opening for longer on Sunday petition your MP to raise the point in Parliment it seems that most people are happy with the status quo
Those that favour business freedom, the right to earn money every day, having the ability to buy what they want when they want and the anti-religious.
and
Those that believe there's more to life than consumerism, who want the entire family to be off work for one day every week, the workers who are fed up with feeling pressured by greedy businesses to work every day and random days including Sunday, those who see life as too work-orientated and believe that 7 days a week is harmful and the religious.
The latter of which that is non specific to retail.
If those in the latter category were that bothered, they'd be wanting the Sunday trading law extended to include tv, internet, cinemas, eating establishments, pubs, hotels, public transport, gyms, leisure centres, power stations etc.
Retford cares as he is the one insisted on without Sunday trading laws their would be no "work/life balance", "no family time" and "employees would be taken advantage of". None of this is specific to retail, Sunday trading or Sunday trading laws. When asked to prove any of this, he has no comeback. He just posts the same link over and over again.
It hasn't changed due to the majority of people not knowing about the law or not read the law and don't know how unfair the law is against retailers with a store(s) of a certain size in certain locations and against all other businesses and industries.
Abolishing the law just means all retailers have the freedom to trade when they want to - just like every other business and industry and just like some retailers already can. What is wrong with freedom?
If retailers were actually that bother about it they'd be campaigning for the law to change
The latter of which that is non specific to retail.
If those in the latter category were that bothered, they'd be wanting the Sunday trading law extended to include tv, internet, cinemas, eating establishments, pubs, hotels, public transport, gyms, leisure centres, power stations etc.
Retford cares as he is the one insisted on without Sunday trading laws their would be no "work/life balance", "no family time" and "employees would be taken advantage of". None of this is specific to retail, Sunday trading or Sunday trading laws. When asked to prove any of this, he has no comeback. He just posts the same link over and over again.
It hasn't changed due to the majority of people not knowing about the law or not read the law and don't know how unfair the law is against retailers with a store(s) of a certain size in certain locations and against all other businesses and industries.
Abolishing the law just means all retailers have the freedom to trade when they want to - just like every other business and industry and just like some retailers already can. What is wrong with freedom?
Do you want me to change my opinion and agree with yours?
Plenty of people will know that it's legally required for shops to close on Sundays. In fact, I'm sure at least the 10,000 people required on that petition site, probably many many more, will know that. As it stands, only 91 people actually care enough to search for it.
People have to do something about it if they want the law abolished. The retailers need to come out and say they want the law abolished. People have to actually do something. So the people that do know either don't care or can't be bothered to do something about it, meaning it isn't THAT important to them
If you can't be bothered to read the links given there no point in further discussions, if you're that concerned about large supermarkets not opening for longer on Sunday petition your MP to raise the point in Parliment it seems that most people are happy with the status quo
Supermarkets are not the only retailers!
If the answer is in the link and you and Retford are that confident the answer is in the link. then why not just quote the part that answers the question.
By not answering the question, it's like me asking what's the 21st letter of the alphabet and just posting all 26 letters of the alphabet as the answer.
ok, I'l reprhrase the question:
1. What is, in your opinion, the difference between someone working in a store with a retail area of 270m² for 8 hours on a Sunday to someone working in a store with a retail area of 290m²?
2. What is, in your opinion, the difference between a shop with a retail area of 270m² trading for 8 hours on a Sunday to a shop with a retail area of 290m² trading for 8 hours on a Sunday?
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But continually saying "give them a choice", "why should it be different?" Isn't giving anything new. It's just asking the same people the same question and getting the same response.
Just to add. If someone works in a school. They know they can't take holidays during term time. In the same way that if someone works in retail, they know it's unlikely they're going to be able to take a holiday November to mid January.
It's exactly the same thing.
However you spin it, giving the retails giants even more scope to F up the life of their staff and make them work longer on Sundays won't benefit those staff members in the longer term.
Initially working on Sundays tended to mean more money, but those days have long gone. If you want shops open all day, seven days a week, then let's open all the offices and those on a comfy Monday-Friday 9-5 shift can work Sundays as well.
The same response of either nothing or an answer that is not specific to retail or has nothing to do with Sunday trading or Sunday trading laws.
No thanks it's bad enough people thinking I am available via email out of hours and whilst on holiday
Then maybe you could quote the part from the links that answer the questions.
1. What is the difference between someone working in a store with a retail area of 270m² for 8 hours on a Sunday to someone working in a store with a retail area of 290m²?
2. What is the difference between a shop with a retail area of 270m² trading for 8 hours on a Sunday to a shop with a retail area of 290m² trading for 8 hours on a Sunday?
Only retail giants? What about someone who runs one store or a small chain of stores, all of which have a retail area of 290m²? They are restricted too.
Also, there are many, many huge companies that run/trade on a Sunday. Again, not specific to retail, Sunday trading or Sunday trading law.
The whole office point has been said, many, many times. Offcies can open on Saturdays and Sunday if they wish to. There is no law saying they must open Mon-Fri 9-5. Retail, with store over 280m², are the only retailers and indusrry that has restrictions placed upon them by law.
Please answer these two questions:
1. What is the difference between someone working in a store with a retail area of 270m² for 8 hours on a Sunday to someone working in a store with a retail area of 290m²?
2. What is the difference between a shop with a retail area of 270m² trading for 8 hours on a Sunday to a shop with a retail area of 290m² trading for 8 hours on a Sunday?
But you're not getting an answer to that question. People just think that it's ok how it is. It doesn't have any impact on the Sunday Trading Laws, even if we all agreed here that STL's are outdated, it isn't going to change anything.
If it happens and the law is changed fine, but some people just don't see an issue with the current system that works and has worked for years.
Has anybody ever gone hungry because a supermarket wasn't open at 7pm on a Sunday? Has anybody ever been deprived of clothing because Debenhams close after six hours of trading? There isn't really a need to change the STL's because the current system works just fine as it is.
The question originally asked was do you think STL's are outdated. If people have answered the question, that they don't think they are, what's the problem? Just let it go. If they haven't answered in 44 pages, they probably ain't going to now lol
It is part of the 24/7 society though and is relevant.
I'm not answering your questions as I've not brought them into the discussion and have stated (twice) that I think it is inevitable that the Sunday trading laws will be amended.
Has anybody ever gone hungry before McDonald's traded 24/7? No. No one's up in arms about them choosing their own trading hours though.
Did anybody ever feel deprived of tv channels when there was limited tv? No. No one's up in arms about tv broadcasters and companies trading whenever they like on the hundreds of channels now available.
No one cares when other businesses trade except for when it comes to a shop trading on a Sunday with a retail area larger than 280m². It makes no sense.
http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/commons/1994/feb/23/restrictions-on-sunday-opening-of-large
http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/lords/1994/mar/08/sunday-trading-bill
Answer 2:
http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/commons/1994/feb/23/restrictions-on-sunday-opening-of-large
http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/lords/1994/mar/08/sunday-trading-bill
I'm not doing all the hard work that ideally you should be doing to prove your side of the discussion. Your answers are likely within those documents, although I suspect, they'll be answers you won't want to see...
You keep asking questions which have actual, factual answers.
Before the law liberalising Sunday trading was introduced, a number of large companies traded illegally on Sundays because the penalties for doing so were insufficient to act as a deterrent. However, smaller shops could not trade legally on Sundays and could not afford to risk the fines for breaking the law. When the law was changed it included the stipulation relating to the size of shops in order to redress the balance, so that smaller shops would not be driven out of business by larger chains. In doing so it also liberalised opening hours for smaller branches of large chains. This has led to a massive increase in the number of convenience stores but has also enabled some smaller independent shops to survive as the focus has shifted from out-of-town shopping to local stores.
Laws are not abstract concepts, they are regulations which exist for a reason. If the reason they exist ceases to be a valid one then it's likely they will be changed.
edit: I see tghe-retford has now cited documents that answer the questions
Does anybody actually care? Or are they answering a question asked of them on an Internet forum and have just given their opinion on that question.
If people, a majority of people across the country, actually cared and wanted the law changed, somebody would do something about it. As it is, the current system works. You never hear retailers lobbying for a change, you never hear consumers complain that the shops are closed and they simply didn't have the time in the other six days a week they were open.
If the law changed, people aren't going to be upset about it. They have just given an opinion on a forum. No matter how much you continually ask the same questions over and over and over again, that opinion isn't going to change. And unless people actually do something, the law isn't going to either.
And as vocal as Dare Devil is, he isn't either.
You are the one who said abolishing Sunday trading laws would mean there'd be no "work/life balance" no "family time" and all employees would be "taken advantage of". I said that has nothing to do with Sunday trading laws and can be applied to every other business and industry. In reply in posted the same two links you've posted again.
I asked you the what the difference was between someone working/trading in a store of a retail area of 270m² for 8 hours on a Sunday compared to the same with a retail area of 290m². Again, you posted the same links.
Please quote the part of the links that answers the question. I do not have the time to read through such long links. So please answer the question -
1. What is the difference between someone working in a store with a retail area of 270m² for 8 hours on a Sunday to someone working in a store with a retail area of 290m²?
2. What is the difference between a shop with a retail area of 270m² trading for 8 hours on a Sunday to a shop with a retail area of 290m² trading for 8 hours on a Sunday?
The law does restrict smaller chains though as it's perfectly possible for a sole trader or someone to run a small chain of shops all of which have a retail area of 280m² and bigger.
The law only restricts shops with a certain retail area, not retailers of a certain size (e.g. conglomerates).
Retford cares as he is the one insisted on without Sunday trading laws their would be no "work/life balance", "no family time" and "employees would be taken advantage of". None of this is specific to retail, Sunday trading or Sunday trading laws. When asked to prove any of this, he has no comeback. He just posts the same link over and over again.
It hasn't changed due to the majority of people not knowing about the law or not read the law and don't know how unfair the law is against retailers with a store(s) of a certain size in certain locations and against all other businesses and industries.
Abolishing the law just means all retailers have the freedom to trade when they want to - just like every other business and industry and just like some retailers already can. What is wrong with freedom?
Those that favour business freedom, the right to earn money every day, having the ability to buy what they want when they want and the anti-religious.
and
Those that believe there's more to life than consumerism, who want the entire family to be off work for one day every week, the workers who are fed up with feeling pressured by greedy businesses to work every day and random days including Sunday, those who see life as too work-orientated and believe that 7 days a week is harmful and the religious.
I'm female.
Please answer these two questions:
1. What is the difference between someone working in a store with a retail area of 270m² for 8 hours on a Sunday to someone working in a store with a retail area of 290m²?
2. What is the difference between a shop with a retail area of 270m² trading for 8 hours on a Sunday to a shop with a retail area of 290m² trading for 8 hours on a Sunday?
If you can't be bothered to read the links given there no point in further discussions, if you're that concerned about large supermarkets not opening for longer on Sunday petition your MP to raise the point in Parliment it seems that most people are happy with the status quo
The latter of which that is non specific to retail.
If those in the latter category were that bothered, they'd be wanting the Sunday trading law extended to include tv, internet, cinemas, eating establishments, pubs, hotels, public transport, gyms, leisure centres, power stations etc.
If retailers were actually that bother about it they'd be campaigning for the law to change
Or they are happy with the way things work now
Do you want me to change my opinion and agree with yours?
Plenty of people will know that it's legally required for shops to close on Sundays. In fact, I'm sure at least the 10,000 people required on that petition site, probably many many more, will know that. As it stands, only 91 people actually care enough to search for it.
People have to do something about it if they want the law abolished. The retailers need to come out and say they want the law abolished. People have to actually do something. So the people that do know either don't care or can't be bothered to do something about it, meaning it isn't THAT important to them
Supermarkets are not the only retailers!
If the answer is in the link and you and Retford are that confident the answer is in the link. then why not just quote the part that answers the question.
By not answering the question, it's like me asking what's the 21st letter of the alphabet and just posting all 26 letters of the alphabet as the answer.
ok, I'l reprhrase the question:
1. What is, in your opinion, the difference between someone working in a store with a retail area of 270m² for 8 hours on a Sunday to someone working in a store with a retail area of 290m²?
2. What is, in your opinion, the difference between a shop with a retail area of 270m² trading for 8 hours on a Sunday to a shop with a retail area of 290m² trading for 8 hours on a Sunday?