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Should Football Pundits Be Given Basic Grammar Lessons?

JeffersonJefferson Posts: 3,736
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They should shouldn't they? Before being inflicted on the public. Now I don't profess to be any sort of expert myself but I'm talking about the basics here. Using the word "seen" when it's obviously "saw" - as in say, "I seen the game last night". Saying "done" when it should be "did" - as in say, "they done well". Saying "them" when it should be "those". Did Mary Hopkin teach us nothing? Did she die in vain?

Anyway, I'm sure most of you will have got the gist of what I'm saying.

So, do you agree?
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    Zizu58Zizu58 Posts: 3,658
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    Jefferson wrote: »
    They should shouldn't they? Before being inflicted on the public. Now I don't profess to be any sort of expert myself but I'm talking about the basics here. Using the word "seen" when it's obviously "saw" - as in say, "I seen the game last night". Saying "done" when it should be "did" - as in say, "they done well". Saying "them" when it should be "those". Did Mary Hopkin teach us nothing? Did she die in vain.

    Anyway, I'm sure most of you will have got the gist of what I'm saying.

    So, do you agree?

    Interesting take on things but I tend to disagree .... A lot of it is just regional accents and local phrases ... don't they say " he's went for the ball " in the North East ??

    I get more annoyed when I hear intelligent people saying " I FINK this or FINK that " or " I FAWT that he was going to do that " .... Now that drives me bonkers , it's bad enough when numpteys say it but Russell Brand doing it all the time .....just don't get iwhy he does it , surely he knows he's doing it ??
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    bazzaroobazzaroo Posts: 6,848
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    For sure...
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    EraserheadEraserhead Posts: 22,016
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    Unbelievable Jeff.....
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    BarnacleHead12BarnacleHead12 Posts: 289
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    The problem is they'll still be thick. At least when they're ballsing up their grammar, everyone knows they're thick. If they sound quite nicely spoken, more people might actually fall for the s**t they come out with.
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    JeffersonJefferson Posts: 3,736
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    Zizu58 wrote: »
    Interesting take on things but I tend to disagree .... A lot of it is just regional accents and local phrases ... don't they say " he's went for the ball " in the North East ??

    I get more annoyed when I hear intelligent people saying " I FINK this or FINK that " or " I FAWT that he was going to do that " .... Now that drives me bonkers , it's bad enough when numpteys say it but Russell Brand doing it all the time .....just don't get iwhy he does it , surely he knows he's doing it ??

    It's not a regional thing at all. Most of them have a serious problem with their grammar. Gary Lineker is the most notable exception.
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    Tess-gTess-g Posts: 29,054
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    Mary Hopkin is dead! :o

    Aren't most football pundits ex-players who may have spent more time kicking a ball around than attending lessons when they were young?
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    ElanorElanor Posts: 13,326
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    They are given them. At school, the same as everyone else.
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    Zizu58Zizu58 Posts: 3,658
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    Jefferson wrote: »
    It's not a regional thing at all. Most of them have a serious problem with their grammar. Gary Lineker is the most notable exception.

    I said " a lot of it " not " all of it ". ...
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    Mark FMark F Posts: 54,290
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    I wouldn't expect too much in terms of perfect grammar from ex footballers or sports people in general really..

    People would just say they are well media trained if they came across as word perfect.

    Wish they didn't speak in clichés so often though.
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    Dr. ClawDr. Claw Posts: 7,375
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    yes if they can be good at their previous jobs as footballers at least make an effort to do a good job in your current position
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    gemma-the-huskygemma-the-husky Posts: 18,116
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    Them pundits, eh.

    Worra laugh. :)
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    swingalegswingaleg Posts: 103,175
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    You wonder if they have went to school........
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    JeffersonJefferson Posts: 3,736
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    Elanor wrote: »
    They are given them. At school, the same as everyone else.

    I doubt they have been given grammar lessons. But football scholars at academies should be - to make up for lost time.
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    bspacebspace Posts: 14,303
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    sick as a parrot me
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    JeffersonJefferson Posts: 3,736
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    Mark F wrote: »
    I wouldn't expect too much in terms of perfect grammar from ex footballers or sports people in general really..

    People would just say they are well media trained if they came across as word perfect.

    Wish they didn't speak in clichés so often though.

    As I explained in my o/p I don't expect "perfect grammar". I'm just talking about the very basics as one might expect from an eight year old.
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    highking1014highking1014 Posts: 1,189
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7EYe42Lln4

    Irish sport has proper pundits, the fellow in his rant is a barrister so his grammar is better than some
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    Chris FrostChris Frost Posts: 11,022
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    What! And alienate millions of knuckle draggers?
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    Andy2Andy2 Posts: 11,951
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    'You's'. My wife heard a teacher use it to her class the other day.
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    TheTruth1983TheTruth1983 Posts: 13,462
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    Isn't that what school is for?

    I would support lessons on how to avoid cliches in their commentary.
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    jeffiner1892jeffiner1892 Posts: 14,365
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7EYe42Lln4

    Irish sport has proper pundits, the fellow in his rant is a barrister so his grammar is better than some

    I'd rather poor grammar than listen to the shite that prick comes out with.
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    JeffersonJefferson Posts: 3,736
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    Isn't that what school is for?

    Sadly all the football pundits have left school some time ago.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 68
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    Sounds like YOU are the one that needs lessons in basic English.

    There's no such thing as 'correct' grammar, there's no 'should be...' - there's only standard and non-standard. People speak using local dialects, most dialects use non-standard English, therefore pundits use non-standard grammar when speaking.
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    CravenHavenCravenHaven Posts: 13,953
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    well, on the end of the day a bird in the hand is worth a chicken and egg and it ain't over till the fat lady cockledoodledoos
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    highking1014highking1014 Posts: 1,189
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    I'd rather poor grammar than listen to the shite that prick comes out with.

    you shouldn't speak about Joe like that
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    JeffersonJefferson Posts: 3,736
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    Sounds like YOU are the one that needs lessons in basic English.

    There's no such thing as 'correct' grammar, there's no 'should be...' - there's only standard and non-standard. People speak using local dialects, most dialects use non-standard English, therefore pundits use non-standard grammar when speaking.

    No such thing as correct grammar, eh. :D

    I wonder if you'd be happy for your children to talk like Paul Merson?

    Of course you wouldn't.
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