Sarah has done loads of interviews over the last 2 days to promote the whistleblower fund and asking people to donate. They have had $24,643 USD donated so far.
What will they do with the money if the plane isn't found?
Don't know as I actually haven't seen any of her interviews (working now so haven't had much time for trawling the news channels), It just keeps coming up on the news feed on Face Ache!
Edit: I'm just being lazy now as I thought one of you guys would know the answer!
Sorry ... on second reading my question came across as a bit "demanding"!
I did actually think the same thing when I heard about it last week, and I also wondered what would happen to the donations if they didn't manage to reach their goal. I believe they want $3 million (£1.8m) as a reward for information and $2 million (£1.1m) to pay for private investigators.
I'm not actually following that aspect of the story (and I'm not on Face Ache!) so it's just what I've picked up from general searches of MH370 news headlines.
Good question. I was actually wondering that today. I really don't think they are going to raise anywhere near their target of $5 million though, so what will they do with the money they do manage to raise then?
Good question. I was actually wondering that today. I really don't think they are going to raise anywhere near their target of $5 million though, so what will they do with the money they do manage to raise then?
I've just had a look in indiegogo and found this.
What If We Do Not Reach Our Goal?
If we do not reach our goal of $5,000,000, the reward and private investigation efforts will be reduced accordingly.
What If We Exceed Our Goal?
First, we celebrate the awesome power of good people doing the right thing! Second, we increase the amount of the reward, and expand the private investigation services. Imagine how much more we could accomplish with $10,000,000!!!
I don't think they will exceed their goal - the current total is $24,753.
Ooooh - how interesting. The reward fund has been set up by 7 people, 5 family members and 2 specialists in fundraising and private investigation. The PI specialist is called Ethan Hunt.
Wasn't that Tom Cruises name in the Mission Impossible movies?:o
What If We Do Not Reach Our Goal?
If we do not reach our goal of $5,000,000, the reward and private investigation efforts will be reduced accordingly.
What If We Exceed Our Goal?
First, we celebrate the awesome power of good people doing the right thing! Second, we increase the amount of the reward, and expand the private investigation services. Imagine how much more we could accomplish with $10,000,000!!!
I don't think they will exceed their goal - the current total is $24,753.
Thanks for this Soo.
Maybe it's just me being a cynic but something about this just doesn't sit right with me.
This is marketed as being Sarah Bajc & some family members but all I'm seeing from the wording & my gut feeling is Bajc & something just feels very 'off' about it to me.
Ooooh - how interesting. The reward fund has been set up by 7 people, 5 family members and 2 specialists in fundraising and private investigation. The PI specialist is called Ethan Hunt.
Wasn't that Tom Cruises name in the Mission Impossible movies?:o
Yes it was...see, something just feels odd about it all imo
Ooooh - how interesting. The reward fund has been set up by 7 people, 5 family members and 2 specialists in fundraising and private investigation. The PI specialist is called Ethan Hunt.
Please tell me they don't have a lawyer called Daniel Kaffee (Cruise's character in "A Few Good Men")
Funny you should say that Cough, one of the family members is a lawyer but sadly not named after a Tom character. For a minute there I thought we were going to be able to start a whole new CT!
Peter Weeks, a New Zealand litigation attorney, whose brother Paul was on his way to Mongolia for work, says “Someone somewhere knows the truth, they could be your neighbor, work colleague, brother, sister, mother or father. No matter who they are we need their help to solve this mystery, make the skies safe for everyone and return the passengers and crew to their families.”
Just remembered - he's the brother of the guy who left his watch and rings with his wife 'just in case something happened to him and he never came home". A bit odd don't you think?
The latest information and analysis confirms that MH370 will be found in close proximity to the arc set out in the map and labelled as the 7th arc. At the time MH370 reached this arc, the aircraft is considered to have exhausted its fuel and to have been descending. As a result, the aircraft is unlikely to be more than 20 NM (38 km) to the west or 30 NM (55 km) to the east of the arc.
Based on all the independent analysis of satellite communications and aircraft performance, the total extent of the 7th arc reaches from latitude 20 degrees S to 39 degrees S.
Refinement of the analysis in the coming weeks will reduce the underwater Search Area along this arc to a prioritised 17,500 sq. NM (60,000 sq. km). The prioritised length of the Search Area along the arc is expected to be 350 NM (650 km).
They seem now to be pretty sure of their calculations and theory and I have to say that the 7th arc theory looks like by far the most likely scenario. I find all the conspiracy and whistleblower nonsense to be distractingly tiresome as the the only definitive evidence points to the plane being found eventually somewhere under the 7th arc.
OK all you clever peeps, I know it's only the Daily Fail but have a read and tell me what you think.
Investigation under way after 13 planes mysteriously vanish from radars in Europe for 25 MINUTES in 'unprecedented' incident
The incidents on June 5 and 12 saw flight data disappear
A total of 13 planes suddenly vanished from radars on two occasions
Happened over Austria - neighbouring countries also reported blackouts
It is believed some of the planes were long-haul flights carrying passengers
Air traffic control was carried out 'blind' - by voice - during outage
Why has Malaysia not actually declared the plane lost yet?
Flight MH370: Families of missing passengers to get £30,000 compensation
Seven families have received money so far and insurers are looking into 40 more claims
The families of missing flight MH370 passengers have started receiving compensation payments of £30,000.
Six Malaysian families and one Chinese family have received the money so far.
Insurers are looking into 40 more claims from Chinese families.
Flight MH370 went missing on 8 March as it flew from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing.
A huge international effort has failed to find any trace of the aircraft, despite extensive air and sea surface searches, and the use of unmanned drones to scour the Indian Ocean seabed - where Malaysian authorities believed the plane could have crashed. Malaysian deputy foreign minister Hamzah Zainudin insisted that the government has not yet declared the plane lost.
Relatives of all 239 missing passengers can claim up to £100,000 each.
"When we talk about the full payment, we have to wait until we announce the issue on the tragedy MH370 is over," he said.
Malaysia Airlines' insurer, a consortium led by Germany's Allianz, is making the payments.
Last month, those in charge of the search admitted that the missing plane was not in the Indian Ocean search area where acoustic "ping" signals were heard, with Australia's transport authority saying that search zone had now been "discounted as the final resting place of MH370”.
Then it was revealed underwater listening devices picked up a "dull oomph" 10 minutes after the jet lost radio contact on March 8, which could have been the plane crashing into the sea.
If this was the case, search crews have been looking in the wrong area.
With conspiracy theories continuing to circulate , no wreckage from the plane has ever been found.
OK all you clever peeps, I know it's only the Daily Fail but have a read and tell me what you think.
Investigation under way after 13 planes mysteriously vanish from radars in Europe for 25 MINUTES in 'unprecedented' incident
The incidents on June 5 and 12 saw flight data disappear
A total of 13 planes suddenly vanished from radars on two occasions
Happened over Austria - neighbouring countries also reported blackouts
It is believed some of the planes were long-haul flights carrying passengers
Air traffic control was carried out 'blind' - by voice - during outage
It has been reported by other media outlets, and the speculation is that the first "glitch" may have been linked to a military exercise in Hungary. Only aircraft at high altitudes were affected.
The "Daily Fail" is (surprise, surprise) trying to make some sort of a link to MH370 by claiming it "echos the circumstances" of that flight ... but I'd have to say that's pushing it somewhat! When MH370 disappeared, there was not a temporary blackout of the secondary radar system. One aircraft was affected, and there was no voice communication with it.
Why has Malaysia not actually declared the plane lost yet?
It's probably a legal thing.
I seem to recall that Steve Fossett wasn't legally declared dead until almost 6 months after he went missing, and his wife had to file a petition with the court in order to complete the legal process. That, of course, came under US law, but I imagine it's the same elsewhere.
If it's the "Daily Fail", why quote from it? Do you not see the irony within?
The poster wasn't quoting it as a statement of fact. They linked to a story in the media which suggested some connection with MH370 and asked what people thought of it.
People link to all sorts of sources in a discussion forum. There's no irony.
Not sure if this has been mentioned previously in the thread, but Tuesday on BBC2 at 9pm should be interesting, Horizon are investigating the story so far. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b047czkj
Where is Flight MH370?
Duration: 1 hour
Horizon tells the inside story of the search for Malaysia Airlines flight MH370. With access to the key players on the frontline in the southern Indian Ocean and the British satellite engineers who tracked the plane's final hours, Horizon breaks open the biggest mystery in aviation history.
The film reveals how MH370 disappeared in a radar blind spot; what investigators believe happened to the aircraft in its last minutes; and how the area in which it could be found is still to be searched.
Plus Horizon examines the new technologies, like black box streaming and enhanced air traffic surveillance, that mean an airliner should never vanish without trace again.
Not sure if this has been mentioned previously in the thread, but Tuesday on BBC2 at 9pm should be interesting, Horizon are investigating the story so far. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b047czkj
Thanks, I'll record this as I notice it's on at the same time as Brazil v Mexico and I'll be outvoted in a house full of men!
I doubt there will be as much information as there is on here but it will be interesting nevertheless.
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Good question. I was actually wondering that today. I really don't think they are going to raise anywhere near their target of $5 million though, so what will they do with the money they do manage to raise then?
I've just had a look in indiegogo and found this.
What If We Do Not Reach Our Goal?
If we do not reach our goal of $5,000,000, the reward and private investigation efforts will be reduced accordingly.
What If We Exceed Our Goal?
First, we celebrate the awesome power of good people doing the right thing! Second, we increase the amount of the reward, and expand the private investigation services. Imagine how much more we could accomplish with $10,000,000!!!
I don't think they will exceed their goal - the current total is $24,753.
Wasn't that Tom Cruises name in the Mission Impossible movies?:o
Thanks for this Soo.
Maybe it's just me being a cynic but something about this just doesn't sit right with me.
This is marketed as being Sarah Bajc & some family members but all I'm seeing from the wording & my gut feeling is Bajc & something just feels very 'off' about it to me.
Yes it was...see, something just feels odd about it all imo
Thanks for the info Soo.
Please tell me they don't have a lawyer called Daniel Kaffee (Cruise's character in "A Few Good Men")
Funny you should say that Cough, one of the family members is a lawyer but sadly not named after a Tom character. For a minute there I thought we were going to be able to start a whole new CT!
Peter Weeks, a New Zealand litigation attorney, whose brother Paul was on his way to Mongolia for work, says “Someone somewhere knows the truth, they could be your neighbor, work colleague, brother, sister, mother or father. No matter who they are we need their help to solve this mystery, make the skies safe for everyone and return the passengers and crew to their families.”
Just remembered - he's the brother of the guy who left his watch and rings with his wife 'just in case something happened to him and he never came home". A bit odd don't you think?
http://www.jacc.gov.au/media/releases/2014/june/mr050.aspx
Thank you. So MV Fugro Equator and Zhu Kezhen jointly will conduct the ocean bed mapping.
I was interested in the link from there to the ATSB website, in particular the "7th arc" page, with map and explanation http://www.atsb.gov.au/mh370/search-area-map.aspx and I quote from it:
They seem now to be pretty sure of their calculations and theory and I have to say that the 7th arc theory looks like by far the most likely scenario. I find all the conspiracy and whistleblower nonsense to be distractingly tiresome as the the only definitive evidence points to the plane being found eventually somewhere under the 7th arc.
OK all you clever peeps, I know it's only the Daily Fail but have a read and tell me what you think.
Investigation under way after 13 planes mysteriously vanish from radars in Europe for 25 MINUTES in 'unprecedented' incident
The incidents on June 5 and 12 saw flight data disappear
A total of 13 planes suddenly vanished from radars on two occasions
Happened over Austria - neighbouring countries also reported blackouts
It is believed some of the planes were long-haul flights carrying passengers
Air traffic control was carried out 'blind' - by voice - during outage
Why has Malaysia not actually declared the plane lost yet?
Flight MH370: Families of missing passengers to get £30,000 compensation
Seven families have received money so far and insurers are looking into 40 more claims
The families of missing flight MH370 passengers have started receiving compensation payments of £30,000.
Six Malaysian families and one Chinese family have received the money so far.
Insurers are looking into 40 more claims from Chinese families.
Flight MH370 went missing on 8 March as it flew from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing.
A huge international effort has failed to find any trace of the aircraft, despite extensive air and sea surface searches, and the use of unmanned drones to scour the Indian Ocean seabed - where Malaysian authorities believed the plane could have crashed.
Malaysian deputy foreign minister Hamzah Zainudin insisted that the government has not yet declared the plane lost.
Relatives of all 239 missing passengers can claim up to £100,000 each.
"When we talk about the full payment, we have to wait until we announce the issue on the tragedy MH370 is over," he said.
Malaysia Airlines' insurer, a consortium led by Germany's Allianz, is making the payments.
Last month, those in charge of the search admitted that the missing plane was not in the Indian Ocean search area where acoustic "ping" signals were heard, with Australia's transport authority saying that search zone had now been "discounted as the final resting place of MH370”.
Then it was revealed underwater listening devices picked up a "dull oomph" 10 minutes after the jet lost radio contact on March 8, which could have been the plane crashing into the sea.
If this was the case, search crews have been looking in the wrong area.
With conspiracy theories continuing to circulate , no wreckage from the plane has ever been found.
It has been reported by other media outlets, and the speculation is that the first "glitch" may have been linked to a military exercise in Hungary. Only aircraft at high altitudes were affected.
The "Daily Fail" is (surprise, surprise) trying to make some sort of a link to MH370 by claiming it "echos the circumstances" of that flight ... but I'd have to say that's pushing it somewhat! When MH370 disappeared, there was not a temporary blackout of the secondary radar system. One aircraft was affected, and there was no voice communication with it.
It's probably a legal thing.
I seem to recall that Steve Fossett wasn't legally declared dead until almost 6 months after he went missing, and his wife had to file a petition with the court in order to complete the legal process. That, of course, came under US law, but I imagine it's the same elsewhere.
And yet the Malaysians have the cheek to announce that they and Australia will share the cost of the next phase, yeh right.
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/australia-tight-lipped-mh370-jet-search-funding-24120532?utm_content=bufferaf722&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitt
edit; well Princess hasn't been in for a while asking why it's not been found.
Please don't tempt fate
The poster wasn't quoting it as a statement of fact. They linked to a story in the media which suggested some connection with MH370 and asked what people thought of it.
People link to all sorts of sources in a discussion forum. There's no irony.
Thanks, I'll record this as I notice it's on at the same time as Brazil v Mexico and I'll be outvoted in a house full of men!
I doubt there will be as much information as there is on here but it will be interesting nevertheless.
They may even find it!