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Disappointed With Jale
Dangermoose
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Just can't help feeling disappointed with her over "shout over the wall-gate" 
I don't get why it had to be such a big issue for her. Christopher managed to let it wash over him with no drama yet Jale felt she was being held hostage. Bit of an overreaction imo.
Don't get why she felt the need revealing this was a decision at all, never mind such a major one.
Has she really gone grass just to gain favour with those who have it in for her in the house?
If I'd been her I'd have found it hilarious knowing what I know while the rest of them continue to drive themselves potty with their speculation. And anyway, isn't Chris more of an ally in there to her than the other HM's? Why do that to him?
She's taken the whole thing far too seriously imo.
Bad move Jale .... bad move
I don't get why it had to be such a big issue for her. Christopher managed to let it wash over him with no drama yet Jale felt she was being held hostage. Bit of an overreaction imo.
Don't get why she felt the need revealing this was a decision at all, never mind such a major one.
Has she really gone grass just to gain favour with those who have it in for her in the house?
If I'd been her I'd have found it hilarious knowing what I know while the rest of them continue to drive themselves potty with their speculation. And anyway, isn't Chris more of an ally in there to her than the other HM's? Why do that to him?
She's taken the whole thing far too seriously imo.
Bad move Jale .... bad move
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Get her out on Friday please.
Pauline worked her out. She was right dare I say it.
Jale wants to be a victim by pushing away those who try and help.
Also when she told Winston to go inside. She wanted to be shown to be alone.
She is definitely playing the victim.
She never says anything to those who already hate herbecause she likes it that way.
And now the whole Christopher thing.
I agree Chris didn't help himself. I think the whole thing really threw him and he totally panicked (slight understatement
What? before Pauline?? never.
I still think Pauline will take a lot of beating
I have to clarify .... I don't think Jale warrants all the hatred which has erupted on the forum. I just remain disappointed and question her motives.
Can you imagine?
Pauline : I told you!! The public SAW how she made me make her a victim!!!
I wouldn't trust her with any thing any more. Another crossed off my favs list.
Hatred, I don't think so, she has been heralded a saint on here until last night.
Both of them would remain nominated so as not to tip off the others, but the public would not be able to vote for them.
Pretty easy fix really.
BB producers need to think on their feet, but they'd probably rather have the screaming fits and arguments that would occur if the PH is unmasked, than protect him.
I will take that challenge YNM.:p If I can cut and paste from another thread. I can't be arsed to write it all again!
Oh and for the record I am not a game player denier. I have no issue with game playing anyway.. But I do empathise with the position she was in last week having once been in it. So I am sympathetic to her but not to the extent of cannonisation.
Acceptance from the "in" crowd perhaps? ;-)
I have been thinking about her describing herself as a hostage and wondering where that came from.
I wonder if she felt having come upon a piece of information (call over the wall) and believing it to be true she is caught between a rock and a hard place. Perhaps she means she is held hostage by having a piece of information that whatever she does will condemn her in somebodies eyes.
On the one hand she is being asked by Ashleigh and Danielle who she thinks the PHM is. Now she has knowledge or so she thinks, she has to lie to them. Maybe in her eyes not mentioning the information is akin to lying (I have to say I think there is a difference in withholding the truth and lying although where the line falls, depends on the exact circumstances).
On the other hand she has Chris. To say what she heard is likely to have negative repercussions for him.
So it could be that in her head the choice she has is: does she grass or does she lie? This might be why she feels a hostage. Each of the two options facing her are poor.
Perhaps given that she is faced with a choice between two lousy options. One is to tell on the guy who has been pleasant to her but hasn't exactly backed her to the hilt. Or the other is to say nothing, withhold or deceive to the two girls with whom she has some sort of fragile alliance.
Perhaps she felt the loyalty to not lie to her would be friends (possibly with a view to tightening that friendship) was stronger than the loyalty to protect Chris's back.
It was a no win from a social point of view. Personally I think, from a game playing point of view, the other option would have been tactically sounder. But in a lonely position and in desperate need of friends I am not sure I would have done differently.
That's what I think. When the speculating started again I'd have said I thought it was Chris with a cheeky wink ;-)
But they don't pick the HM's for their humour and light heartedness do they!
Me too sadly, I think she just cost herself any chance of being in the final, silly girl.
I don't think that Jale is a saint at all. I have felt sorry for her for being ostracised and for how awful and nasty Pauline, Helen and Toya have been towards her but I have never been a fan of hers and the same goes for Daniel too. You can feel empathy for someone but it doesn't mean you have to like that person.
I don't think that Jale has done herself any favours with the way she has been with Chris, he has been one of her few friends in the house or at least been there to chat to her when nobody else would. For her now to be saying she is being held hostage and she does not intend to lie is really quite ridiculous. She is being totally OTT with Chris and it seems showing her true colours now.
But Pauline still has to go Friday!!!
But don't the whole house hear when BB announces them to go back in the house? if they did which is very likely they would've realized its something to do with outside contact and about PH. Its all they are concerned about at the moment.
There are a load of stuff we don't see obviously so its really hard for us to judge the chain of events that led to Jale changing her mind.
No Pauline will definitely be gone Friday unless there is intervention from BB.
I was referring to since last night ;-)