Here is something I have been wondering about for some time. Immediately after a player wins a match on the ATP or WTA circuit is it mandatory to minister to the crowd or is it voluntary?
He's always been in scrappy 5-setters in week one though
Last year was a laughable performance, yes, but he was unlucky in 2012 to come against Rosol who played like Soderling on steroids
I can't see Nadal being overly pushed really this fortnight, he'll be mentally and physically struggling after the French (is the back an issue?) and has to defend a load on HC's later in year.
Think next year is his time to strike, the extra week off will be very beneficial for him
I think that was mostly in 2010 Wimbledon though he had 2 five setters in the early rounds. I can't remember about the early rounds of 2008 much
[QUOTE=attackmusic;73262599]I find it hysterical that Nadal fans think this is what a tough draw looks like. Karlovic is way past his best, Raonic hasn't beaten Nadal yet, Gasquet is injured and hasn't beaten Nadal since they were in the juniors, Monfils is Monfils, and the rest are lower ranked players like Rosol who really shouldn't be a worry!
Maybe because he got beaten last year and the year before they are trying to talk it up. Anyone who isn't a hardcore Nadal fan seems to (rightly) think his draw isn't tough at all. I am a Roger fan but I'm not gonna say his draw is tougher than it is incase he loses early.
I would love to see a repeat of the 2012 final or a Novak vs Roger final. Sadly I think we might get a Murray vs Nadal match in which case Murray will bend over as usual. The way he talks about Nadal is wrong, he is too much of a fanboy [/QUOTE]
For me I am worried because of what happened for the last two years, Rafa looks uncomfortable on the grass to me now Wimbledon was my favorite slam but not anymore, I don't expect Rafa to make the final at all.
If Rosol had beaten Novak 2 years ago and he had him in his draw again wouldn't you be worried?
Dom the Bomb Inglot has won the Eastbourne doubles with his partner Treat Huey.:D
Prior to this his number one claim to fame was winning Wimbledon – he was Paul Bettany’s tennis body double in that movie where plucky Brit comes from nowhere to win the title.
In her matches Serena Williams crosses the net on the side opposite the umpire chair after the first game of each set. What would be her reaction if her opponent did the same thing?
I'm not doubting you, but I don't know enough for it to be obvious to me. Could you say a bit more about it?
It's a running joke in here. Lisicki has beat the reigning FO champion in her last 4 Wimbledon appearances. Sharapova is reigning FO champion and ergo destiny dictates Lisicki beats her which would be in the SF.
It's a running joke in here. Lisicki has beat the reigning FO champion in her last 4 Wimbledon appearances. Sharapova is reigning FO champion and ergo destiny dictates Lisicki beats her which would be in the SF.
I find it hysterical that Nadal fans think this is what a tough draw looks like. Karlovic is way past his best, Raonic hasn't beaten Nadal yet, Gasquet is injured and hasn't beaten Nadal since they were in the juniors, Monfils is Monfils, and the rest are lower ranked players like Rosol who really shouldn't be a worry!
Maybe because he got beaten last year and the year before they are trying to talk it up. Anyone who isn't a hardcore Nadal fan seems to (rightly) think his draw isn't tough at all.
To be fair there are few posters in this thread who aren't Nadal fans and still think his draw is bad. For myself it's not the draw I would have asked for but it may not pan out and Rafa may not get far enough to meet dangerous (for him) players. I never worry to much about draws, it is what it is, and he'll have to make the most of it.
A bit of a side note, i'm suprised Vika is playing Wimbledon, on grass you have to be sure of your movement, so unless she is 100% fit, it may not be a good idea to return on grass. Especially for her as it's not her best surface and she had a horrible fall here last year. I would have thought waiting for the hard court swing would have been better. Maybe i'm being negative here? She knows how she feels so I hope she can get a few matches.
To be fair there are few posters in this thread who aren't Nadal fans and still think his draw is bad. For myself it's not the draw I would have asked for but it may not pan out and Rafa may not get far enough to meet dangerous (for him) players. I never worry to much about draws, it is what it is, and he'll have to make the most of it.
A bit of a side note, i'm suprised Vika is playing Wimbledon, on grass you have to be sure of your movement, so unless she is 100% fit, it may not be a good idea to return on grass. Especially for her as it's not her best surface and she had a horrible fall here last year. I would have thought waiting for the hard court swing would have been better. Maybe i'm being negative here? She knows how she feels so I hope she can get a few matches.
She moved ok on Monday but I was was surprised like you that she decided to return on grass after last years nasty slip, which I think started her whole injury problems.
She moved ok on Monday but I was was surprised like you that she decided to return on grass after last years nasty slip, which I think started her whole injury problems.
Well with the better weather, the conditions shouldn't b e the same as last year, which were appalling IMHO.
She seemed to, ahem, be enjoying the WTA party last night, so I'm not sure how seriously she's taking it. As I said before I think it's all about getting fitness, ranking points for the Hard-court season, she doesn't want to slip too far down the seedings.
Well with the better weather, the conditions shouldn't b e the same as last year, which were appalling IMHO.
She seemed to, ahem, be enjoying the WTA party last night, so I'm not sure how seriously she's taking it. As I said before I think it's all about getting fitness, ranking points for the Hard-court season, she doesn't want to slip too far down the seedings.
Or a slip too far on the grass like last year. I thought she was going to be carried off on a stretcher last year the way she screamed when she slipped and did the splits.
If she isn't sure of her fitness, she can take things easy and play comfortably within her ability. That could get her through a few rounds, and geared up for the rest of the year.
If she isn't sure of her fitness, she can take things easy and play comfortably within her ability. That could get her through a few rounds, and geared up for the rest of the year.
You can't take it easy in a slam these days. I don't think she knows the meaning of the word anyway.
If she loses early, it's no worse than not bothering at all.
And easy is relative. Top players take it easy in non-slams all of the time.
The fact is, she doesn't just need ranking points, she needs to get back into the swing of being in tournaments. It's up to her how seriously she takes Wimbledon.
Top players wouldn't be top players if they spent their time worrying about injuries.
He sure does, I was hoping he would get a few tossers in the first rounds so I am mega fed up, the Rafa Fans site is calling it a nightmare draw and the comments underneath say only a miracle will get Rafa through this, looks like Wimbledon can go to hell again for me this year, I actually tweeted them last year and told them to f**k off.
Are you being serious? I'm a big Rafa fan, but calling his potential opponents 'tossers'?! And did you really tweet Wimbledon and tell them to f**k off? I'm sure Rafa can look after himself, and if he can't handle any opponent put in front of him, he doesn't deserve his ranking !
As I think Mike TV has said, nightmare draws tend to open up anyway as players get knocked out/withdraw, we just have to hope Rafa isn't one of those opening the draw up for others by an early departure!
If she loses early, it's no worse than not bothering at all.
And easy is relative. Top players take it easy in non-slams all of the time.
The fact is, she doesn't just need ranking points, she needs to get back into the swing of being in tournaments. It's up to her how seriously she takes Wimbledon.
Top players wouldn't be top players if they spent their time worrying about injuries.
Yeah I suppose this is true, I was just suprised at her decision. Maybe she wants to get it over and done with after she fell last year, if she's nervous and leaves it maybe it will seem like a bigger deal next year.
Knowbody expects her to go deep so there is the lack of pressure this time.
Are you being serious? I'm a big Rafa fan, but calling his potential opponents 'tossers'?! And did you really tweet Wimbledon and tell them to f**k off? I'm sure Rafa can look after himself, and if he can't handle any opponent put in front of him, he doesn't deserve his ranking !
As I think Mike TV has said, nightmare draws tend to open up anyway as players get knocked out/withdraw, we just have to hope Rafa isn't one of those opening the draw up for others by an early departure!
Just watched the WTA pre Wimbledon party arrivals on YT. Ana looked stunning as well as Genie. Sloane was wearing the same dress as the interviewer. Awkward. JJ looked like a tranny and Venus hair was Serenas trench coat was beautiful. Domi looked sexy as hell.
Are you being serious? I'm a big Rafa fan, but calling his potential opponents 'tossers'?! And did you really tweet Wimbledon and tell them to f**k off? I'm sure Rafa can look after himself, and if he can't handle any opponent put in front of him, he doesn't deserve his ranking !
As I think Mike TV has said, nightmare draws tend to open up anyway as players get knocked out/withdraw, we just have to hope Rafa isn't one of those opening the draw up for others by an early departure!
I would never go that far as to say there is some conspiracy against Rafa at Wimbledon but it is a horrible draw. Draws open up but at the minute for anyone to suggest he doesn't have a difficult draw is ridiculous. He does. As you say let's hope the draw opens up and he's not one of those making it open up. Even people who don't like Rafa have said his draw is difficult, bar one poster, on here. Djok has Gulbis, Murray has Dimitrov yes but Rafa has Gasquet, Nisikori, Rosol, Stan, Monfils to name a few. Not all of them may make it or even cause Rafa problems but some of them will and us Rafa fans are being cautious based on the last 2 years at Wimbledon. That's understandable and a tricky draw makes that tripedation all the worse IMO.
Just watched the WTA pre Wimbledon party arrivals on YT. Ana looked stunning as well as Genie. Sloane was wearing the same dress as the interviewer. Awkward. JJ looked like a tranny and Venus hair was Serenas trench coat was beautiful. Domi looked sexy as hell.
JJ looked like an extra from The Addams Family! Vika was clearly trashed before she even made her way to the event.
Just watched the WTA pre Wimbledon party arrivals on YT. Ana looked stunning as well as Genie. Sloane was wearing the same dress as the interviewer. Awkward. JJ looked like a tranny and Venus hair was Serenas trench coat was beautiful. Domi looked sexy as hell.
I would never go that far as to say there is some conspiracy against Rafa at Wimbledon but it is a horrible draw. Draws open up but at the minute for anyone to suggest he doesn't have a difficult draw is ridiculous. He does. As you say let's hope the draw opens up and he's not one of those making it open up. Even people who don't like Rafa have said his draw is difficult, bar one poster, on here. Djok has Gulbis, Murray has Dimitrov yes but Rafa has Gasquet, Nisikori, Rosol, Stan, Monfils to name a few. Not all of them may make it or even cause Rafa problems but some of them will and us Rafa fans are being cautious based on the last 2 years at Wimbledon. That's understandable and a tricky draw makes that tripedation all the worse IMO.
I don't disagree, but to suggest he should only play 'tossers' in the early rounds and to tweet abuse to Wimbledon seems extreme and a bit of an embarrassment to fellow Rafa fans! I'd prefer an easier draw of course and might even have a moan about it but there are levels, he's Spain's most famous and successful ever sportsperson, who's spent many weeks at number one and earned many, many millions, not some precious little flower!!
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I'm not doubting you, but I don't know enough for it to be obvious to me. Could you say a bit more about it?
I think that was mostly in 2010 Wimbledon though he had 2 five setters in the early rounds. I can't remember about the early rounds of 2008 much
[QUOTE=attackmusic;73262599]I find it hysterical that Nadal fans think this is what a tough draw looks like. Karlovic is way past his best, Raonic hasn't beaten Nadal yet, Gasquet is injured and hasn't beaten Nadal since they were in the juniors, Monfils is Monfils, and the rest are lower ranked players like Rosol who really shouldn't be a worry!
Maybe because he got beaten last year and the year before they are trying to talk it up. Anyone who isn't a hardcore Nadal fan seems to (rightly) think his draw isn't tough at all. I am a Roger fan but I'm not gonna say his draw is tougher than it is incase he loses early.
I would love to see a repeat of the 2012 final or a Novak vs Roger final. Sadly I think we might get a Murray vs Nadal match in which case Murray will bend over as usual. The way he talks about Nadal is wrong, he is too much of a fanboy
For me I am worried because of what happened for the last two years, Rafa looks uncomfortable on the grass to me now
If Rosol had beaten Novak 2 years ago and he had him in his draw again wouldn't you be worried?
Dom the Bomb Inglot has won the Eastbourne doubles with his partner Treat Huey.:D
Prior to this his number one claim to fame was winning Wimbledon – he was Paul Bettany’s tennis body double in that movie where plucky Brit comes from nowhere to win the title.
It's a running joke in here. Lisicki has beat the reigning FO champion in her last 4 Wimbledon appearances. Sharapova is reigning FO champion and ergo destiny dictates Lisicki beats her which would be in the SF.
Lisicki = Wimbledon finalist. Book it :kitty:
Lisicki's Law of Wimbledon
To be fair there are few posters in this thread who aren't Nadal fans and still think his draw is bad. For myself it's not the draw I would have asked for but it may not pan out and Rafa may not get far enough to meet dangerous (for him) players. I never worry to much about draws, it is what it is, and he'll have to make the most of it.
A bit of a side note, i'm suprised Vika is playing Wimbledon, on grass you have to be sure of your movement, so unless she is 100% fit, it may not be a good idea to return on grass. Especially for her as it's not her best surface and she had a horrible fall here last year. I would have thought waiting for the hard court swing would have been better. Maybe i'm being negative here? She knows how she feels so I hope she can get a few matches.
She moved ok on Monday but I was was surprised like you that she decided to return on grass after last years nasty slip, which I think started her whole injury problems.
Gulbis & Tsonga are in the Djokovic quarter. Nishikori is in the Nadal quarter.
OK thanks.
Well with the better weather, the conditions shouldn't b e the same as last year, which were appalling IMHO.
She seemed to, ahem, be enjoying the WTA party last night, so I'm not sure how seriously she's taking it. As I said before I think it's all about getting fitness, ranking points for the Hard-court season, she doesn't want to slip too far down the seedings.
Or a slip too far on the grass like last year. I thought she was going to be carried off on a stretcher last year the way she screamed when she slipped and did the splits.
If she isn't sure of her fitness, she can take things easy and play comfortably within her ability. That could get her through a few rounds, and geared up for the rest of the year.
You can't take it easy in a slam these days. I don't think she knows the meaning of the word anyway.
And easy is relative. Top players take it easy in non-slams all of the time.
The fact is, she doesn't just need ranking points, she needs to get back into the swing of being in tournaments. It's up to her how seriously she takes Wimbledon.
Top players wouldn't be top players if they spent their time worrying about injuries.
Are you being serious?
As I think Mike TV has said, nightmare draws tend to open up anyway as players get knocked out/withdraw, we just have to hope Rafa isn't one of those opening the draw up for others by an early departure!
Yeah I suppose this is true, I was just suprised at her decision. Maybe she wants to get it over and done with after she fell last year, if she's nervous and leaves it maybe it will seem like a bigger deal next year.
Knowbody expects her to go deep so there is the lack of pressure this time.
That kind of behaviour from fans is scary
I would never go that far as to say there is some conspiracy against Rafa at Wimbledon but it is a horrible draw. Draws open up but at the minute for anyone to suggest he doesn't have a difficult draw is ridiculous. He does. As you say let's hope the draw opens up and he's not one of those making it open up. Even people who don't like Rafa have said his draw is difficult, bar one poster, on here. Djok has Gulbis, Murray has Dimitrov yes but Rafa has Gasquet, Nisikori, Rosol, Stan, Monfils to name a few. Not all of them may make it or even cause Rafa problems but some of them will and us Rafa fans are being cautious based on the last 2 years at Wimbledon. That's understandable and a tricky draw makes that tripedation all the worse IMO.
It's almost restraining order level of fanatical!
JJ looked like an extra from The Addams Family!
I saw a photo of Laura looking lovely
I don't disagree, but to suggest he should only play 'tossers' in the early rounds and to tweet abuse to Wimbledon seems extreme and a bit of an embarrassment to fellow Rafa fans!