Wow, this type of talking might be how people get roped into cults of all sorts.
Danielle and Ashleigh sitting there nodding in total agreement with every word she says.
She means well in this case, but I bet in other cases that she's wrong, we'll see the total indoctrinated Danielle and Ashleigh totally nodding in agreement with her.
Perhaps Ashleigh and Danielle were weeping out of sheer boredom, I mean who needs the "cod-psychology" lecture (not dissimilar from the Gettysburg address - on and on).
Especially from someone who is talking cobblers and one is wearing one's dressing gown.;-)
Perhaps Ashleigh and Danielle were weeping out of sheer boredom, I mean who needs the "cod-psychology" lecture (not dissimilar from the Gettysburg address - on and on).
Especially from someone who is talking cobblers and one is wearing one's dressing gown.;-)
I don't think it should be as played down as this.
She has clearly got a big influence on them both.
Ashleigh the youngest of them all....and Danielle who just wants someone to believe in her (considering her personna is true of course).
I dont understand why everyone wants Toya gone. If she leaves its exactly what Helen and Co want. Next week they will dominate the noms while the outsiders will target each other thinking the public disagree with what has gone down this week (screwing over Marlon, Steve and Ash). This eviction is going to screw everything over.
I dont understand why everyone wants Toya gone. If she leaves its exactly what Helen and Co want. Next week they will dominate the noms while the outsiders will target each other thinking the public disagree with what has gone down this week (screwing over Marlon, Steve and Ash). This eviction is going to screw everything over.
Do you honestly think Toya staying is going to be that much balance to an already unstable house?
She's been a mouthpiece to expose some of those on their holidays, but her staying this week isn't going to shift it entirely.
However, she herself going, would be the end of tyranny and the shouting down of other hms mentality we've seen since week one.
Indeed!!! And Christopher, Chris, Jale might band together with Danielle, Matthew and Asheigh - so the balance of power may well shift.
Then we can pick holes in all of them: Christopher for being annoying, Danielle the hypocrite, Jale the victim, Matthew the sly snake ; Ashleigh will find her voice and it will be screechy. Chris won't have to do anything and he will win! I'm psychic.:D
Then we can pick holes in all of them: Christopher for being annoying, Danielle the hypocrite, Jale the victim, Matthew the sly snake ; Ashleigh will find her voice and it will be screechy. Chris won't have to do anything and he will win! I'm psychic.:D
Well yes!
Why not?
We don't need another Toya dictating how they should be or how they should think.
I turned it off after just a bit. My first thought (from Danielle's perspective) was ... why is this bitch trying to pump up my ego when she just passed up a chance to save me? And then, it all became clear, as it turned into a ... you should hate the boys or you'll disappoint me and yourself ... indoctrination.
I turned it off after just a bit. My first thought (from Danielle's perspective) was ... why is this bitch trying to pump up my ego when she just passed up a chance to save me? And then, it all became clear, as it turned into a ... you should hate the boys or you'll disappoint me and yourself ... indoctrination.
I've said the bolded part of your post in another thread.
She reminds me of a cult leader of some type.
And I can see this being her modus operandi with housemates like Ashleigh and Danielle.
Wow, this type of talking might be how people get roped into cults of all sorts.
Danielle and Ashleigh sitting there nodding in total agreement with every word she says.
She means well in this case, but I bet in other cases that she's wrong, we'll see the total indoctrinated Danielle and Ashleigh totally nodding in agreement with her.
Get her to eff out.
I'm not convinced she does.
I heard a reference to Danielle talking to Winston which "shocked" Toya. She is therefore attempting to demolish and undermine Danielle's confidence behind a veneer of encouraging her to be her "true self". She pulled a similar stunt with Christopher after she nominated him.
I heard a reference to Danielle talking to Winston which "shocked" Toya. She is therefore attempting to demolish and undermine Danielle's confidence behind a veneer of encouraging her to be her "true self". She pulled a similar stunt with Christopher after she nominated him.
Wow, that is the best few words I've ever heard Toya utter . She is absolutely right .
I've said it on here, Danielle has completely retreated into her shell from the girl that stood up to Helen and Stephen in the beginning . She's become dull and boring trying to fit in with the nasty bunch and has not remained true to herself .
She needs to find some of that original backbone .
She sounds like a mom/a friend who wants her other friend to shine. I seriously can't believe I'm defending Toya though, but she's coming from a good place with Danielle
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Toya / Danielle are such trainwrecks.
Danielle and Ashleigh sitting there nodding in total agreement with every word she says.
She means well in this case, but I bet in other cases that she's wrong, we'll see the total indoctrinated Danielle and Ashleigh totally nodding in agreement with her.
Get her to eff out.
Especially from someone who is talking cobblers and one is wearing one's dressing gown.;-)
I don't think it should be as played down as this.
She has clearly got a big influence on them both.
Ashleigh the youngest of them all....and Danielle who just wants someone to believe in her (considering her personna is true of course).
Do you honestly think Toya staying is going to be that much balance to an already unstable house?
She's been a mouthpiece to expose some of those on their holidays, but her staying this week isn't going to shift it entirely.
However, she herself going, would be the end of tyranny and the shouting down of other hms mentality we've seen since week one.
Indeed!!! And Christopher, Chris, Jale might band together with Danielle, Matthew and Asheigh - so the balance of power may well shift.
Then we can pick holes in all of them: Christopher for being annoying, Danielle the hypocrite, Jale the victim, Matthew the sly snake ; Ashleigh will find her voice and it will be screechy. Chris won't have to do anything and he will win! I'm psychic.:D
Indeed.
We need Toya out so that her indoctrination is nullified.
Well yes!
Why not?
We don't need another Toya dictating how they should be or how they should think.
Agree totally! Leave the CBT to the experts (er not necessarily Oprah;-).
I turned it off after just a bit. My first thought (from Danielle's perspective) was ... why is this bitch trying to pump up my ego when she just passed up a chance to save me? And then, it all became clear, as it turned into a ... you should hate the boys or you'll disappoint me and yourself ... indoctrination.
I've said the bolded part of your post in another thread.
She reminds me of a cult leader of some type.
And I can see this being her modus operandi with housemates like Ashleigh and Danielle.
I'm not convinced she does.
I heard a reference to Danielle talking to Winston which "shocked" Toya. She is therefore attempting to demolish and undermine Danielle's confidence behind a veneer of encouraging her to be her "true self". She pulled a similar stunt with Christopher after she nominated him.
It's not well meaning, it's a punishment.
Well I'll give you that
She never means well.
Wow, that is the best few words I've ever heard Toya utter . She is absolutely right .
I've said it on here, Danielle has completely retreated into her shell from the girl that stood up to Helen and Stephen in the beginning . She's become dull and boring trying to fit in with the nasty bunch and has not remained true to herself .
She needs to find some of that original backbone .