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London must be spotless

Mark1974Mark1974 Posts: 4,162
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Watching a programme on TV at the moment that is showing various parts of residential London, and I've yet to see any litter. Ilford, an area I know well and one that allegedly has become dirty has just been on and was spotless.

Is this the normal case, because every programme that shows London's suburbs, shows them as very clean?
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    dosanjh1dosanjh1 Posts: 8,727
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    Mark1974 wrote: »
    Watching a programme on TV at the moment that is showing various parts of residential London, and I've yet to see any litter. Ilford, an area I know well and one that allegedly has become dirty has just been on and was spotless.

    Is this the normal case, because every programme that shows London's suburbs, shows them as very clean?

    Most london councils take clean streets very seriously - it's a big vote winner. Difficult job though.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 500
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    To be honest - the streets ain't that bad and the graffiti is art...
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    Mark1974Mark1974 Posts: 4,162
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    So are all your streets clean?
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 500
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    Mark1974 wrote: »
    So are all your streets clean?

    living in East London, yes, nice area on the river but all council estates - was lovely. Living in West London we had trouble with people on the street who left crap out - (murder in the local park but streets were clean) so in general was clean compared to my mates who lived in cities up North was much cleaner.

    I think it does depend on the area. I went to places like Peckham, Brixton, Clapham - thinking 'shithole' and was always surprised at how lively it was, but clean.

    I live in Surrey and saw masses of bin bags outside a Costa last week. So whats better?
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    LostFoolLostFool Posts: 90,663
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    Compared to many towns and cities in the UK, London is indeed a clean city and has improved a lot over recent years. Whether this is because more is spent on street cleaning or the natives are cleaner is open to debate.
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    Mark1974Mark1974 Posts: 4,162
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    Northern cities are dirty, but I tend to find peoples attitudes towards litter are bad up here.
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    80sfan80sfan Posts: 18,522
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    Mark1974 wrote: »
    Northern cities are dirty, but I tend to find peoples attitudes towards litter are bad up here.

    I suggest you look at some really Tory-loving areas of the south-east.

    There are quite a lot of dirty places in places like Essex, Kent and Hertfordshire to name a few. Take a walk round towns like Chatham, Basildon, Stevenage and Hatfield. As dirty & full of dog dirt & litter as you can get >:(
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    80sfan80sfan Posts: 18,522
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    LostFool wrote: »
    Whether this is because more is spent on street cleaning or the natives are cleaner is open to debate.

    I think comparing say Richmond with Hounslow and Kingston with Peckham would be interesting :)

    Central London is very clean. The Underground staff do an impeccable job at keeping stations clean. A lot of the suburbs are clean too. I'd say it's the less-affluent parts people just don't see as visitors that would let London down
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    Mark1974Mark1974 Posts: 4,162
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    80sfan wrote: »
    I think comparing say Richmond with Hounslow and Kingston with Peckham would be interesting :)

    Central London is very clean. The Underground staff do an impeccable job at keeping stations clean. A lot of the suburbs are clean too. I'd say it's the less-affluent parts people just don't see as visitors that would let London down

    A poster earlier said council estates in East London, as well as Brixton and Peckham were clean.
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    80sfan80sfan Posts: 18,522
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    Mark1974 wrote: »
    A poster earlier said council estates in East London, as well as Brixton and Peckham were clean.

    I can't say I really feel the need to walk round East London estates. Romford is the nearest I've been to the east of London, and their Market Square could do with a bit of doing up. Not the nicest looking area.

    I really think you need to realise Yorkshire is as good as anywhere else. I've seen as much good in West Yorkshire as I have in the dying county of Hertfordshire. Just remember Yorkshire folk are friendlier on average :)
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    Mark1974Mark1974 Posts: 4,162
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    80sfan wrote: »
    I can't say I really feel the need to walk round East London estates. Romford is the nearest I've been to the east of London, and their Market Square could do with a bit of doing up. Not the nicest looking area.

    I really think you need to realise Yorkshire is as good as anywhere else. I've seen as much good in West Yorkshire as I have in the dying county of Hertfordshire. Just remember Yorkshire folk are friendlier on average :)

    It's just litter that let's us down.

    I'm guessing you're from up here originally.
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    80sfan80sfan Posts: 18,522
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    Mark1974 wrote: »
    It's just litter that let's us down.

    I'm guessing you're from up here originally.

    I spent many a year working and studying in Nottingham & know Yorkshire quite well :)

    I can assure you the North (and the Midlands for that matter) as a whole is no dirtier than the South!!

    Harrogate can hold its own against Windsor any day :)
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    Mark1974Mark1974 Posts: 4,162
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    80sfan wrote: »
    I spent many a year working and studying in Nottingham & know Yorkshire quite well :)

    I can assure you the North (and the Midlands for that matter) as a whole is no dirtier than the South!!

    Harrogate can hold its own against Windsor any day :)

    Well according to previous posts, London's certainly clean.
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    malpascmalpasc Posts: 9,643
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    It can vary from borough to borough as different councils will have different street cleaning budgets and policies.

    My own local council, the London Borough of Waltham Forest do a valiant job of trying to keep the streets clean but we do seem to have a lot of residents who have no idea how to dispose of things correctly so leave items all over the street for other people to then deal with.

    The streets are on the whole clean but get messed up very quickly.
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    DianaFireDianaFire Posts: 12,711
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    It's pretty good, on the whole. As for being anti-litter, you'll still find the occasional abandoned coffee cup on a train, but it really isn't bad. There are plenty of bins and ciggie bins. In the centre, tourists tend to be the worst at just dropping litter in the road in my experience. (Not all of them, obv.)
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    makavelli132makavelli132 Posts: 1,297
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    What is it with you and litter cleaning threads OP?

    Do you have a litter fetish?
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    Kiko H FanKiko H Fan Posts: 6,546
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    The unemployed lick the streets clean with their tongues, otherwise they lose their benefits.
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    SemieroticSemierotic Posts: 11,132
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    London isn't spotless, but the the idea that it's some rubbish-infested dump is a total myth.
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    Mark1974Mark1974 Posts: 4,162
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    What is it with you and litter cleaning threads OP?

    Do you have a litter fetish?

    Litter is something I hate, and my area is bad for it.

    Whenever I see other areas on TV, especially London, they just look so much cleaner.

    Oh, and by the way, I'll make no apologies for my hate of litter.
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    Mark1974Mark1974 Posts: 4,162
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    Given what goes on in the rougher parts of London, but they stay clean, is it a case amongst those involved that...

    It's OK to stab or shoot someone
    Be involved in street robberies
    But they draw the line at dropping a Coke can on the street?
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    rupert_pupkinrupert_pupkin Posts: 3,975
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    Mark1974 wrote: »
    Given what goes on in the rougher parts of London, but they stay clean, is it a case amongst those involved that...

    It's OK to stab or shoot someone
    Be involved in street robberies
    But they draw the line at dropping a Coke can on the street?

    Yes. Just the other day a policeman stood and watched as i stabbed somebody in the neck but arrested me for dropping a crisp packet as I walked away
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 6,899
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    Mark1974 wrote: »
    Given what goes on in the rougher parts of London, but they stay clean, is it a case amongst those involved that...

    It's OK to stab or shoot someone
    Be involved in street robberies
    But they draw the line at dropping a Coke can on the street?

    No, of course not.....
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    Safi74Safi74 Posts: 5,580
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    Yes. Just the other day a policeman stood and watched as i stabbed somebody in the neck but arrested me for dropping a crisp packet as I walked away

    Well serves you right for not taking your litter home with you!!! I hope he threw the book at you?! Litter lout!😜
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    Mark1974Mark1974 Posts: 4,162
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    Safi74 wrote: »
    Well serves you right for not taking your litter home with you!!! I hope he threw the book at you?! Litter lout!��

    Haha.

    My point is there are areas of London that look as rough as sandpaper, but yet the streets are spotless.

    I can't imagine every street in London is cleaned continuously 24/7. Nor can I imagine that NOBODY in London drops litter.
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    plateletplatelet Posts: 26,389
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    Kiko H Fan wrote: »
    The unemployed lick the streets clean with their tongues, otherwise they lose their benefits.

    You have to polish that gold somehow
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