Are the satellites able to track smallish missile launches, and don't they actually have to be over the area and actively monitoring it at the same time?.
I know they can track the launch of very large missile systems, such as intercontinental missiles, but I don't think they can track smaller launches unless they are actively monitoring a given area.
I'm hoping that with the whole Russia and Ukraine thing going on, that they will have some satellites over there to monitor what goes on.
CNN just showed a picture where you could clearly see bodies in the wreckage, I really. don't want to see images like that and I'm concerned that children may see them.
280 passengers and 15 crew apparently, according to Ukrainian interior ministry.
295 was the number quoted, then changed to 280, and a few other numbers. It's still a lot of people gone. Horrible!I'd like to know who they were, which I know will take time...
Thanks for saying, still can't believe it happened. This event is as big as the ocean one which hasn't been resolved, and was about to, then this....awful:(
Thankfully the US has satellites that will be able to see if a missile downed the plane and where it was fired from, even if they try and hide the on ground evidence.
Seems as though they're able to track surface-to-surface ballistic missiles, but not surface-to-air.
They're talking about trying to find out if the AWACS planes recorded anything.
You would assume if this was an act by Russian separatists, the West would have to take some major action now.
It is quite shameful that the situation started to slip to the background as is sadly usual. The foreign office and USA had stopped talking about the situation because ISIS came along.
Why are about 10 passports all in one pile in a pic shown on news websites.
Surely they would not all land in the same spot like that considering most would be in bags anyway. Unless someone has collected them and photographed them.
Why are about 10 passports all in one pile in a pic shown on news websites.
Surley they would not all land in the same spot like that considering most would be in bags anyway. Unless someone has collected them and photographed them.
There's a video on life news of someone holding a few passports, so your final guess is probably correct.
To be honest I wouldn't set foot on a Malaysian Airliner because of MH370.
If you want to see the World Jack, outside of Majorca, you have to take the risk.
A very small risk, in fact you have more chance of an accident on your way to the airport than the plane crashing. Cliché but true. (That's why a cliché)
Well it would be ignoring a lot of coincidences considering the location of the crash to say the plane just happened to have a catastrophic mechanical fault while it just happened to be flying over a contested area of Ukraine in which previous planes have been downed.
Well in this instance I can see where the idea has come from, but I don't like to prematurely jump to any conclusion without being in possession of all the facts.
I'll wait and see how the investigation pans out.
And premature hysteria should be avoided at all costs, IMO
Planes in area of crash site pictured flying away from Ukraine
Even if it was an accident wouldn't you change your current flight plans "just in case".
BTW the warning was nothing to do with the threat of shooting down but that ATC was becoming a bit fragmented so aircraft in the same area could be been dealt with by different groups increasing the risk of collision
What they should be showing is YESTERDAY'S flights and the route they took
A tweet (in Russian) from a key Twitter account used by pro-Russian separatists, in which they claim to have captured a Buk surface-to-air missile system, has now been deleted, BBC Monitoring observes. Ukrainians say the Malaysian plane could have been downed with a Buk, but pro-Russian rebels have now denied they have it.
Anderson has just said it was 280 passengers and 15 crew, so that tallies with what's been stated.
This event will touch the whole world of airlines. I also heard a little while ago that airlines will make sure that planes won't go over same area, and hope that happens.
I wondered if Inmarsat had monitored the plane, but from what the tv said, it wasn't picked up by satellite, but maybe the military might have done.
The transponders were working normally, so whatever organisations receive the transmissions will have received them. We know this because various fight tracking websites were tracking the aircraft right up to the point it crashed
The Ukraine interior minister claimed over 300 died along with these 23 US citizens. I would take these reports with a pinch of salt, the Sky News reporter suggested that it may well be propaganda to irritate/upset the Americans for political purposes.
Ukrainian Interior Ministry official Anton Gerashchenko writing on Facebook: "Just now, over Torez, terrorists using a Buk anti-aircraft system kindly given to them by Putin have shot down a civilian airliner flying from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur."
"There is no limit to the cynicism of Putin and his terrorists!"
"Europe, USA, Canada, the civilised world, open your eyes! Help us in any way you can! This is a war of good against evil!"
Kiev has been desperate for a NATO war against Russia for months. I must say that much of rhetoric coming out of Kiev in recent months could easily have come out of the mouth of Saddam, Bin Laden or the Kim family, with talk of fire and brimstone.
If any part of this is true, l would think that will be the end for Malaysian Airlines.
Indeed, and for those who are saying that Malaysian Airlines cannot be held responsible, it was ultimately their decision for the flight to take that flight path.
Sky News also mentioned this about an hour ago - other airlines avoid the area but Malaysian Airlines and a couple of other Eastern Airlines had been until today.
Indeed, and for those who are saying that Malaysian Airlines cannot be held responsible, it was ultimately their decision for the flight to take that flight path.
Sky News also mentioned this about an hour ago - other airlines avoid the area but Malaysian Airlines and a couple of other Eastern Airlines had been until today.
BBC just showed a clip of Obama speaking at a fundraising event. He was pretty quick to move on from the subject and crack a few jokes. Guess you have to ligthen the mood somehow.
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I'm hoping that with the whole Russia and Ukraine thing going on, that they will have some satellites over there to monitor what goes on.
Ukraine's President Petro Poroshenko believes "terrorist act" caused crash of flight #MH17 http://bbc.in/1t9Psf4
6:41 PM - 17 Jul 2014
Thanks for saying, still can't believe it happened. This event is as big as the ocean one which hasn't been resolved, and was about to, then this....awful:(
Seems as though they're able to track surface-to-surface ballistic missiles, but not surface-to-air.
They're talking about trying to find out if the AWACS planes recorded anything.
It is quite shameful that the situation started to slip to the background as is sadly usual. The foreign office and USA had stopped talking about the situation because ISIS came along.
Surely they would not all land in the same spot like that considering most would be in bags anyway. Unless someone has collected them and photographed them.
There's a video on life news of someone holding a few passports, so your final guess is probably correct.
Thoughts with the deceased's relatives and friends.
A very small risk, in fact you have more chance of an accident on your way to the airport than the plane crashing. Cliché but true. (That's why a cliché)
Well in this instance I can see where the idea has come from, but I don't like to prematurely jump to any conclusion without being in possession of all the facts.
I'll wait and see how the investigation pans out.
And premature hysteria should be avoided at all costs, IMO
BTW the warning was nothing to do with the threat of shooting down but that ATC was becoming a bit fragmented so aircraft in the same area could be been dealt with by different groups increasing the risk of collision
What they should be showing is YESTERDAY'S flights and the route they took
This event will touch the whole world of airlines. I also heard a little while ago that airlines will make sure that planes won't go over same area, and hope that happens.
The black boxes should tell more
http://rt.com/news/173628-malaysian-plane-crash-ukraine/
The Ukraine interior minister claimed over 300 died along with these 23 US citizens. I would take these reports with a pinch of salt, the Sky News reporter suggested that it may well be propaganda to irritate/upset the Americans for political purposes.
Kiev has been desperate for a NATO war against Russia for months. I must say that much of rhetoric coming out of Kiev in recent months could easily have come out of the mouth of Saddam, Bin Laden or the Kim family, with talk of fire and brimstone.
It was reportedly being tracked by the normal tracking systems up to the moment it disappeared off the systems.
Edit: Beaten to it by Ethel.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=465419050262262&set=a.121009184703252.21333.100003825135026&type=1
That is a dutch man who posted a joke before he was due to take off saying "Just in case it goes missing, this is what the plane looks like".
Indeed, and for those who are saying that Malaysian Airlines cannot be held responsible, it was ultimately their decision for the flight to take that flight path.
Sky News also mentioned this about an hour ago - other airlines avoid the area but Malaysian Airlines and a couple of other Eastern Airlines had been until today.