on 5 plus 1 now Mark just said in the control room "i'm not ecstatic i'm quite upset, really sadly unfortunately we have to pick Ash, really the power alliance already wanted to pick Ash so Ash it is"
I'd like to also add to my quotes above the general closing of tonights episode:
Chris: The best scenario is this because we don't think Ash is gonna go...
Mark (so clearly selfless and distraught and wracked with grief about the Ash situation): The three of us have made it to the end of week 8, that's unbelievable guys. That's incredible.
Oh, and of course, the general sentiment:
IN THE CONTROL ROOM: 'I didn't want to vote for Ash but this has been a lovely trip to come and meet you Iris and see the power room... oh, silly me, I mean the control room. Yes it's been a jolly little jaunt'
RELAYING TO HELEN AND CO: 'THEY MADE ME GO IN THERE! I was in tears! I had to say Ash's name and I was forced to! I was in there for a hour absolutely devastated because of it! I had to have post traumatic stress treatment!"
Anybody defending Mark in this particular instance are looking very naive. There is footage showing how much of a self-centred little liar he can be at times. It's a shame, he was my favourite at one point.
I'd like to also add to my quotes above the general closing of tonights episode:
Chris: The best scenario is this because we don't think Ash is gonna go...
Mark (so clearly selfless and distraught and wracked with grief about the Ash situation): The three of us have made it to the end of week 8, that's unbelievable guys. That's incredible.
Oh, and of course, the general sentiment:
IN THE CONTROL ROOM: 'I didn't want to vote for Ash but this has been a lovely trip to come and meet you Iris and see the power room... oh, silly me, I mean the control room. Yes it's been a jolly little jaunt'
RELAYING TO HELEN AND CO: 'THEY MADE ME GO IN THERE! I was in tears! I had to say Ash's name and I was forced to! I was in there for a hour absolutely devastated because of it! I had to have post traumatic stress treatment!"
Anybody defending Mark in this particular instance are looking very naive. There is footage showing how much of a self-centred little liar he can be at times. It's a shame, he was my favourite at one point.
i think your hatred for Mark has glossed over the truth
i just posted what he said in the control room and it's very consistent to what he also said to Helen
on 5 plus 1 now Mark just said in the control room "i'm not ecstatic i'm quite upset, really sadly unfortunately we have to pick Ash, really the power alliance already wanted to pick Ash so Ash it is"
He was certainly hamming it up. I quite like Mark but let's be real, a lot of what he does is very contrived, and in this particular instance he wasn't being completely honest with Helen & co.
He's such a snake, he couldn't wait to throw them to the wolves!
And Helen is a foul mouthed trollop who seems to think her group are entitled to some special treatment
Absolutely agree. Helen is expecting it - because her only experience in BB house is being entitled. Part of BB game is fearing nominations (feeling disliked by housemates) and eviction (fearing being disliked by the public).
I know some people feel like this might make it tough for Ashleigh and Chris this week but I'm glad this went down, it exposed Mark as a weak minded spineless coward and i firmly believe Chris and Ashleigh will come out victorious against the rest, also will prove who their real friends are ( my guess is Pav and Christopher won't shun Chris or Ashleigh), the others will slowly lose their places in the house and justice will be served.
Absolutely agree. Helen is expecting it - because her only experience in BB house is being entitled. Part of BB game is fearing nominations (feeling disliked by housemates) and eviction (fearing being disliked by the public).
Thing that gets me most about all of this is BB clearly said 'No one is safe' by that logic Helen's position should've been threatened. A few days later Ashleigh is told she's immune. Fast forward a few more hours and suddenly both of those decision have been reversed and we're back to square one
i think your hatred for Mark has glossed over the truth
i just posted what he said in the control room and it's very consistent to what he also said to Helen
My hatred for Mark? Say whaaa?
I said in my post he was previously one of my favourites - I don't have any sycophantic fanaticism to any housemate. If they're in the wrong or pulling nonsense like this, I'm happy to say so.
I saw you re-posted what he said in the control room, but that wasn't necessary anyway as I Sky+ the show so I re-watched it.
The whole persona and nature of how he conducted his duties in the power alliance were completely misrepresented when he was relaying it back to Helen, Steven and Ash. There's little point saying otherwise as if you watch the scene in the control room and then, more damningly, the very final scene of tonight's episode, then contrast it with his 'confession' in the bedroom to Helen and cohorts then surely *anybody* could see the glaring discord.
I said in my post he was previously one of my favourites - I don't have any sycophantic fanaticism to any housemate. If they're in the wrong or pulling nonsense like this, I'm happy to say so.
I saw you re-posted what he said in the control room, but that wasn't necessary anyway as I Sky+ the show so I re-watched it.
The whole persona and nature of how he conducted his duties in the power alliance were completely misrepresented when he was relaying it back to Helen, Steven and Ash. There's little point saying otherwise as if you watch the scene in the control room and then, more damningly, the very final scene of tonight's episode, then contrast it with his 'confession' in the bedroom to Helen and cohorts then surely *anybody* could see the glaring discord.
the facts are there and you can't alter them, he was very consistent in both occasions, we get to see 30 seconds of who to put up but you know it would have been a longer discussion than that and you can't argue with what he said about being very upset at nominating Ash because he is very friendly with Ash
All these accusations of people hating on Mark or being unfair, here's a quote taken from tonight's episode when he was talking to Chris and Ashleigh in the kitchen.
Chris: I was worried you might get too upset by it.
Mark shakes his head in disagreement several times.
Mark (calm, composed, content): I was very logical. There was three to choose from, then there was two to choose from. The fact of the matter is we're all extremely close to Christopher and only 1 of us is very close to Ash. It wouldn't make sense.
Ashleigh: And I think the public would've looked at you in a different light if you'd voted for Christopher instead of Ash.
Mark: 100 percent.
In terms of behaviour and the content of what he's actually saying, that *totally* jars with his impassioned, didn't-want-to-but-they-forced-me bile he spews so melodramatically in the video in the OP.
I have loved Mark since the beginning but have slowly gone off him this week after seeing how he has treated Christopher.
This has also left a bad taste
*Marks goes to control room*
*has a lovely chat with Iris about how the control room is incredible & it looks like a space ship and he loves it*
"It's been difficult because everybody on the board is me friend"
He also said "I'm not ecstatic, I'm quite upset, really sadly, unfortunately we have to pick Ash, really the power alliance already wanted to pick Ash, so Ash it is"
None of which I had a problem with, he handed it maturely and knew it was the best decision, all he had to do was explain that to Helen and Ash, but instead we got ...
"I had to fight for him, I was gutted, I had to be the one who had to go and ****ing say in the control room.
Do you know how hard it was for me ****ing saying his name to that ****ing face?
I was sat there ****ing crying, I had to sit in the diary room for a ****ing hour because I couldn't even get me breath because I felt like a ****ing Judas.
It was ****ing horrific"
His explanation is what has made him look spineless, he acted like he was wailing on the floor instead of the calm responses we saw above.
the facts are there and you can't alter them, he was very consistent in both occasions, we get to see 30 seconds of who to put up but you know it would have been a longer discussion than that and you can't argue with what he said about being very upset at nominating Ash because he is very friendly with Ash
You're in the minority for a reason - everyone else is seeing how two-faced he is.
As you said, the facts are there and you can't alter them. There's a reason the majority of people are taking Mark's behaviour here negatively.
Anyhow, I'm not trying to change your mind, just stating facts too.
What really annoys me about the whole situation is that anybody feels they have to explain their nominations to people, and that those people feel they have a right to demand an explanation. I doubt they stop at asking Mark for an explanation, there will no doubt be an inquisition involving Chris and Ashleigh (perhaps less so) at some point.
I would truly love for one or both of them to turn around and just say it's none of your business, we made our choices and our reasons are our own.
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Chris: The best scenario is this because we don't think Ash is gonna go...
Mark (so clearly selfless and distraught and wracked with grief about the Ash situation): The three of us have made it to the end of week 8, that's unbelievable guys. That's incredible.
Oh, and of course, the general sentiment:
IN THE CONTROL ROOM: 'I didn't want to vote for Ash but this has been a lovely trip to come and meet you Iris and see the power room... oh, silly me, I mean the control room. Yes it's been a jolly little jaunt'
RELAYING TO HELEN AND CO: 'THEY MADE ME GO IN THERE! I was in tears! I had to say Ash's name and I was forced to! I was in there for a hour absolutely devastated because of it! I had to have post traumatic stress treatment!"
Anybody defending Mark in this particular instance are looking very naive. There is footage showing how much of a self-centred little liar he can be at times. It's a shame, he was my favourite at one point.
i think your hatred for Mark has glossed over the truth
i just posted what he said in the control room and it's very consistent to what he also said to Helen
So he's not a two faced liar.
With this and his treatment of Christopher, he’s destroyed any hope of winning.
no but a few on this thread have big noses
No he is the biggest yellow belly
The smiling assassin.
Absolutely agree. Helen is expecting it - because her only experience in BB house is being entitled. Part of BB game is fearing nominations (feeling disliked by housemates) and eviction (fearing being disliked by the public).
Mark is about as two faced as they come whether you choose to see it or not.
Thing that gets me most about all of this is BB clearly said 'No one is safe' by that logic Helen's position should've been threatened. A few days later Ashleigh is told she's immune. Fast forward a few more hours and suddenly both of those decision have been reversed and we're back to square one
My hatred for Mark? Say whaaa?
I said in my post he was previously one of my favourites - I don't have any sycophantic fanaticism to any housemate. If they're in the wrong or pulling nonsense like this, I'm happy to say so.
I saw you re-posted what he said in the control room, but that wasn't necessary anyway as I Sky+ the show so I re-watched it.
The whole persona and nature of how he conducted his duties in the power alliance were completely misrepresented when he was relaying it back to Helen, Steven and Ash. There's little point saying otherwise as if you watch the scene in the control room and then, more damningly, the very final scene of tonight's episode, then contrast it with his 'confession' in the bedroom to Helen and cohorts then surely *anybody* could see the glaring discord.
the facts are there and you can't alter them, he was very consistent in both occasions, we get to see 30 seconds of who to put up but you know it would have been a longer discussion than that and you can't argue with what he said about being very upset at nominating Ash because he is very friendly with Ash
I have loved Mark since the beginning but have slowly gone off him this week after seeing how he has treated Christopher.
This has also left a bad taste
*Marks goes to control room*
*has a lovely chat with Iris about how the control room is incredible & it looks like a space ship and he loves it*
"It's been difficult because everybody on the board is me friend"
He also said "I'm not ecstatic, I'm quite upset, really sadly, unfortunately we have to pick Ash, really the power alliance already wanted to pick Ash, so Ash it is"
None of which I had a problem with, he handed it maturely and knew it was the best decision, all he had to do was explain that to Helen and Ash, but instead we got ...
"I had to fight for him, I was gutted, I had to be the one who had to go and ****ing say in the control room.
Do you know how hard it was for me ****ing saying his name to that ****ing face?
I was sat there ****ing crying, I had to sit in the diary room for a ****ing hour because I couldn't even get me breath because I felt like a ****ing Judas.
It was ****ing horrific"
His explanation is what has made him look spineless, he acted like he was wailing on the floor instead of the calm responses we saw above.
You're in the minority for a reason - everyone else is seeing how two-faced he is.
As you said, the facts are there and you can't alter them. There's a reason the majority of people are taking Mark's behaviour here negatively.
Anyhow, I'm not trying to change your mind, just stating facts too.
I would truly love for one or both of them to turn around and just say it's none of your business, we made our choices and our reasons are our own.
you;re not though, you told lies saying he was having fun in the control room when nominating Ash, that was proved as a lie
This, this and more this.