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Renting - Gas safety Certificate

mlc2009mlc2009 Posts: 281
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Hi All,
Moved into an upstairs flat. Tenant company advised I should get a gas safety certificate and organised an engineer, I could make the appointment both times as I was not in so the engineer has charged me £40 for a callout charge. I have a very busy schedule during the day, I'm under impression the gas safety certificate should of been organised before I moved in, can anyone advise?
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    chenkschenks Posts: 13,231
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    is it the landlords responsibility to do this, not yours.
    however, if you had arranged the appointment and missed it then that is your fault, not the landlords.

    the agent should not have advised you to get it done, they should have taken responsibility to get it done - and it legally needs done annually.
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    mlc2009mlc2009 Posts: 281
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    chenks wrote: »
    is it the landlords responsibility to do this, not yours.
    however, if you had arranged the appointment and missed it then that is your fault, not the landlords.

    the agent should not have advised you to get it done, they should have taken responsibility to get it done - and it legally needs done annually.

    well I have a busy schedule during the day, and this is first time I have moved into a flat on my own, the gas isnt even switched on yet and I didn't realise this so had to cancel the appointment
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    chenkschenks Posts: 13,231
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    mlc2009 wrote: »
    well I have a busy schedule during the day, and this is first time I have moved into a flat on my own, the gas isnt even switched on yet and I didn't realise this so had to cancel the appointment

    gas will need to be on for the safety check to be done.
    you need to allow it to be done.

    either by you making yourself available or giving the agent access when you are out.

    it's only your life at stake if you don't allow it to take place.
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    mlc2009mlc2009 Posts: 281
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    chenks wrote: »
    gas will need to be on for the safety check to be done.
    you need to allow it to be done.

    either by you making yourself available or giving the agent access when you are out.

    it's only your life at stake if you don't allow it to take place.

    of course I will be getting this done, I just wasnt happy that letting agent sent me a quite nasty email saying that I missed the appointment, which was uncalled for. I had no idea the gas had to be on and that takes time, there was no provider attached when I moved in
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    chenkschenks Posts: 13,231
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    mlc2009 wrote: »
    of course I will be getting this done, I just wasnt happy that letting agent sent me a quite nasty email saying that I missed the appointment, which was uncalled for. I had no idea the gas had to be on and that takes time, there was no provider attached when I moved in

    they will keep bugging you, and rightly so.
    they bound by law to ensure it is carried out, and they are the ones that will go to jail should anything serious happen and safety check is overdue.
    they can, and will force entry if needs must (commonly known in the business as a "kick in").

    and think about it, how can a gas appliance be checked for compliance if there is no gas supply!
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,170
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    Far as I'm aware your not allowed to rent property without this in place?
    Was there a cross over date when you moved in, I mean did it run out while you were in the process of moving?
    Ask to see the previous certificate and check the date.
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    chenkschenks Posts: 13,231
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    Far as I'm aware your not allowed to rent property without this in place?
    Was there a cross over date when you moved in, I mean did it run out while you were in the process of moving?
    Ask to see the previous certificate and check the date.

    unless the gas has been capped, in which case it would only need it when the gas was re-instated.

    the flat may have been empty for a while with the gas turned off.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,170
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    chenks wrote: »
    unless the gas has been capped, in which case it would only need it when the gas was re-instated.

    the flat may have been empty for a while with the gas turned off.
    For my insurance as a landlord I have to have a current gas certificate, if it was capped and people moved in I have to have a certificate from that date they moved in. Not after or any where in between.
    I don't know if it varies anywhere but, capping isn't acceptable on my own insurance.
    Obviously if the house was all electric it doesn't matter.
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    JackKlugmanJackKlugman Posts: 5,362
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    Its the landlords responsibility not yours. Dont pay for it
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    LakieLadyLakieLady Posts: 19,727
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    I believe that they shouldn't have let the property without a valid safety certificate in place. it should have been done before you moved in (unless it expired after you moved in).
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    newda898newda898 Posts: 5,466
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    I wouldn't have moved in until I'd seen the certificate, let alone have them telling me to sort it out.
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    chenkschenks Posts: 13,231
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    LakieLady wrote: »
    I believe that they shouldn't have let the property without a valid safety certificate in place. it should have been done before you moved in (unless it expired after you moved in).

    if there is no gas supply then it can't be done until the gas has been reconnected, and that would be done by the tenant.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,170
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    mlc2009 wrote: »
    Hi All,
    Moved into an upstairs flat. Tenant company advised I should get a gas safety certificate and organised an engineer, I could make the appointment both times as I was not in so the engineer has charged me £40 for a callout charge. I have a very busy schedule during the day, I'm under impression the gas safety certificate should of been organised before I moved in, can anyone advise?
    Can you confirm was there gas available when you moved in?
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    mlc2009mlc2009 Posts: 281
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    Can you confirm was there gas available when you moved in?

    No Gas, electric though.. I rang national grid and they said there is no provider or something like that
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    chenkschenks Posts: 13,231
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    mlc2009 wrote: »
    No Gas, electric though.. I rang national grid and they said there is no provider or something like that

    you need to get gas supply sorted and then have the boiler checked.
    boulder should not be turned on until the check has been completed.
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    GPWGPW Posts: 3,387
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    Just a reminder - this is a yearly check requirement.
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    mlc2009mlc2009 Posts: 281
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    chenks wrote: »
    you need to get gas supply sorted and then have the boiler checked.
    boulder should not be turned on until the check has been completed.

    there is no running hot water, luckily I have not fully moved in yet. I think the electric is connected to the downstairs flat but I may be wrong, its on and im not paying for it
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    mlc2009 wrote: »
    there is no running hot water, luckily I have not fully moved in yet. I think the electric is connected to the downstairs flat but I may be wrong, its on and im not paying for it
    If you haven't moved in then the agents can sort this out?
    They hold spare keys.
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    chenkschenks Posts: 13,231
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    mlc2009 wrote: »
    there is no running hot water, luckily I have not fully moved in yet. I think the electric is connected to the downstairs flat but I may be wrong, its on and im not paying for it

    hot water will be supplied by the gas boiler.
    and you need a gas supply for that, and then the boiler to be safety checked.

    electric - you sure you don't have a pre-pay key meter ?
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    tim59tim59 Posts: 47,188
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    mlc2009 wrote: »
    there is no running hot water, luckily I have not fully moved in yet. I think the electric is connected to the downstairs flat but I may be wrong, its on and im not paying for it

    Is there a gas meter at all in the property.
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    sweetpeanutsweetpeanut Posts: 4,805
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    chenks wrote: »
    hot water will be supplied by the gas boiler.
    and you need a gas supply for that, and then the boiler to be safety checked.

    electric - you sure you don't have a pre-pay key meter ?

    How do you know that?
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    mlc2009mlc2009 Posts: 281
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    tim59 wrote: »
    Is there a gas meter at all in the property.

    Yes there is a gas meter, there is also a boiler
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,170
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    Really don't understand any of this, in order to rent out a property you have to make sure all the amenities are working, which means they have to be checked.
    You can't just say the gas is off, if you move in and then try and get a certificate and the boiler is buggered then you have rented a property not fit for purpose.
    Did you go through an agency or is it private rent?
    As a side note, I have never been able to get gas supply capped unless it's failed its test.
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    tim59tim59 Posts: 47,188
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    mlc2009 wrote: »
    Yes there is a gas meter, there is also a boiler

    Is it a normal meter or a prepayment meter
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    Babe RainbowBabe Rainbow Posts: 34,349
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    Sounds to me like both the landlord and the agency are some sort of joint Dog n Pony Show.

    OP I hope you're not paying rent for a property that does not have all the proper amenities in place.
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