This is a team in transistion. We have to shift quite a few players who have been cowering in a Utd shirt for far too long? We need some luck with injuries and I don't know what we have to do to get a penalty either.
This team finished seventh last season? It won't be a quick fix.
Can we afford to have another transition season?
We need to start getting the wins as soon as possible, and once the window closes and we have our squad for the time being, and LvG has more time to train with them (due to our smaller schedule), hopefully that will lead to us performing better, as the players fully adapt to this system.
Yes the injures will need to ease up, as the number of them is really hurting us.
mata was absolutely woeful today, his technique seems to have deserted him all together, januzaj should play instead of him next game. hopefully a switch to 4-3-3 for the next game, luckily our next game is at home against struggling QPR, even in our current form we should be good enough to beat that lot. i worry that van gaal will be stubborn and continue with 3-5-2...
They're under intense scrutiny in every game. It makes no logical sense for them to think, 'Meh, I can't be arsed. I don't mind getting ripped apart by the media and fans.'
There have been a couple of times last season and this season where some players have just given up, and it is clearly evident when they play. Don't know exactly what they lack, but it just seems the spirit and morale is low. There are players in that squad that were no doubt better under Sir Alex (probably due to the fact his man-management was super). We both know this isn't Man United, and some of the players are not playing to their full potential.
This is a team in transistion. We have to shift quite a few players who have been cowering in a Utd shirt for far too long.We need some luck with injuries and I don't know what we have to do to get a penalty either.
This team finished seventh last season. It won't be a quick fix.
Too many people were expecting LVG to be an instant saviour. Make no mistake, this is going to take a while to rebuild United, and as you said, we're in transition. How long that transition lasts depends on how quickly we can bed in new signings and offload the deadwood, how well the players adapt to 3-5-2, and most importantly, how well LVG can change this complacent, apathetic mindset that a lot of these players seem to be giving off. Personally, I think if the mindset of these players changes, that will go quite some way to helping us.
I think that will eventually happen, but when it will happen i don't know. We have too much quality for this bad run to go on forever.
QPR now becomes the next "must win" game, the pressure just cranks up that bit more the longer our winless run goes on.
It says something where I am actually asking myself "can we beat QPR at home?"
Yes we have too much quality for this to go much longer, but that is severely being hampered by our lack of confidence throughout the whole team it seems.
I can't stress how much 3-5-2 doesn't work. And I don't think it will ever work in the Premier League. It's painful to watch and I fear LVG is going to stick with it.
There have been a couple of times last season and this season where some players have just given up, and it is clearly evident when they play. Don't know exactly what they lack, but it just seems the spirit and morale is low. There are players in that squad that were no doubt better under Sir Alex (probably due to the fact his man-management was super). We both know this isn't Man United, and some of the players are not playing to their full potential.
I don't disagree that a few of them look like different players.
'What they lack' is confidence. Ferguson made them feel invincible. Moyes made them feel like also-rans. Van Gaal has to rebuild the mentality.
mata was absolutely woeful today, his technique seems to have deserted him all together, januzaj should play instead of him next game. hopefully a switch to 4-3-3 for the next game, luckily our next game is at home against struggling QPR, even in our current form we should be good enough to beat that lot. i worry that van gaal will be stubborn and continue with 3-5-2...
I hope that Januzaj plays in the next match as he seems like a more exciting player than Mata at the moment.
I don't think that we will be changing formation anytime soon, as LvG seems to have put his name behind it.
I don't disagree that a few of them look like different players.
'What they lack' is confidence. Ferguson made them feel invincible. Moyes made them feel like also-rans. Van Gaal has to rebuild the mentality.
Yes, I know they lack confidence. Rebuilding the mentality and the club in general can take quite some time (trust me, I know, being a Liverpool fan). I won't be writing them off after 3 matches, and think they'll scrape top 4, but it is crucial the supporters stand by LVG whatever happens, or it'll be 'David Moyes' all over.
We need to start getting the wins as soon as possible, and once the window closes and we have our squad for the time being, and LvG has more time to train with them (due to our smaller schedule), hopefully that will lead to us performing better, as the players fully adapt to this system.
Yes the injures will need to ease up, as the number of them is really hurting us.
Last season wasn't a transistion,it was a bleeding nightmare.
The wrong appointment right from the off, Moyes faffing around in the summer with transfers.
Without being too disrespectful we've got a a crock shite of players who've been wearing the shirt too long.
We're paying the price for failing to invest in 1-2 quality players a season,especially after the 2008 success where we sat back and became complacent and took too many risks on buying cheaper punts.
How does someone rebuild confidence in a group of players?
Do we have a club psychologist?
is is a very difficult situation that we find ourselves in, and will take time to change.
I don't know 'how' you do it.
They need to have the fear removed. Every defensive error, short back-pass, long ball or cautious pass back to another defender/De Gea is borne of fear.
Last season wasn't a transistion,it was a bleeding nightmare.
The wrong appointment right from the off, Moyes faffing around in the summer with transfers.
Without being too disrespectful we've got a a crock shite of players who've been wearing the shirt too long.
We're paying the price for failing to invest in 1-2 quality players a season,especially after the 2008 success where we sat back and became complacent and took too many risks on buying cheaper punts.
I have faith that we will turn it around.
One nightmare season followed by a transition one, is two seasons that we really cannot afford to have.
We should have bought when we were in a position of strength, rather than trying to buy ourselves back to the top.
All those cheaper punts all put together could have at least bought us one good player!
We need to change the squad and remove the players that are living off past glories (like Young, Valencia, Anderson at the very least), we are starting to change the squad, but it will take longer and be costlier still before we can even count ourselves amongst the top or best sides in the league.
They need to have the fear removed. Every defensive error, short back-pass, long ball or cautious pass back to another defender/De Gea is borne of fear.
Perhaps we could bring in Paul McKenna in and hypnotise them into being a good unit?!
Fear really is a killer for any team,big or small.
mata was absolutely woeful today, his technique seems to have deserted him all together, januzaj should play instead of him next game. hopefully a switch to 4-3-3 for the next game, luckily our next game is at home against struggling QPR, even in our current form we should be good enough to beat that lot. i worry that van gaal will be stubborn and continue with 3-5-2...
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I think that will eventually happen, but when it will happen i don't know. We have too much quality for this bad run to go on forever.
Can we afford to have another transition season?
We need to start getting the wins as soon as possible, and once the window closes and we have our squad for the time being, and LvG has more time to train with them (due to our smaller schedule), hopefully that will lead to us performing better, as the players fully adapt to this system.
Yes the injures will need to ease up, as the number of them is really hurting us.
There have been a couple of times last season and this season where some players have just given up, and it is clearly evident when they play. Don't know exactly what they lack, but it just seems the spirit and morale is low. There are players in that squad that were no doubt better under Sir Alex (probably due to the fact his man-management was super). We both know this isn't Man United, and some of the players are not playing to their full potential.
Too many people were expecting LVG to be an instant saviour. Make no mistake, this is going to take a while to rebuild United, and as you said, we're in transition. How long that transition lasts depends on how quickly we can bed in new signings and offload the deadwood, how well the players adapt to 3-5-2, and most importantly, how well LVG can change this complacent, apathetic mindset that a lot of these players seem to be giving off. Personally, I think if the mindset of these players changes, that will go quite some way to helping us.
QPR now becomes the next "must win" game, the pressure just cranks up that bit more the longer our winless run goes on.
It says something where I am actually asking myself "can we beat QPR at home?"
Yes we have too much quality for this to go much longer, but that is severely being hampered by our lack of confidence throughout the whole team it seems.
I don't disagree that a few of them look like different players.
'What they lack' is confidence. Ferguson made them feel invincible. Moyes made them feel like also-rans. Van Gaal has to rebuild the mentality.
I hope that Januzaj plays in the next match as he seems like a more exciting player than Mata at the moment.
I don't think that we will be changing formation anytime soon, as LvG seems to have put his name behind it.
How does someone rebuild confidence in a group of players?
Do we have a club psychologist?
is is a very difficult situation that we find ourselves in, and will take time to change.
Yes, I know they lack confidence. Rebuilding the mentality and the club in general can take quite some time (trust me, I know, being a Liverpool fan). I won't be writing them off after 3 matches, and think they'll scrape top 4, but it is crucial the supporters stand by LVG whatever happens, or it'll be 'David Moyes' all over.
Last season wasn't a transistion,it was a bleeding nightmare.
The wrong appointment right from the off, Moyes faffing around in the summer with transfers.
Without being too disrespectful we've got a a crock shite of players who've been wearing the shirt too long.
We're paying the price for failing to invest in 1-2 quality players a season,especially after the 2008 success where we sat back and became complacent and took too many risks on buying cheaper punts.
I have faith that we will turn it around.
I don't know 'how' you do it.
They need to have the fear removed. Every defensive error, short back-pass, long ball or cautious pass back to another defender/De Gea is borne of fear.
One nightmare season followed by a transition one, is two seasons that we really cannot afford to have.
We should have bought when we were in a position of strength, rather than trying to buy ourselves back to the top.
All those cheaper punts all put together could have at least bought us one good player!
We need to change the squad and remove the players that are living off past glories (like Young, Valencia, Anderson at the very least), we are starting to change the squad, but it will take longer and be costlier still before we can even count ourselves amongst the top or best sides in the league.
Perhaps we could bring in Paul McKenna in and hypnotise them into being a good unit?!
Fear really is a killer for any team,big or small.
We are unbeaten away from home!
Yeah...that is nothing to excited about is it?!
And just to rub it in, it was Diouf that scored it.
Check out @br_uk's Tweet: https://twitter.com/br_uk/status/505736189866151936
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/77278000/jpg/_77278372_d01d896f-23bf-4770-80a4-7e2b7b569840.jpg
It's our worst start to the season since 2007-8, and we won the league that season.
2007-8: W0 D2 L1; points 2; F1 A2; GD -1; Goals scored 1.
2014-15: W0 D2 L1; points 2; F2 A3; GD -1; Goals scored 2.
Final position: 1st. Early days.
Diouf being one of the many punts we took taking us into this mess we have now.
Ditto.:p
Good to see Man City are losing at least, doubt it'll finish 0-1 though..
Oh and Zaha scores for Palace, is this rub it in our face day??