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Do you find this offensive?

shaddlershaddler Posts: 11,574
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It's a video of Snoop Dogg 'whiting up' and pretending to be a white guy.

As a white guy I don't find it offensive or racist at all. I don't find it particularly funny either, but not because he's pretending to be a white guy,.

I've seen some people say that if it were a white guy 'blacking up' and doing the same thing it would be considered offensive and racist, but then you have to consider the cultural baggage and so perhaps it can't be considered to be exactly the same thing.

What do you think? Here's the video (it contains some swearing): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HTeX4AhFaA
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    Flat MattFlat Matt Posts: 7,023
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    What do I think?

    I think he's a ******** and his "music" is shit.

    I'm not offended by the whiting up though.
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    lightdragonlightdragon Posts: 19,059
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    It's Snoop.

    Sanity left that building a long time ago. :D:D
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    sodavlacsodavlac Posts: 10,607
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    lol, wtf?

    Not offended, just wondering what on earth that was all about.
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    seanfseanf Posts: 3,092
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    Doesn't bother me in the slightest, but like you said if it was the other way round it would be racist,
    My son is very heavily in to politics and he said that at some event he was attending a black woman said black people can't be racist. As they are a minority.

    She also went on to say that without power you can't be racist and as black people don't have power they can't be racist., what a load of balls.
    Yes im aware people will say I'm making this up and I wish I was.

    I will have a look to see if I can find proof.
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    steveh31steveh31 Posts: 13,516
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    I am annoyed that from the comments underneath the video it appears he is allowed to "white up" because as he is white he isn't persecuted everyday.

    Hmmm and all the black people can make all they "white boy" comments.
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    bluebladeblueblade Posts: 88,859
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    shaddler wrote: »
    It's a video of Snoop Dogg 'whiting up' and pretending to be a white guy.

    As a white guy I don't find it offensive or racist at all. I don't find it particularly funny either, but not because he's pretending to be a white guy,.

    I've seen some people say that if it were a white guy 'blacking up' and doing the same thing it would be considered offensive and racist, but then you have to consider the cultural baggage and so perhaps it can't be considered to be exactly the same thing.

    What do you think? Here's the video (it contains some swearing): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HTeX4AhFaA


    My outrage meter is firmly stuck at zero on this one.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 841
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    seanf wrote: »
    Doesn't bother me in the slightest, but like you said if it was the other way round it would be racist,
    My son is very heavily in to politics and he said that at some event he was attending a black woman said black people can't be racist. As they are a minority.

    Oh dear!
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    FizixFizix Posts: 16,932
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    Nope, why would it be offensive?
    steveh31 wrote: »
    I am annoyed that from the comments underneath the video it appears he is allowed to "white up" because as he is white he isn't persecuted everyday.

    Hmmm and all the black people can make all they "white boy" comments.


    There is a reason why "blacking up" could be seen as offensive, there is no reason why "whiting up" could be seen as offensive.
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    NX-74205NX-74205 Posts: 4,691
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    shaddler wrote: »
    I've seen some people say that if it were a white guy 'blacking up' and doing the same thing it would be considered offensive and racist, but then you have to consider the cultural baggage and so perhaps it can't be considered to be exactly the same thing.

    "Consider the cultural baggage"? WT proverbial F does that mean?
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    seanfseanf Posts: 3,092
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    double post
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    seanfseanf Posts: 3,092
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    found this not the same woman but still spouting the same crap
    At least the bloke in this article talks sense

    [url] http://www.voice-online.co.uk/article/can-black-people-be-racist[/url]
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    Ninja_NathanNinja_Nathan Posts: 292
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    No, I quite like snoop dog he makes me laugh. His make up isn't very good though.
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    jrajra Posts: 48,325
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    Flat Matt wrote: »
    What do I think?

    I think he's a ******** and his "music" is shit.

    I'm not offended by the whiting up though.

    Pretty much this. Of all the people they could get for doing the moneysupermarket advert (IIRC), they had to pick him, a convicted felon. FFS.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snoop_Dogg#Legal_incidents
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    nobabydaddynobabydaddy Posts: 2,701
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    1. this is why drugs are bad.

    2. is Snoop aspiring to go drag???
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    steveh31steveh31 Posts: 13,516
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    Fizix wrote: »
    Nope, why would it be offensive?




    There is a reason why "blacking up" could be seen as offensive, there is no reason why "whiting up" could be seen as offensive.

    Why the hell not if I put black make up on why is that offensive and it's not for a black man to pretend to be a white man??

    It's all about colour.
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    Dr. ClawDr. Claw Posts: 7,375
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    i think i wanna smoke up with him
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    Flat MattFlat Matt Posts: 7,023
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    Fizix wrote: »
    Nope, why would it be offensive?

    There is a reason why "blacking up" could be seen as offensive, there is no reason why "whiting up" could be seen as offensive.

    Would you care to share these reasons with the rest of us?
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    jrajra Posts: 48,325
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    seanf wrote: »
    Doesn't bother me in the slightest, but like you said if it was the other way round it would be racist,
    My son is very heavily in to politics and he said that at some event he was attending a black woman said black people can't be racist. As they are a minority.

    She also went on to say that without power you can't be racist and as black people don't have power they can't be racist., what a load of balls.
    Yes im aware people will say I'm making this up and I wish I was.

    I will have a look to see if I can find proof.



    You despair at the human race sometimes.

    Logic isn't some people's strong point obviously.

    So, if there are 49,999 black people in a population of 100,000 in total, it's OK to be racist, but when that total reaches 50,001 then it's not.

    The capacity of some people to talk total bollocks and bullshit knows no bounds.
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    FizixFizix Posts: 16,932
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    steveh31 wrote: »
    Why the hell not if I put black make up on why is that offensive and it's not for a black man to pretend to be a white man??

    It's all about colour.

    Because back when the western world was very openly racist, white actors would wear black make up in theatre. The content and tone of such productions was, shall we say, derogatory. *

    *I'm not saying all such productions were racist or derogatory in tone, I don't know. But that is why blacking up may be considered racist.
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    jrajra Posts: 48,325
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    Fizix wrote: »
    There is a reason why "blacking up" could be seen as offensive, there is no reason why "whiting up" could be seen as offensive.

    You being serious?

    What difference does it make?
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    AddisonianAddisonian Posts: 16,377
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    Personally no, I don't find it offensive.

    I do find his 'music' offensive to my ears though. It's utter shite.
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    FizixFizix Posts: 16,932
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    jra wrote: »
    You being serious?

    What difference does it make?

    Yes I am, and I was just highlighting why a black person whiting up cannot be compared to the reverse, in response to a specific statement. One has a history of racism behind it and the other does not.
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    shaddlershaddler Posts: 11,574
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    NX-74205 wrote: »
    "Consider the cultural baggage"? WT proverbial F does that mean?

    Maybe it wasn't the right phrase. What I was trying to refer to was the whole history of black people being dehumanised and caricatured by whites. It seems to me that 'blacking up' is more of a sensitive issue than what Snoop Dogg is doing in the video.
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    Flat MattFlat Matt Posts: 7,023
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    Fizix wrote: »
    Yes I am, and I was just highlighting why a black person whiting up cannot be compared to the reverse, in response to a specific statement. One has a history of racism behind it and the other does not.

    What a load of old cobblers.
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    FizixFizix Posts: 16,932
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    Flat Matt wrote: »
    What a load of old cobblers.

    Why is that a load of old cobblers?


    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackface

    That is a thing that used to happen and is considered at worst racist and at best provocative.
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