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Woman beheaded in London

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    LateralthinkingLateralthinking Posts: 8,027
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    DianaFire wrote: »
    It certainly sounds like someone off their meds. Sadly not the first time something like that has happened.

    Yes, perhaps but the timing is too uncanny to be a coincidence. If it was a schizophrenic reaction then the images everywhere from supermarkets to television may well have triggered it. That is, if it wasn't other brainwashing.
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    MAWMAW Posts: 38,777
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    When it's a serving member of HM forces, it looks like terrorism, but a murder in a residential street, unlikely. However, some cultures are more likely than others to murder by decapitation. All cultures murder, they just tend to do it in different ways, and for different reasons. This one does sound like a care in the community tragedy though, if he's had a go at random strangers before finding a victim.
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    Department_SDepartment_S Posts: 4,938
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    Sounds really awful. Feel for her family. And of course there's always the US gun lobby eager to use the tragedy for their own propaganda.

    http://freebeacon.com/issues/another-beheading-in-anti-gun-london/
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    Bedlam_maidBedlam_maid Posts: 5,922
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    He apparently attacked an animal first. Sounds like a madman.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 8,510
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    tiacat wrote: »
    Yes, baffled and now I can add saddened that there are people wandering round not being able to think for themselves about what might have happened when they read a news story.

    And we're the disillusioned ones!!
    :confused:
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    tiacattiacat Posts: 22,521
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    Yes, perhaps but the timing is too uncanny to be a coincidence. If it was a schizophrenic reaction then the images everywhere from supermarkets to television may well have triggered it. That is, if it wasn't other brainwashing.

    Unfortunately although crimes like this are rare, they do happen. I dont think there is any coincidence in terms of the timing, things like this just happen sometimes. Its more that the media have decided to let us all know that its NOT a terrorist attack.

    If this had been reported without the term 'beheading' this discussion would be about care in the community, psychosis, is it legitimate to consider that all people with mental illness are one step away from murder, should we ban machetes and large knives etc etc.

    It has only taken the turn it has, down to how this has been reported.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0
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    This incident is so shocking, just awful. According to Sky News, the killer is known locally as 'fat Nicholas'...
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    tiacattiacat Posts: 22,521
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    This incident is so shocking, just awful. According to Sky News, the killer is known locally as 'fat Nicholas'...

    Presumably not to his face though.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 8,510
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    tiacat wrote: »
    Presumably not to his face though.

    Sorry, that also made me laugh ... you do have a sense of humour ;-)
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    Dr. ClawDr. Claw Posts: 7,375
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    north london may as well be iraq its so dangerous there :kitty:
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    jacquelineannejacquelineanne Posts: 1,692
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    Why don't the police just come out with it and say Muslim or non Muslim, rather than beating about the bush.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 8,510
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    Why don't the police just come out with it and say Muslim or non Muslim, rather than beating about the bush.

    Its been said on here and BBC news he is Pakistani
    Keep up
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 3,609
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    This incident is so shocking, just awful. According to Sky News, the killer is known locally as 'fat Nicholas'...

    And the police, local mental health services say....?

    Has mental health policy changed over the years where dangerous people are let loose on the streets? I'm noticing an increasing number of obviously not well people just wandering the streets. They're not going anywhere in particular, they wander around aimlessly.
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    ElectraElectra Posts: 55,660
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    This incident is so shocking, just awful. According to Sky News, the killer is known locally as 'fat Nicholas'...
    Why don't the police just come out with it and say Muslim or non Muslim, rather than beating about the bush.

    If his name's Nicholas, I'd've thought that would make it less likely that he's Muslim tbh.
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    tiacattiacat Posts: 22,521
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    Sorry, that also made me laugh ... you do have a sense of humour ;-)

    I know, I shouldnt really make jokes though!
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    DaisyBillDaisyBill Posts: 4,339
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    tiacat wrote: »
    Im not sure what your point is. Its not about where people (or journalists or famous people or terrorists) are from, its about how terrorists normally perform. They like an audience. It serves their purposes. Unless he was practising for a terrorist attack somewhere else.

    My work has a high level of domestic abuse and violence involved in it, so when I hear stories about these sorts of crimes, my instinct is to see this as domestic, or drug related. Statistically its not likely to be terrorism.
    Whenever I hear of a woman being murdered I usually assume it's a case of domestic violence. As far as murder with a machete, that indicates a schizophrenic/mentally ill person to me. I may be in a minority but the possibility of a terrorist attack didn't even enter my head.
    Whatever the cause it's a terrible story. Poor lady, RIP.
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    viertevierte Posts: 4,286
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    Its been said on here and BBC news he is Pakistani
    Keep up

    I didn't see it on here? Still can't looking through the posts. All I can see is the news report for the beheading in June being done by a Pakistani man.
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    tiacattiacat Posts: 22,521
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    Its been said on here and BBC news he is Pakistani
    Keep up

    I thought that was the incident from June that Wonkey Donkey posted about?
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    FlibustierFlibustier Posts: 994
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    Cutting off a woman's head in broad daylight.. let me guess, muslim by any chance?
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    stargazer61stargazer61 Posts: 70,999
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    Why don't the police just come out with it and say Muslim or non Muslim, rather than beating about the bush.

    Because he is being treated in hospital at the moment and has not yet been questioned
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    NightFox_DancerNightFox_Dancer Posts: 14,740
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    A random attack according to Sky News, makes it all the more terrifying. :(
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    exlordlucanexlordlucan Posts: 35,375
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    Thanks but that was a report some week after the event and dreadful as it was, you calling it a 'beheading' was a bit misleading because it wasn't just that, she also received stab wounds and had her arms broken so people wouln't have speculated the same as they are doing today.

    Terrorist sites tend to either have military links, or to be centres of transport or commerce. A private house in an outer suburb just doesn't fit any pattern at all.

    Home grown terrorists have sprung up from them and terrorists know how to use the internet to communicate with each other as well, even from private house.
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    FlibustierFlibustier Posts: 994
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    Why don't the police just come out with it and say Muslim or non Muslim, rather than beating about the bush.

    To protect the problem.
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    CitrusBlastCitrusBlast Posts: 111
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    They just said they think the attack happened on the street, how the hell did she end up beheaded in someone's back garden then?! Makes no sense.
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    Under SoulUnder Soul Posts: 2,989
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    DaisyBill wrote: »
    Whenever I hear of a woman being murdered I usually assume it's a case of domestic violence. As far as murder with a machete, that indicates a schizophrenic/mentally ill person to me. I may be in a minority but the possibility of a terrorist attack didn't even enter my head.
    Whatever the cause it's a terrible story. Poor lady, RIP.

    To be honest, when I heard that it was in a garden and a beheading I thought it was one of those ghastly family "honour" killings.
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