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Scots who DON'T vote... Why?

shackfanshackfan Posts: 15,461
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This is the most important vote in any of our lifetimes. It could totally change the make up of the UK and separately, Scotland. I can't think of a valid reason why anyone would NOT want to vote. So if you are eligible and don't want vote..... Why?
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    exlordlucanexlordlucan Posts: 35,375
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    I think it involves putting a cross on a piece of paper and that might be an obstacle for some of them.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 491
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    I think it involves putting a cross on a piece of paper and that might be an obstacle for some of them.
    That's extreme atheism.
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    Chasing ShadowsChasing Shadows Posts: 3,096
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    Maybe its people who don't actually care, one way or the other, whether they are part of the UK with England, Wales and Northern Ireland, or whether they become an independent entity. If they really have no preference either way, what would be the point in voting one way or the other?
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    AxtolAxtol Posts: 8,480
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    Whatever view people have on independence I think as much people as possible should vote as it's about what every voter in Scotland wants not what a small percentage of the voters in Scotland want.
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    contrariancontrarian Posts: 1,475
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    Would it not be perhaps better to celebrate what will be a massive turnout?

    In a world where ill educated twits kill each other at the drop of a hat we are about to showcase a truly great democratic event. :)
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,874
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    I don't know whether to vote or not mainly because I am undecided about whom I should vote for!
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    vosnevosne Posts: 14,131
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    I think it involves putting a cross on a piece of paper and that might be an obstacle for some of them.
    That's extreme atheism.

    Baahahahhaaaaaaaaa..........tres bien :D
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    CentaurionCentaurion Posts: 2,060
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    How does the OP know how many people will not vote ?
    Can they see into the future perhaps.

    Desperate reffa thread, of which there are too many.
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    contrariancontrarian Posts: 1,475
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    I don't know whether to vote or not mainly because I am undecided about whom I should vote for!

    Vote yes and at least you can say you not only voted but made a positive statement :)
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    jlp95bwfcjlp95bwfc Posts: 18,415
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    I don't know whether to vote or not mainly because I am undecided about whom I should vote for!

    Vote no then as you clearly aren't desperate for things to change ;).
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    exlordlucanexlordlucan Posts: 35,375
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    That's extreme atheism.

    :D:D
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    exlordlucanexlordlucan Posts: 35,375
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    Centaurion wrote: »
    How does the OP know how many people will not vote ?
    Can they see into the future perhaps.

    Desperate reffa thread, of which there are too many.
    I'm inclined to believe that some will not vote rather than assume they all will like you.
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    jrajra Posts: 48,325
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    shackfan wrote: »
    This is the most important vote in any of our lifetimes. It could totally change the make up of the UK and separately, Scotland. I can't think of a valid reason why anyone would NOT want to vote. So if you are eligible and don't want vote..... Why?

    Yeah, but I'm not eligible to vote and I reckon I should be able to if I want to, as I'm a born and bred UK citizen.

    After all, Scottish independence will affect the whole of the UK, I fear, although I wish it wouldn't.
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    MonsterMunch99MonsterMunch99 Posts: 2,475
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    If people don't feel like they can make a decision, or don't care about the outcome, it's better they don't vote than voting for one side or the other just for the sake of it.

    Otherwise, they are just diluting the votes of those people who do actually make an informed choice or one they feel passionately about. Obviously, as high a turnout as possible is desirable, but it should be an informed turnout.
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    stoatiestoatie Posts: 78,106
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    If people don't feel like they can make a decision, or don't care about the outcome, it's better they don't vote than voting for one side or the other just for the sake of it.

    Otherwise, they are just diluting the votes of those people who do actually make an informed choice or one they feel passionately about. Obviously, as high a turnout as possible is desirable, but it should be an informed turnout.

    Yeah, I tend to think that people who don't care SHOULDN'T vote. The answer to low voter turnouts isn't to encourage people to vote, it's to encourage them to care. Then they'll vote anyway.

    But yeah, looks like this one will be a good turnout! Because an awful lot of people DO care!
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    vosnevosne Posts: 14,131
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    contrarian wrote: »
    Vote yes and at least you can say you not only voted but made a positive statement :)

    Lol...bit weak, but you are still making me laugh :D
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    uniqueunique Posts: 12,443
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    shackfan wrote: »
    This is the most important vote in any of our lifetimes. It could totally change the make up of the UK and separately, Scotland. I can't think of a valid reason why anyone would NOT want to vote. So if you are eligible and don't want vote..... Why?

    some people don't fully know or understand the implications of the vote. these people are the residents of scotland who have a right to vote, and those too young to vote

    from this, some people have made up their mind to choose one option or the other, and some people haven't, so it comes down to why vote for something you don't understand or believe in

    however for anyone undecided there is one simple choice which is to vote "no". unless you clearly want an irreversible change with no going back, which forces a great number of people into changes they don't want to make (which based on polls appears to be approximately half the population of scotland). a vote for "no" is the best overall not just for scotland, but the entire UK. a vote for "no" means life will go on relatively the same as it's doing now, with no-one forced to make changes they don't want to make, with no adverse economic reactions, and in regards to those who want independence, they won't be forced to make any changes they don't want to make either, they will simply see a dream not come true. so a vote for "no" is a win win situation for everyone

    so if you are undecided, instead of that vote going to waste, vote "no" unless you are 100% committed to what independence will bring on everyone, including millions of people in scotland, uk and the rest of the world, who simply don't want it, at least not now. that leaves scotland able to choose again in the future, so leaves greater choice than a vote for independence which offers no return

    as far as i'm concerned, as this is a vote to split the country up, it should have a vote that requires the majority of the entire population of scotland at least (if the rest of the UK isn't allowed to participate) to vote for separation for it to happen, otherwise that decision is made by a minority. however as that is not the case, and a minority of people could vote to split for good, it's important that everyone who does not specifically and 100% back independence votes against it by voting "no" so the majority aren't forced to make changes as a result of a minority

    on the other hand of course, if the vote shows an overwhelming majority of the entire population of scotland has specifically chosen that change, then fair enough. however unfortunately if polls reflect reality, that doesn't seem to be the case at all
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    renard grisrenard gris Posts: 1,038
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    Centaurion wrote: »
    Desperate reffa thread, of which there are too many.

    If you think it's bad now, just wait until Thursday/Friday!
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    MonsterMunch99MonsterMunch99 Posts: 2,475
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    unique wrote: »
    as far as i'm concerned, as this is a vote to split the country up, it should have a vote that requires the majority of the entire population of scotland at least (if the rest of the UK isn't allowed to participate) to vote for separation for it to happen, otherwise that decision is made by a minority. however as that is not the case, and a minority of people could vote to split for good, it's important that everyone who does not specifically and 100% back independence votes against it by voting "no" so the majority aren't forced to make changes as a result of a minority

    Everybody has the opportunity to vote. That's the key thing and the reason why a majority turnout is not and should not be required. If people don't vote, then their opinion either way is irrelevant.
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    stoatiestoatie Posts: 78,106
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    unique wrote: »
    some people don't fully know or understand the implications of the vote. these people are the residents of scotland who have a right to vote, and those too young to vote

    from this, some people have made up their mind to choose one option or the other, and some people haven't, so it comes down to why vote for something you don't understand or believe in

    however for anyone undecided there is one simple choice which is to vote "no". unless you clearly want an irreversible change with no going back, which forces a great number of people into changes they don't want to make (which based on polls appears to be approximately half the population of scotland). a vote for "no" is the best overall not just for scotland, but the entire UK. a vote for "no" means life will go on relatively the same as it's doing now, with no-one forced to make changes they don't want to make, with no adverse economic reactions, and in regards to those who want independence, they won't be forced to make any changes they don't want to make either, they will simply see a dream not come true. so a vote for "no" is a win win situation for everyone

    so if you are undecided, instead of that vote going to waste, vote "no" unless you are 100% committed to what independence will bring on everyone, including millions of people in scotland, uk and the rest of the world, who simply don't want it, at least not now. that leaves scotland able to choose again in the future, so leaves greater choice than a vote for independence which offers no return

    as far as i'm concerned, as this is a vote to split the country up, it should have a vote that requires the majority of the entire population of scotland at least (if the rest of the UK isn't allowed to participate) to vote for separation for it to happen, otherwise that decision is made by a minority. however as that is not the case, and a minority of people could vote to split for good, it's important that everyone who does not specifically and 100% back independence votes against it by voting "no" so the majority aren't forced to make changes as a result of a minority

    on the other hand of course, if the vote shows an overwhelming majority of the entire population of scotland has specifically chosen that change, then fair enough. however unfortunately if polls reflect reality, that doesn't seem to be the case at all

    "Not having a strong opinion either way" doesn't equate to "prefers the status quo".
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    stoatiestoatie Posts: 78,106
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    Mind you, the flipside of that is that if I had a vote, I'd vote "yes" just out of curiosity, and I'm not sure that's a good enough reason.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 288
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    I don't know whether to vote or not mainly because I am undecided about whom I should vote for!

    For anyone undecided this BBC interview from yesterday captures perfectly why you should vote Yes. :)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmAKnchI3ek
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    jrajra Posts: 48,325
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    For anyone undecided this BBC interview from yesterday captures perfectly why you should vote Yes. :)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmAKnchI3ek

    Just like your user name was a corrupt businessman in Trading Places. So, we should trust you on your word. :p
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    LostFoolLostFool Posts: 90,662
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    Remember that this isn't a vote for Scots, it is for people in Scotland who are entitled to vote and that includes other British people, those from other EU countries and some Commonwealth citizens. Some of those may not feel that it isn't their business to vote, especially if they are only there for a few years.
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    Gordie1Gordie1 Posts: 6,993
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    what time and day will we know by?, will we know by 8am friday morning for example?
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