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Scottish Referendum, one week on and....
maidinscotland
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So it's 7 days since the referendum here's some stuff that's happened since then...
1- Cameron backtracks on extra powers for Scotland about 5 hours after the no vote
2- the oil that was going to run out in 20 years is now gonna last 120 years, the Clair field alone will produce 120k barrels a day
3- the NHS that was perfectly fine (according to labour) 7 days ago is now being privatised with labour urging for help to save it
4- plans for the Barnett formula to be scrapped
5- spending to be cut in Scotland
6- Fracking given the green light in Scotland....yippee!
7- Child benefits frozen
8- Pension age rising to 70
9- Benefits ban for under 25's
And number 10 best of all we get to follow America into another war!! Happy days!
1- Cameron backtracks on extra powers for Scotland about 5 hours after the no vote
2- the oil that was going to run out in 20 years is now gonna last 120 years, the Clair field alone will produce 120k barrels a day
3- the NHS that was perfectly fine (according to labour) 7 days ago is now being privatised with labour urging for help to save it
4- plans for the Barnett formula to be scrapped
5- spending to be cut in Scotland
6- Fracking given the green light in Scotland....yippee!
7- Child benefits frozen
8- Pension age rising to 70
9- Benefits ban for under 25's
And number 10 best of all we get to follow America into another war!! Happy days!
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11. The losing "Yes" camp are still moaning about the result. Your fellow countrymen and women outvoted you. Take it on the chin and move on.
The NO voters were conned and it makes me sick
Or they saw through Salmond's inability to spell out alternatives to what he had originally planned when he was told no chance, and then dismissed anything as scaremongering and bullying and that Scotland would get its own way.
Sensible people tend to see through megalomaniacs and those who cannot give a clear indication of what their plans are and how it will be paid for. His whole campaign was based on nationalistic pride and romantics and was hellbent on independence at any cost. Fortunately, he failed, and rightly so, as if you don't give coherent and compelling enough reasons, then people won't vote for you.
At least you got to vote. Most of us aren't deemed worthy.
Whereas Cloud Cuckoo Land Salmond and his land of flowing milk and honey was totally honest right? Nobody knows how much oil is in Clair or how difficult and expensive it will be to extract, the YES side simply wanted to con people into believing that Scotland's future was rosy without any proof. Salmond's insistence that there'd be no problem with the EU, NATO, currency union etc were also cons. So stop trying to pretend that only the NO side voters were conned.
Your bitterness at losing is really quite sad. It genuinely is time to move on.
Or as a lady on Question Time last night stated (paraphrased as I can't remember it verbatim!)
"I voted no a week ago, and despite what everyone is trying to make out about how it was these promises that made me vote no, it was nothing to do with that and I would STILL vote NO now".
To be in favour of Scottish independence does not automatically make you a supporter of Salmond and the SNP
Many people voted Yes last week who have never voted for the SNP and never will
This concept seems very difficult for some to grasp but that is the truth
Perhaps Scotland needed someone better running the campaign then, as the politician heading up this one was pretty dire. Who was the alternative frontman the country had to spearhead it?
It really should have been a UK-wide referendum to secure a majority large enough to remove all doubt.
Pah, no they weren't. This is just the excuse your camp came up with for losing. And it was bandied about months before the actual vote took place.
Perish the thought that your own countrymen and women actually voted with some intelligence and forethought and didn't want to back something built on empty promises. You and people like you do them a great disservice by suggesting they weren't intelligent enough not to be conned.
This is the thing that YES fail to realise, apart from one probably rogue poll from Yougov they were never ahead in the polling. People were almost certainly going to vote no anyway. The idea that the only reason Scots voted NO is because they were duped and conned is incredibly insulting and YES are not doing themselves any favours by pretending that was the reason independence failed. How dare maidinscotland feel so free to denigrate her fellow citizens.
It's time to unite the country but the bitterness being displayed by YES is simply making things worse.
Well for that one lady I have seen many others saying they would vote YES knowing what they know now...
Nicola Sturgeon. Hopefully we see another referendum in 2020 with a YES result.
BIB - This is exactly what they DID though as the last week has proven.
You cling onto that notion, that only you and the other YES voters knew best. You lot were always going to do that, so it doesn't really surprise me to be honest.
Oh please, you have given Westminster less than a week to act and they're not even sitting properly yet. This is yet another example of the YES side's cloud cuckoo land thinking. you lost the vote, you don't get to set the agenda.
As for 2020, yet more nonsensical dreaming. Or was Alec Salmond lying when he said it was a once in a lifetime opportunity?
You are being hugely disrespectful to fellow Scots who voted no. How dare you assume that only your opinion is valid.
I'd leave it until at least 2040. That way you can ensure that all the treacherous old people who voted no will definitely be dead and buried.
Alex Salmond was the leader of the SNP and the First Minister of Scotland and so was naturally the leader of the Yes campaign
Not sure why you say he was pretty dire considering he was up against the three main parties, virtually all the media and the backing of his chums in the City whom he has taken very good care of
If you think the campaign was that dire then have a look at the increase of membership to the SNP and the opinion polls for the next General Election
However, it will be interesting to see what happens in the near future in the whole of the UK.
Hopefully the English people sit up and take notice and get more involved The really positive thing that has happened through the referendum debate is that many more are now engaged in politics and asking questions of their masters
Politicians are there to represent us so lets work them hard We pay for them so get your moneys worth
He was pretty dire as he couldn't even defeat a lacklustre better together campaign and convince his fellow countrymen to leave the UK. It's abject failure, however you choose to spin it. This is why he had no choice but to fall on his sword as he banked his entire political life on this moment and was so cocksure, he ended up with egg on his face when people in Scotland realised he was talking in pipe dreams.
Sounds very much like the definition of a loser to me - and a sore one at that.
You'd never know it happened in most of the country.
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