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6 Month Old Baby Girl Killed In Dog Attack

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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 8,510
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    TWS wrote: »
    dogs don't think like that you are attaching human emotions to an animal.

    Anybody who says that has never owned a dog
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    Tom_TitTom_Tit Posts: 6,336
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    TWS wrote: »
    Not in the same way as people they don't. That's why some people are bad dog owners as they think of them as people not animals.

    Rubbish.

    Dogs get jealous, get angry, get shy, get aggressive etc. All things that humans get. It's how the owners react and deal with these things which is the problem.
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    TWSTWS Posts: 9,307
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    Anybody who says that has never owned a dog

    Owned plenty thanks
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    benjaminibenjamini Posts: 32,066
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    Tick the appropriate response..


    1, dogs should be culled, banned , illegal

    2, dogs should have a licence and be muzzled in public. On a lead at all times.

    3, dogs are great pets but should be supervised at all times, especially around children .

    4, my dog would never ever harm a hair on a child's head, I trust it implicitly.

    5, dogs are superior to humans and should be treated in that way. People should keep their children under control at all times.
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    BellaRosaBellaRosa Posts: 36,576
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    Jefferson wrote: »
    There should be a mass cull of dogs.

    Along with a cull of bad dog owners.
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    TWSTWS Posts: 9,307
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    Tom_Tit wrote: »
    Rubbish.

    Dogs get jealous, get angry, get shy, get aggressive etc. All things that humans get. It's how the owners react and deal with these things which is the problem.

    No they don't they resource guard, as for shy or aggressive they are both socialisation, lack of training or another canine reason for the behaviour displayed not a human reason they are not human, they cannot rationalise situations like humans which is where all these bites and attacks stem from lack of knowledge of canine behaviour
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 2,376
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    housegirl wrote: »
    Will wait and see what sort of dog, my son had a wonsderful staffy children loved her and she loved them, they lost her a few weeks back. They allso have a six year old British bull terrier, such a wonderful dog. I really do think it is the owner not the dogs.

    Sadly not, we have a lovely woman near us in her 60s who has a staffy who strains on the leash and growls and spits saliver at any passing dog or puppy , when its being walked around. She can barely hold it back which is scary in itself. I don't understand why people keep dogs that want to attack anything that walks past.
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    lemonbunlemonbun Posts: 5,371
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    TWS wrote: »
    No they don't they resource guard, as for shy or aggressive they are both socialisation, lack of training or another canine reason for the behaviour displayed not a human reason they are not human, they cannot rationalise situations like humans which is where all these bites and attacks stem from lack of knowledge of canine behaviour

    None of my rescues has ever done resource guarding because I feed them by hand from day one and have my hand in their bowl before they do. I'm a free feeder and it works.

    Being bitten by an off lead Akita, who had attacked many others, made my lovely dogs passive aggressive to many other dogs.
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    jabegyjabegy Posts: 6,201
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    Why on earth was a baby left alone with a dog. I wouldn't dream of leaving my two year old grandson alone with my cat, who isn't spiteful at all but she is very big, so could potentially cause some damage.
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    Keiō LineKeiō Line Posts: 12,979
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    Neighbour Denise Dodd, herself a dog owner, told BBC Look East: "It's terrible. A dog must know its place and always be kept there. I love my dog but she has to know we're the boss of her.
    What a f*ck wit

    This is the stupid talk that results in people being attacked. I would suggest if you have to demonstrate to the dog "you are the boss", it is a dangerous dog.
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    EspressoEspresso Posts: 18,047
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    Keiō Line wrote: »
    What a f*ck wit

    This is the stupid talk that results in people being attacked. I would suggest if you have to demonstrate to the dog "you are the boss", it is a dangerous dog.

    Not really. If you have trained your dog properly, there is no question of who's the boss. The dog knows it's you. So it comes when you call it, sits when you tell it and doesn't drag your arm off and go after other dogs and kids when its on the lead.

    Any dog can be trained to behave.
    It takes a responsible dog owner to know that and to know how to do it. Too many people who own dogs aren't responsible enough to be in charge of a Jelly Tot, never mind a dog.
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    tim59tim59 Posts: 47,188
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    Keiō Line wrote: »
    What a f*ck wit

    This is the stupid talk that results in people being attacked. I would suggest if you have to demonstrate to the dog "you are the boss", it is a dangerous dog.

    Dogs like children have to be taught right from wrong and what is acceptable and what is not acceptable, if humans are not born knowing this how do you expect a dog to know this. In humans we call this teaching, in animals we call it traning,
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    HeartacheHeartache Posts: 4,299
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    Tom_Tit wrote: »
    Of course dogs have emotions.

    I work with a deaf guy, who has one working hearing dog, and one retired, they are both small poodles and he brings them both to work. And while we cannot fuss over the working dog, we equally can't do this with the older dog, as the working one gets jealous and will snap at the other, if she gets one to one attention.
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    Miss XYZMiss XYZ Posts: 14,023
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    Alexis07 wrote: »
    Sadly not, we have a lovely woman near us in her 60s who has a staffy who strains on the leash and growls and spits saliver at any passing dog or puppy , when its being walked around. She can barely hold it back which is scary in itself. I don't understand why people keep dogs that want to attack anything that walks past.

    I agree. I once attended an open day and dog show at a local dogs home and took my dog. My dog is a staffie cross btw. A woman and her son were approaching and the son was holding their dog's lead. Their dog was a very small breed. As we got closer I could see the woman warning her son to be careful of my dog then within a couple of seconds their dog starting growling and barking at mine! They had to pull it back because it was really going for my dog, who incidentally was trying to get away from theirs. Like you say, it's hard to understand why people keep dogs that want to attack anything that walks past.

    Also, the dog we had when I was in my teens was a staffie cross aswell. One day when my Mum was walking her, she was savagely attacked by two Springer Spaniels (the dog, not my Mum). My Mum had been walking around a local field with her and the two dogs ran over and started going for her. Her leg was badly damaged and she had to have operations on it, but it never fully healed. ANY breed of dog can be vicious.
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    HotgossipHotgossip Posts: 22,385
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    http://www.edp24.co.uk/news/crime/dog_owner_fights_two_english_bull_terriers_off_his_pet_at_wells_beach_1_3794357

    This happened on a local beach last weekend. Totally irresponsible owners to let strong dogs like that even be off the lead in a public place.

    A witness to the attack was on the radio the other day and he went and told the woman the same and she just kept saying "they're rescue dogs, they've never done this before."

    How stupid to allow dogs off the lead which are rescued and you probably know nothing about their background.

    Thank goodness the poor little dog is expected to make a full recovery.
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    valkayvalkay Posts: 15,728
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    According to todays paper, it was a Pit Bull, and the Grandmother lives with them. There are some Psychics on here.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 8,510
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    Keiō Line wrote: »
    What a f*ck wit

    This is the stupid talk that results in people being attacked. I would suggest if you have to demonstrate to the dog "you are the boss", it is a dangerous dog.

    My friends Jack Russell has not been trained, is spoilt and basically "owns" the household... growls when the children are shown affection by the parents and.... eats at the table :o:o:o As a result they have spoilt this dog to behave much as a spoilt child

    Ive had Spaniels and Schnauzers all my life, all have been trained and not spoilt. None have snapped or attacked. My collie however I had to get rid of because it wasn't child friendly regardless of how much training
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 2,372
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    Dogs can get jealous. You can bet money that this dog kept in a tiny flat wasn't walk other then just around the block for a wee. Probably done nothing other then stare at the four walls it was in. This is what is wrong with most staffy/pit owners.
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    HotgossipHotgossip Posts: 22,385
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    housegirl wrote: »
    Will wait and see what sort of dog, my son had a wonsderful staffy children loved her and she loved them, they lost her a few weeks back. They allso have a six year old British bull terrier, such a wonderful dog. I really do think it is the owner not the dogs.

    "It's the owner not the dogs" is something we hear over and over again.
    However a lot of these staffie, bulldog, bull terrier type dogs are passed around from home to home, often because people can't cope with them or they show aggression.

    People think they are kind by taking them in but I honestly believe in many cases it would be better to have them put down. I say this as a dog owner who has had dogs all my life.

    A relative of mine rehomed a staffie and it is a nightmare. She cannot let it off the lead in public as it launches itself at other dogs and pins them to the ground. It is a very strong dog but is left for very long period on it's own which I don't think is fair at all. She also has a very tiny garden with no room to exercise it. That should never have been rehomed to her .... Some charities just don't care as long as the dog is gone from their care.

    I also meet another woman on my dog walks who has a rescue staffie and it spins round and round barking like mad if it meets people or dogs, nearly pulling her off her feet. She obviously thinks she's doing it some big favour but what a life.
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    2shy20072shy2007 Posts: 52,579
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    valkay wrote: »
    According to todays paper, it was a Pit Bull, and the Grandmother lives with them. There are some Psychics on here.

    So a banned breed then?
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    SemillionSemillion Posts: 612
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    Grouty wrote: »
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-northamptonshire-29491535

    Absolutely terrible, RIP little girl, condolences to all family and friends. :cry:

    I feel for the loss of the little girl but always find it hard to feel for the adults in these situations except for feeling anger at them. They are ultimately responsible for these horrific events because they make all the choices and don't engage brain or commonsense when they do. Obviously the dog concerned was of a type that the owner could not control when the need arose i.e large and powerful and it is known that they kept two large powerful dogs in a flat with a baby in residence. Absolute stupidity and now the inevitable has happened.
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    Hotgossip wrote: »
    "It's the owner not the dogs" is something we hear over and over again.
    However a lot of these staffie, bulldog, bull terrier type dogs are passed around from home to home, often because people can't cope with them or they show aggression.

    People think they are kind by taking them in but I honestly believe in many cases it would be better to have them put down. I say this as a dog owner who has had dogs all my life.

    A relative of mine rehomed a staffie and it is a nightmare. She cannot let it off the lead in public as it launches itself at other dogs and pins them to the ground. It is a very strong dog but is left for very long period on it's own which I don't think is fair at all. She also has a very tiny garden with no room to exercise it. That should never have been rehomed to her .... Some charities just don't care as long as the dog is gone from their care.

    I also meet another woman on my dog walks who has a rescue staffie and it spins round and round barking like mad if it meets people or dogs, nearly pulling her off her feet. She obviously thinks she's doing it some big favour but what a life.

    It was a pitbull not a staffy. Completely different breed.

    Also staffies are passed from home to home usually because they are energetic dogs and people can't be arsed to walk them or because they are not as aggressive as they wanted. Not because they are aggressive it's the complete opposite.
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    2shy20072shy2007 Posts: 52,579
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    This will end in a pretty hefty prison sentence then if it was a banned breed. who in their right mind would want to keep such a creature? a creature created by man for their selfish and evil 'sport'
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    2shy20072shy2007 Posts: 52,579
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    It was a pitbull not a staffy. Completely different breed.

    Also staffies are passed from home to home usually because they are energetic dogs and people can't be arsed to walk them or because they are not as aggressive as they wanted. Not because they are aggressive it's the complete opposite.

    Our Burberry loving neighbour has a staffy, it is ( or was) a solid lump of muscle, but he doesnt walk the dog very often so mow it is an extremely overweight lump of muscle. so sad to see :(
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 8,510
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    It was a pitbull not a staffy. Completely different breed.

    Also staffies are passed from home to home usually because they are energetic dogs and people can't be arsed to walk them or because they are not as aggressive as they wanted. Not because they are aggressive it's the complete opposite.

    The poster included bull type dogs, and I couldn't agree more, I knew before I read the article that it wouldn't be a poodle
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