Do you mean because UKIP have suddenly become so successful ?
No, I don't think so. It's more about people becoming increasingly disillusioned with politics and the three main (or formerly main with regard to Lib Dems) parties. But UKIP haven't really stated their position on most issues, when they do have to come out in the open a lot of their current supporters will find their views unpalatable.
If so how does this sit within different regions of the UK?
No way. Go to France with 25% of voters voting for the National Front. Or Eastern Europe where if you don't have a white face in some cities, you are made to feel very uneasy.
This country is tremendously tolerant. What is annoying people is the unlimited unfettered immigration that has been allowed over the last decade and a half. Even some immigrants are now saying there are too many people here.
I'm not so sure. The right-wing agenda is based around fear of multiple things being peddled in the media, and gullible people believing everything they see and hear (and not necessarily those who are normally right-wing sympathisers). Fear sells things. When people are worried they go out and buy things to make themselves happier. It's more to do with corporatism than any particular point on the political compass.
What I do find interesting are the parallels with history i.e. wherever an economic downturn has been caused by reckless speculation and inappropriate behaviour in the banking system, the dialogue always shifts round to it being caused by some kind of internal/external 'enemy' who previously no-one actually gave two hoots about.
In a way, it's kind of interesting to watch it play out and the partnerships that help to shift the narrative. In another way it's sad because it demonstrates the fundamental stupidity of large swathes of the population.
Close this thread and start a duplicate with a poll. The UK is miles away from being anywhere close to right wing. We are light years behind Switzerland, France, Austria, Ukraine etc.. We are a country where tax payers dish out for muslim schools and weirdos like Diane Abbott get airtime non-stop to talk about evil 'whites'..
I'm not so sure. The right-wing agenda is based around fear of multiple things being peddled in the media, and gullible people believing everything they see and hear (and not necessarily those who are normally right-wing sympathisers). Fear sells things. When people are worried they go out and buy things to make themselves happier. It's more to do with corporatism than any particular point on the political compass.
What I do find interesting are the parallels with history i.e. wherever an economic downturn has been caused by reckless speculation and inappropriate behaviour in the banking system, the dialogue always shifts round to it being caused by some kind of internal/external 'enemy' who previously no-one actually gave two hoots about.
In a way, it's kind of interesting to watch it play out and the partnerships that help to shift the narrative. In another way it's sad because it demonstrates the fundamental stupidity of large swathes of the population.
I think you have put it very succinctly. Although our downturn was caused by 'errors in banking', our enemy is 'Islam'. It is interesting to watch and academically very predictable.
The French have been more reactionary for years and have always had a far right element. Look at how easily the government capitulated in WW2. (Not to denegrate in any way the proud efforts if the resistance - whom my great Uncle worked with).
Close this thread and start a duplicate with a poll. The UK is miles away from being anywhere close to right wing. We are light years behind Switzerland, France, Austria, etc
Close this thread and start a duplicate with a poll. The UK is miles away from being anywhere close to right wing. We are light years behind Switzerland, France, Austria, Ukraine etc.. We are a country where tax payers dish out for muslim schools and weirdos like Diane Abbott get airtime non-stop to talk about evil 'whites'..
Switzerland, where 80% of the national football team (who are popular - is foreign).
So what is your ethnicity? I'm French/Irish/Scots/German. I suppose you can trace your family tree back to Alfred the Great. Almost everyone in this land is an immigrant, we are a mongrel race. If views like those that you are espousing are in any way representative then, yes, we are in danger of being the most right wing nation in Europe. May I recommend Filosofem or Vargsmal by Varg Vikernes. You would love those books.
Switzerland, where 80% of the national football team (who are popular - is foreign).
Yea, and they are still voting through direct democracy to halt immigration to Switzerland. Does that make your head hurt?
So what is your ethnicity? I'm French/Irish/Scots/German. I suppose you can trace your family tree back to Alfred the Great.
My advice to you is not to suppose anything again. You are exceptionally shit at it. ;-)
Almost everyone in this land is an immigrant, we are a mongrel race. If views like those that you are espousing are in any way representative then, yes, we are in danger of being the most right wing nation in Europe. May I recommend Filosofem or Vargsmal by Varg Vikernes. You would love those books.
It is not about disturbed liberal views that stopping immigrants means humans are filthy nazis deep down inside. It is something for more simple than that. Something a stupid liberal drone could not comprehend if the survival of his teenage copy of Marx: The Communist Manifesto (Cliff notes) depended on it..
A small, overpopulated island with 2 million unemployed and trillions of pounds in debt does not need more immigrants - that is just a Ponzi scheme solution. What the UK needs is to make sure it can function with the vast population it already has first. Then, when close to everyone has a job and a home and the country is not ...trillions in debt... we can think about the liberal demented wet dream of open borders until the UK in 1000 years time, is just one big suburb of London.
I suggest you bring as many bulgarians and romanians, especially those that have not even shelf-stacking skills into this country, because we need those.
'is miles away' reads differently to 'years away' or is 'not likely to'. Miles away implies current tense.
Think before you post.
If something is miles away, (ie: your personal imagined hell of UKIP winning some seats and turning the UK into 1930s Germany..) it is not suddenly going to make the UK the most right wing country in Europe, because as we stand..present tense... we are miles away from that point (future predictive).
Learn to read and question your own intelligence, this is embarrassing for me having to go through this with you without getting paid for the chore. Educating faux outraged liberals should come at a premium it is so mind numbing.
Ed gets upset when you bring his father up. his father was so proud to be british he wanted to change just about everything about it. Milliband Snr was a ****ing trator, Ed is a hopeless manipulative social engineering ****.
If something is miles away, (ie: your personal imagined hell of UKIP winning some seats and turning the UK into 1930s Germany..) it is not suddenly going to make the UK the most right wing country in Europe, because as we stand..present tense... we are miles away from that point (future predictive).
Learn to read and question your own intelligence, this is embarrassing for me having to go through this with you without getting paid for the chore. Educating faux outraged liberals should come at a premium it is so mind numbing.
You know what? Come back to me when you can answer a question about your own ethnicity. Come back to me when you have your DPhil, BSc Anthropology and Masters in English lit. A BSc in Mental Health Nursing too. Hardly faux educated. come back to me when you are less full of insults. Your definition of future predictive is incorrect in the context you used used the phrase. 'Miles away from that point' is stating current staus. Currently we are 'miles away from that point'.
come back to me when you have a M.Eng from a leading British Uni, and an MSc from a top 5 (world) university. Then come back to me once you have bothered to take on an MBA from a top 5.
Otherwise bury your head back into your ****ing borrow.
come back to me when you have a M.Eng from a leading British Uni, and an MSc from a top 5 (world) university. Then come back to me once you have bothered to take on an MBA from a top 5.
Otherwise bury your head back into your ****ing borrow.
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No, I don't think so. It's more about people becoming increasingly disillusioned with politics and the three main (or formerly main with regard to Lib Dems) parties. But UKIP haven't really stated their position on most issues, when they do have to come out in the open a lot of their current supporters will find their views unpalatable.
No way. Go to France with 25% of voters voting for the National Front. Or Eastern Europe where if you don't have a white face in some cities, you are made to feel very uneasy.
This country is tremendously tolerant. What is annoying people is the unlimited unfettered immigration that has been allowed over the last decade and a half. Even some immigrants are now saying there are too many people here.
What I do find interesting are the parallels with history i.e. wherever an economic downturn has been caused by reckless speculation and inappropriate behaviour in the banking system, the dialogue always shifts round to it being caused by some kind of internal/external 'enemy' who previously no-one actually gave two hoots about.
In a way, it's kind of interesting to watch it play out and the partnerships that help to shift the narrative. In another way it's sad because it demonstrates the fundamental stupidity of large swathes of the population.
I think you have put it very succinctly. Although our downturn was caused by 'errors in banking', our enemy is 'Islam'. It is interesting to watch and academically very predictable.
The French have been more reactionary for years and have always had a far right element. Look at how easily the government capitulated in WW2. (Not to denegrate in any way the proud efforts if the resistance - whom my great Uncle worked with).
The thread is titled 'in danger of', not 'is'.
Having said that though, in Poland it's more to do with race and ethnicity than immigration, or the cynic in me says that's the reason everywhere.
Both nations however can be quite left-wing when it comes to mode of government, so the whole left-right paradigm isn't the relevant thing here.
Yes, learn to read. I said our country is miles away from being anything like a right wing country. Work on your tenses...;-)
Switzerland, where 80% of the national football team (who are popular - is foreign).
So what is your ethnicity? I'm French/Irish/Scots/German. I suppose you can trace your family tree back to Alfred the Great. Almost everyone in this land is an immigrant, we are a mongrel race. If views like those that you are espousing are in any way representative then, yes, we are in danger of being the most right wing nation in Europe. May I recommend Filosofem or Vargsmal by Varg Vikernes. You would love those books.
Think before you post.
Yea, and they are still voting through direct democracy to halt immigration to Switzerland. Does that make your head hurt?
My advice to you is not to suppose anything again. You are exceptionally shit at it. ;-)
It is not about disturbed liberal views that stopping immigrants means humans are filthy nazis deep down inside. It is something for more simple than that. Something a stupid liberal drone could not comprehend if the survival of his teenage copy of Marx: The Communist Manifesto (Cliff notes) depended on it..
A small, overpopulated island with 2 million unemployed and trillions of pounds in debt does not need more immigrants - that is just a Ponzi scheme solution. What the UK needs is to make sure it can function with the vast population it already has first. Then, when close to everyone has a job and a home and the country is not ...trillions in debt... we can think about the liberal demented wet dream of open borders until the UK in 1000 years time, is just one big suburb of London.
If something is miles away, (ie: your personal imagined hell of UKIP winning some seats and turning the UK into 1930s Germany..) it is not suddenly going to make the UK the most right wing country in Europe, because as we stand..present tense... we are miles away from that point (future predictive).
Learn to read and question your own intelligence, this is embarrassing for me having to go through this with you without getting paid for the chore. Educating faux outraged liberals should come at a premium it is so mind numbing.
You know what? Come back to me when you can answer a question about your own ethnicity. Come back to me when you have your DPhil, BSc Anthropology and Masters in English lit. A BSc in Mental Health Nursing too. Hardly faux educated. come back to me when you are less full of insults. Your definition of future predictive is incorrect in the context you used used the phrase. 'Miles away from that point' is stating current staus. Currently we are 'miles away from that point'.
Otherwise bury your head back into your ****ing borrow.
Edinburgh good enough for your purposes?
I did a few months there.
One of the top Uni's worldwide when I did my DPhil. No interest in doing an MBA.
last i looked it was about 25 in the lists. I said top 5.
Great for the soft sciences.
This is why we have a political class full of ****ing morons.
Who is we? How far back do you want to go?