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    hackjohackjo Posts: 648
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    Not in Inverness no. It was pies, beans, chips, fish, crap curry, shepherds pie, etc.

    I was in a cell with 17 Muslims in Rome (18 to a large cell) and they didn't drink. Every tasty pasta dinner came with a small half litre carton of wine. 9 litres of wine everyday made me feel like I was only there for a few hours. :D

    Now there's a deal! :-)
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    Speak-SoftlySpeak-Softly Posts: 24,737
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    neelia wrote: »
    Why would they be anymore attention seeking than anyone else confiding about a very distressing problem they had?
    Soundbox wrote: »
    I would ask them are they telling me because they would like some advice and if so I would do my best to help them.

    You think it works like that?
    Very naive.

    People don't tell random other people because they want advice, they want sympathy and understanding.

    If they truly wanted advice they would go to somebody qualified to offer it.
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    The MartianThe Martian Posts: 1,610
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    hackjo wrote: »
    Now there's a deal! :-)

    It really was. I think the wine I couldn't drink was used to hold up one of the lower bunks when I left. :D

    Those Muslims guys I shared the cell with were really great, I'll never forgot them. They were all Tunisian and were inside for selling Hash. I had so many places to score, by the time I was released I had forgotten half of them and still had too many.

    The big guy, Nabil that helped me to the toilet when I needed to vomit even fixed me up with a Moroccan guy that lived in a caravan on the outskirts of Milan.

    Made a lifelong friend there. We play WoW in the same guild today after meeting him in Milan over 4 years ago. He returned home with his fortune a few months after I came back here. :)
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    kitty86kitty86 Posts: 7,034
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    neelia wrote: »
    In the process of listening to this and it is fascinating and very inspiring. It was great that the victims of child abuse befriended him online. These people need to be able to tell their stories and get support.

    I couldn't listen to it because I have no headphones but I did read the linked article about Adam* what made my blood run cold was the knowledge that one of these paedophiles is a pre school teacher, to me that is very wrong and that person is very sick. To know you have that attraction and to then work with children is wrong.
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    Pisces CloudPisces Cloud Posts: 30,240
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    I think it would be wiser to just keep it quiet. If advice is needed then visit the doctor. This is regards to someone who's not going to act on their urges, btw.
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    TrollHunterTrollHunter Posts: 12,496
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    Ask my American uncle who has been in the care of the NDCS for the last 7 years for killing his wifes rapist. Thankfully he is being released next year.
    Yes, that's what your wife needs after being raped, you being locked up for 8 years instead of providing much needed support. Oh well, as long as the 'hero' got to brag about his awesome macho-ness in killing a rapist, that's what's important I guess.

    Oh the irony if, when he was released, his wife had shacked up with someone else and he was left single, lonely, jobless and with a criminal record.
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    SemieroticSemierotic Posts: 11,132
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    I love large breasts and a curvy figured woman over 25. Would I need help or treatment for that?

    Do people who get turned on by skinny teens doing water sports need help?

    It's a sexual attraction, not a mental illness. They don't need help, they need jailed.

    Jailing people for mere attraction? Thank God you're not in charge. We still live in a world where people are charged for acting on said attraction.
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    The MartianThe Martian Posts: 1,610
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    Yes, that's what your wife needs after being raped, you being locked up for 8 years instead of providing much needed support. Oh well, as long as the 'hero' got to brag about his awesome macho-ness in killing a rapist, that's what's important I guess.

    Oh the irony if, when he was released, his wife had shacked up with someone else and he was left single, lonely, jobless and with a criminal record.

    My uncle caught him in the act. If he had gone and hunted him down he wouldn't be getting out until 2028,

    The rest of your post is just junk.
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    neelianeelia Posts: 24,186
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    You think it works like that?
    Very naive.

    People don't tell random other people because they want advice, they want sympathy and understanding.

    If they truly wanted advice they would go to somebody qualified to offer it.

    What's with the "random"? I specified friend or family member,
    Where did I mention wanting advice? Why should someone tortured with attraction to children not want sympathy and understanding in the same way that other people confide their troubles. .

    Also in this case I would imagine that it would be particularly difficult to find and trust anyone qualified to give advice.
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    neelianeelia Posts: 24,186
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    kitty86 wrote: »
    I couldn't listen to it because I have no headphones but I did read the linked article about Adam* what made my blood run cold was the knowledge that one of these paedophiles is a pre school teacher, to me that is very wrong and that person is very sick. To know you have that attraction and to then work with children is wrong.

    I would agree unless you are working with children outside your age of interest.
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    neelianeelia Posts: 24,186
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    I think it would be wiser to just keep it quiet. If advice is needed then visit the doctor. This is regards to someone who's not going to act on their urges, btw.

    Would you trust a doctor in these circumstances.
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    neelianeelia Posts: 24,186
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    Strange to think that at one time a 50 yr old man seducing a 14 yr old girl would be more acceptable and understood in many quarters than being a homosexual - even a homosexual who didn't act on it, The Queen's great great ....... grandfather had sex with his wife and she produced Henry VII at age 13. It was frowned upon by some but he does not seem to be considered disgusting. I find it hard to get my head round.
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    MaxatoriaMaxatoria Posts: 17,980
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    neelia wrote: »
    Strange to think that at one time a 50 yr old man seducing a 14 yr old girl would be more acceptable and understood in many quarters than being a homosexual - even a homosexual who didn't act on it, The Queen's great great ....... grandfather had sex with his wife and she produced Henry VII at age 13. It was frowned upon by some but he does not seem to be considered disgusting. I find it hard to get my head round.

    it was quite common in ancient greece to have a young homosexual lover around 13-14 who would learn from the older man but once he got to a certain age it was over and he'd have to find a wife and start producing the next generation, its hard to put todays moral values on old laws and customs
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    OhWhenTheSaintsOhWhenTheSaints Posts: 12,531
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    It's all very well saying and even knowing that it's immoral to act on it but it's immoral to think it too. How do you know his daemons won't take over and he will act on it?

    Make sure no kids are near him at any time and get him to seek professional help, while still treating him like a human being.
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    The MartianThe Martian Posts: 1,610
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    neelia wrote: »
    Strange.

    The strangest thing for me in this thread is your refusal to answer a simple question.
    If he did eventually go through with it, would you be happy that he had freedom before his heinous act, or would you wish he had been jailed when he suggested he would like to carry out the attack in the first place?

    It's a simple question. Maybe after this 3rd attempt you will provide an answer. Or is that too much to ask?
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    The MartianThe Martian Posts: 1,610
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    It's all very well saying and even knowing that it's immoral to act on it but it's immoral to think it too. How do you know his daemons won't take over and he will act on it?

    Make sure no kids are near him at any time and get him to seek professional help, while still treating him like a human being.

    The devil is in the details.
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    OhWhenTheSaintsOhWhenTheSaints Posts: 12,531
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    If I met a paedophile on fire and I had a glass of water, I would glass him.

    Family member or not.

    I doubt many people would blame you if the person had actually physically done something to a child. But if you mean someone who's just having thoughts about it then it would make you 10 times worse than them
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    The MartianThe Martian Posts: 1,610
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    I doubt many people would blame you if the person had actually physically done something to a child. But if you mean someone who's just having thoughts about it then it would make you 10 times worse than them

    Agreed 100%
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    barbelerbarbeler Posts: 23,827
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    He's probably just making sure he's free to go to the pub instead of being asked to babysit.
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    OhWhenTheSaintsOhWhenTheSaints Posts: 12,531
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    barbeler wrote: »
    He's probably just making sure he's free to go to the pub instead of being asked to babysit.

    LOL Frankie Boyle, is that you?
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    jzeejzee Posts: 25,498
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    neelia wrote: »
    Strange to think that at one time a 50 yr old man seducing a 14 yr old girl would be more acceptable and understood in many quarters than being a homosexual - even a homosexual who didn't act on it, The Queen's great great ....... grandfather had sex with his wife and she produced Henry VII at age 13. It was frowned upon by some but he does not seem to be considered disgusting. I find it hard to get my head round.
    Bear in mind life expectancy was a lot lower then and women & children basically had no rights & did what they were told.
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    Pisces CloudPisces Cloud Posts: 30,240
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    jzee wrote: »
    Bear in mind life expectancy was a lot lower then and women & children basically had no rights & did what they were told.
    Similar to some countries in the world today in which women and children have very little rights. That's when you see child brides and such like. When women have more of a say these things tend to change.
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    Pisces CloudPisces Cloud Posts: 30,240
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    neelia wrote: »
    Would you trust a doctor in these circumstances.

    If I felt alone and needed someone to talk to then I think the doctor would be the best bet to refer me to a specialist. Rather that than risk being ostracised by my friends and family. Doctors are supposed to be confidential.
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    academiaacademia Posts: 18,225
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    neelia wrote: »
    Strange to think that at one time a 50 yr old man seducing a 14 yr old girl would be more acceptable and understood in many quarters than being a homosexual - even a homosexual who didn't act on it, The Queen's great great ....... grandfather had sex with his wife and she produced Henry VII at age 13. It was frowned upon by some but he does not seem to be considered disgusting. I find it hard to get my head round.

    We've moved on a bit since mediaeval times. As a matter of interest, so much damage was done at the birth, Henry's mother was unable to have more children and had a lifelong aversion to sex thereafter. Consummation of these marriages was usually deferred. She was very unlucky in her husband.

    Not that a girl's suffering (or a boy's) ever stoppped a paedophile.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 432
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    I would encourage them to see a therapist. Not necessarily to try and change their attraction (As I am not sure if that is even possible), but to manage their feelings and ensure that they do not act on them. I would guess that having those attractions, knowing and believing that they are wrong, would not be great for self esteem
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