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BBC Local Radio & how they spend the budget!

Westy2Westy2 Posts: 14,555
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Just had a look at Radio Derby, now I can get it again.

Interested to notice a Derby based news bulletin at 10pm.

Last time I caught the East Midlands evening programming, evening news bulletins came from Nottingham.

I thought Bbc Local Radio pleaded poverty thesedays?

If East Midlands can have separate late night news bulletins, why cant the West Midlands stations have separate late night bulletins too, seeing the Late Shows are still regional?
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    connor the judgconnor the judg Posts: 8,961
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    Westy2 wrote: »
    Just had a look at Radio Derby, now I can get it again.

    Interested to notice a Derby based news bulletin at 10pm.

    Last time I caught the East Midlands evening programming, evening news bulletins came from Nottingham.

    I thought Bbc Local Radio pleaded poverty thesedays?

    If East Midlands can have separate late night news bulletins, why cant the West Midlands stations have separate late night bulletins too, seeing the Late Shows are still regional?

    I do agree with some of this. I think BBC WM should have it's own late show (like BBC London) and maybe even other "big stations". I don't get why BBC London gets to broadcast from London for 21 hours a day when others can only do 14 hours.
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    sparrysparry Posts: 2,059
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    I think the late night bullitens are recorded.
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    connor the judgconnor the judg Posts: 8,961
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    sparry wrote: »
    I think the late night bullitens are recorded.
    So what happens when there is a new story that comes in?
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    radioviewerradioviewer Posts: 762
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    BBC Local Radio -
    6am Local Breakfast
    9am NETWORKED MORNING SHOW
    12pm News Show Local
    1pm NETWORKED AFTERNOON SHOW
    4pm Local Drive
    7pm NETWORKED EVENING (as is) OR LOCAL SPORT

    Saturdays/Sundays -
    Local at breakfast, other times networked, either regionally or nationally

    The BBC local radio network is far too big, repetitive (how many discussions of cystitis are required on various local stations?) and takes too much cash.

    the East Midlands could close down Leicester, Derby and Lincolnshire and move to Nottingham, as a super 'hub', having studios in place for all local stations and with reporters / journos out of hired office space in the local cities and environs.
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    reverse_diodereverse_diode Posts: 950
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    OK here I go. Is BBC local radio needed? ILR radio has been been pretty much been made national. I would suggest a Radio 2.5 with local opt-outs for news etc would be sufficient.
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    sparrysparry Posts: 2,059
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    the East Midlands could close down Leicester, Derby and Lincolnshire and move to Nottingham, as a super 'hub', having studios in place for all local stations and with reporters / journos out of hired office space in the local cities and environs.

    But BBC Local Radio is the ONLY local radio we have in the East Midlands.

    The commercial stations are all regional now and all operate their local programmes from Nottingham but all 3 of them are trying to serve the 3 cities of Nottingham, Derby and Leicester, although they are all defined by their music so it's less of an issue.

    Setting up a BBC local hub in Nottingham would just mean that BBC local would probably become as Nottingham centric as the commercial sector and it would lose something not being based in the city it is broadcasting to.

    And in practical terms, its less than 10 years since a lot of money was spent rehousing Radio Leicester so I can't see them giving that up anytime soon.
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    4-4-24-4-2 Posts: 5,413
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    sparry wrote: »
    I think the late night bullitens are recorded.

    I can assure you they are not - they're all live.
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    dpbdpb Posts: 12,031
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    Westy2 wrote: »
    Just had a look at Radio Derby, now I can get it again.

    Interested to notice a Derby based news bulletin at 10pm.

    Last time I caught the East Midlands evening programming, evening news bulletins came from Nottingham.

    I thought Bbc Local Radio pleaded poverty thesedays?

    If East Midlands can have separate late night news bulletins, why cant the West Midlands stations have separate late night bulletins too, seeing the Late Shows are still regional?

    Different managers deciding to spend their budget differently?

    I believe the local evening news bulletins were introduced when the specialist programmes from 7-9 ended in 2010/11. I'm surprised they have lasted given the cuts over the last couple of years but a very good service.
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    80sfan80sfan Posts: 18,522
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    Out of the East Midlands cities, I remember from when I lived in the area, Derby always used to get the least coverage on regional local TV and radio. With the cost-cutting these days it must be worse so good for BBC Radio Derby!!
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    radioviewerradioviewer Posts: 762
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    There simply isn't the money. After all the TV licence fee payers are now paying for Mr Patel in New Delhi to enjoy the World Service on radio...... with threat of imprisonment to Mr Brown of Newport Pagnell if he as the UK TV licence fee payer doesn't pay the fine for not having one!

    The unique way the BBC is funded. Mr Patel can enjoy it, or Bobbi Sue in Miami can enjoy it, but Mr Brown has to pay for it. The BBC.
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    connor the judgconnor the judg Posts: 8,961
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    BBC Local Radio -
    6am Local Breakfast
    9am NETWORKED MORNING SHOW
    12pm News Show Local
    1pm NETWORKED AFTERNOON SHOW
    4pm Local Drive
    7pm NETWORKED EVENING (as is) OR LOCAL SPORT

    Saturdays/Sundays -
    Local at breakfast, other times networked, either regionally or nationally

    The BBC local radio network is far too big, repetitive (how many discussions of cystitis are required on various local stations?) and takes too much cash.
    It's called LOCAL radio! I think it should be more like this

    Weekdays
    Overnights - Regional (Music & chat)
    Breakfast, Drive & Mid Morning - Local (All talk)
    Afternoons - Local (Music & chat)
    Evenings - Local sport or music based shows (Regional)
    Late night show - Local (Mostly talk & some music)

    Weekends
    Overnights (As 5 Live)
    Local Breakfast (Talk)
    Mid Morning (All Talk only on big stations and Music & chat on smaller stations)
    Lunch (Music & Chart)
    Afternoon - Local (Sport on Saturday & Music shows on Sunday)
    Evenings (Regional on small stations & Local on Big)
    Late Night (All Talk only on big stations and Music & chat on smaller stations)
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    connor the judgconnor the judg Posts: 8,961
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    There simply isn't the money. After all the TV licence fee payers are now paying for Mr Patel in New Delhi to enjoy the World Service on radio...... with threat of imprisonment to Mr Brown of Newport Pagnell if he as the UK TV licence fee payer doesn't pay the fine for not having one!

    The unique way the BBC is funded. Mr Patel can enjoy it, or Bobbi Sue in Miami can enjoy it, but Mr Brown has to pay for it. The BBC.

    Yes there is, axe Radio 1 extra, BBC 6 music and stop paying the "big" BBC DJ's £10000 a show and only have 2 people working on music shows not 5 or 6.
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    connor the judgconnor the judg Posts: 8,961
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    the East Midlands could close down Leicester, Derby and Lincolnshire and move to Nottingham, as a super 'hub', having studios in place for all local stations and with reporters / journos out of hired office space in the local cities and environs.
    What would you do with the west midlands?
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    Peter the GreatPeter the Great Posts: 14,230
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    Yes there is, axe Radio 1 extra, BBC 6 music and stop paying the "big" BBC DJ's £10000 a show and only have 2 people working on music shows not 5 or 6.
    Why the bloody hell should we lose 2 unique national stations?
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    radioviewerradioviewer Posts: 762
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    Why the bloody hell should we lose 2 unique national stations?

    Because they are over-staffed and bloody expensive to run per listener.

    And Radio 1 should be sold off - it's effectively an advertiser, an advertiser of music, bands, labels etc. It plays records so that the records can then be sold to the listener - every record is an 'advert'.
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    Ray266Ray266 Posts: 3,576
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    Because they are over-staffed and bloody expensive to run per listener.

    And Radio 1 should be sold off - it's effectively an advertiser, an advertiser of music, bands, labels etc. It plays records so that the records can then be sold to the listener - every record is an 'advert'.

    I agree with you Radio 1 should have gone years ago, I wouldn't sell it off just say when it's going to close give them about 2 months, Same goes for Radio 1xtra who would miss them? They might be some sort of protest but after about a couple of weeks it would be forgotten. The copyright fees alone don't justify them being on air it's about £100 per track just a scandal. As for BBC Local Radio I would trim them down to cover a region not city's like Radio Leeds to cover Yorkshire etc.
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    Andy23Andy23 Posts: 15,926
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    Radio Leeds doesn't actually just cover Leeds you know, it's only the name!
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    connor the judgconnor the judg Posts: 8,961
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    Why the bloody hell should we lose 2 unique national stations?
    Unique? Are you having a joke?:confused:
    And Radio 1 should be sold off.

    Yes I agree, I think if BBC Local Radio is managed right it can be really good, I don't get why they call it local radio when 11 hours a day are not local.
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    Peter the GreatPeter the Great Posts: 14,230
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    Because they are over-staffed and bloody expensive to run per listener.

    And Radio 1 should be sold off - it's effectively an advertiser, an advertiser of music, bands, labels etc. It plays records so that the records can then be sold to the listener - every record is an 'advert'.
    No they are not.6 music is alot cheaper than Radio 3. And let's face it what you really mean the BBC should get rid of the things you don't like.
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    Peter the GreatPeter the Great Posts: 14,230
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    Unique? Are you having a joke?:confused:



    Yes I agree, I think if BBC Local Radio is managed right it can be really good, I don't get why they call it local radio when 11 hours a day are not local.
    So can you tell me where else I can hear anything like 6 Music? And please don't have the audacity to say XFM.
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    connor the judgconnor the judg Posts: 8,961
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    So can you tell me where else I can hear anything like 6 Music? And please don't have the audacity to say XFM.
    - XFM
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    radioviewerradioviewer Posts: 762
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    No they are not.6 music is alot cheaper than Radio 3. And let's face it what you really mean the BBC should get rid of the things you don't like.

    Nope. The BBC shouldn't be spending money on competing with commercial ventures.
    That's what BBC Radio 1, 1Xtra and to some extent 6 do.
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    mikwmikw Posts: 48,715
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    Nope. The BBC shouldn't be spending money on competing with commercial ventures.
    That's what BBC Radio 1, 1Xtra and to some extent 6 do.

    Except the stations you mention are much more diverse than their commercial "equivalents" - unless the commercial broadcasters can replicate them (and why would they? They can make bigger profits with their existing formats) there's definitely a need for them
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    Ray266Ray266 Posts: 3,576
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    Andy23 wrote: »
    Radio Leeds doesn't actually just cover Leeds you know, it's only the name!

    I know but BBC Radio Sheffield does'nt just cover Sheffield thats my point, Radio Leeds or Sheffield can cover the whole of Yorkshire? I couldn't care less who covers Yorkshire as long as it's just the one station that would save money but the BBC goes on wasting money & thats something they are good at.
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    sparrysparry Posts: 2,059
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    Nope. The BBC shouldn't be spending money on competing with commercial ventures.
    That's what BBC Radio 1, 1Xtra and to some extent 6 do.

    Which commercial competitor does they have then?

    I can't think of anyone in the commercial sector that does anything like those stations?
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