Religious Question that Needs Answering

Uncle Fester · 04/12/14 - 15:14

I was just going through a Religious thread and I had a thought , as "Jesus" was Jewish how come all his "disciples" have western names Mathew , Mark ,Luke , John and Peter

answers please anyone

Ber · 04/12/14 - 15:17

Uncle Fester wrote: »

I was just going through a Religious thread and I had a thought , as "Jesus" was Jewish how come all his "disciples" have western names Mathew , Mark ,Luke , John and Peter
answers please anyone

They were anglicised.

rupert_pupkin · 04/12/14 - 15:19

Yeshua and his disciples all had Jewish/Middle Eastern names, their names and appearances were westernised to appeal to westerners

Think of it like any movie/book/fictional story that is adapted for a western audience

Shrike · 04/12/14 - 15:19

Those names are the westernised form. I know Peter is Petros in Greek and Boutros in Arabic (As in Boutros Boutros Ghali)
Jesus is a common name in Spanish speaking countries too - I think Spain qualifies as being Western.;-)

Ber · 04/12/14 - 15:20

Matthew / Mattius / Mattiyahu

nethwen · 04/12/14 - 15:22

Uncle Fester wrote: »

I was just going through a Religious thread and I had a thought , as "Jesus" was Jewish how come all his "disciples" have western names Mathew , Mark ,Luke , John and Peter
answers please anyone

They don't. Those names are Hebrew and Greek.

idlewilde · 04/12/14 - 15:32

nethwen wrote: »

They don't. Those names are Hebrew and Greek.

Which then later became popular in Western countries presumably.

nethwen · 04/12/14 - 15:36

idlewilde wrote: »

Which then later became popular in Western countries presumably.

Yes, as Christianity spread here.

lee_sharp · 04/12/14 - 17:41

Because it's all a load of made up claptrap......

SULLA · 04/12/14 - 18:01

lee_sharp wrote: »

Because it's all a load of made up claptrap......

That doesn't answer the question.

Steve_Cardanas · 04/12/14 - 18:03

lee_sharp wrote: »

Because it's all a load of made up claptrap......

you are right it's all made up like star trek and doctor who.

KJ44 · 04/12/14 - 18:03

lee_sharp wrote: »

Because it's all a load of made up claptrap......

Never mind the names, paintings tend to portray non-semitic people. I realise I'm on a sticky wicket here but isn't it strange how a lack of imagination betrays the fiction.

Hey, maybe they evolved to look European, as Christianity spread?

maggie thecat · 04/12/14 - 18:15

http://www.behindthename.com/name/matthew

Here's the origin of Matthew. It's the anglicised version of Greek translated from Hebrew. You can look up Paul (who was once Saul) and the rest as well.

cultureman · 04/12/14 - 18:29

Just to add to the mix; Jesus and his disciples probably spoke Aramaic.

nethwen · 04/12/14 - 18:33

cultureman wrote: »

Just to add to the mix; Jesus and his disciples probably spoke Aramaic.

I think they were more likely to be multi-lingual.

[Deleted User] · 04/12/14 - 18:44

I would argue that most people in the UK arent aware where Christianity was born & in what language.

I'm sure they feel it was in one of the Home Counties & the Bible was revealed & printed in English....

wendy09 · 04/12/14 - 18:57

The Cricketer wrote: »

I would argue that most people in the UK arent aware where Christianity was born & in what language.

I'm sure they feel it was in one of the Home Counties & the Bible was revealed & printed in English....

it was henry 8 and all that ..

zx50 · 04/12/14 - 19:12

Uncle Fester wrote: »

I was just going through a Religious thread and I had a thought , as "Jesus" was Jewish how come all his "disciples" have western names Mathew , Mark ,Luke , John and Peter
answers please anyone

Matthew and John are Jewish names, but the others don't seem to be Jewish.

http://www.babynames.org.uk/jewish-boy-baby-names.htm

ennui · 04/12/14 - 19:17

rupert_pupkin wrote: »

Yeshua and his disciples all had Jewish/Middle Eastern names, their names and appearances were westernised to appeal to westerners

Think of it like any movie/book/fictional story that is adapted for a western audience

They were Judaic people living in a land under Greco-Roman jurisdiction. It had been Greek for over three hundred years. It was always a part of the Occidental world. It has always been a long way from the middle east, the lands east of the Euphrates. Why have you contrived some spurious idea that they would be more oriental ? Perhaps to appeal to some anti-western sentiment ?

swingaleg · 04/12/14 - 19:18

I suppose one thing that is quite strange is that even after the English version of the Bible became universal in the UK in the 17th century very few boys were named 'Jesus'

I can't think of any.......

Ber · 04/12/14 - 19:31

swingaleg wrote: »

I suppose one thing that is quite strange is that even after the English version of the Bible became universal in the UK in the 17th century very few boys were named 'Jesus'

I can't think of any.......

Jesus is a popular name in Spain and Hispanic countries (as is Maria)

Maybe its something to do with the catholic/protestant schism?

Although Joshua is a variant of Jesus and that's a very popular name in English speaking countries.

rupert_pupkin · 04/12/14 - 19:38

ennui wrote: »

They were Judaic people living in a land under Greco-Roman jurisdiction. It had been Greek for over three hundred years. It was always a part of the Occidental world. It has always been a long way from the middle east, the lands east of the Euphrates. Why have you contrived some spurious idea that they would be more oriental ? Perhaps to appeal to some anti-western sentiment ?

I don't know much about the fictional story, sorry. The rest of my post is spot on

lordOfTime · 04/12/14 - 19:38

Yea as other have said, the names we see in the Bible are modernised English names!

I often don't consider the setting and look at the stories in a sanitised way. The bible leaves much to the imagination the way the stories are told

nethwen wrote: »

I think they were more likely to be multi-lingual.

Hi netty... Long time

[Deleted User] · 04/12/14 - 19:39

Ber wrote: »

Jesus is a popular name in Spain and Hispanic countries (as is Maria)

Maybe its something to do with the catholic/protestant schism?

Although Joshua is a variant of Jesus and that's a very popular name in English speaking countries.

Jesus is very popular name in Muslim faith also. I read about it a few days ago but cant remember what they call him!

Ber · 04/12/14 - 19:42

The Cricketer wrote: »

Jesus is very popular name in Muslim faith also. I read about it a few days ago but cant remember what they call him!

Isa.

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[Deleted User] · 04/12/14 - 19:43

Ber wrote: »

Isa.

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Thats it! Now I remember. Although it was with an 'E' (ESA)

Hey there!

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