When I come in this forum and see the names "luner_45" and now "MsDirect" it just disappoints me to read!
I say that as a fan of 5H! I loved their performance and am so proud that the UK is liking them but you guys make it SO HARD to be part of a fan group for them. One thing I've personally (yes just my opinion here btw) is that Harmonizers are so far up the girls butts that it's disturbing!
Please lord, just enjoy the music and the girls but drop this whole "my house is better than yours "bullshit!! There's no point in it and it gets you NO WHERE!
I love both groups and I don't feel the need to get my two cents and be giving it "omg they NEVER congratuled...they're mean" or "omg, they have so much more success in the U.S"
What does that achieve? Let me answer for you. Nothing. Just enjoy the bloody music ffs!!!!
Oh yeah I forgot about Leigh's tweets about getting beach ready (in the middle of winter lol) but I guess that is a definite indication they aren't working over the XMAS period, although in theory they should be done with their part (vocals, writing etc) by the time they go on their xmas break.
I kind of like MsDirect's Voice of Reason/What Fangirl Weed Are You Smoking posts.
Yep about the holiday break and dont forget its the staff and probably studio and producers also so not just the girls taking a flit. However we better see a roaring start to 2015!
A June album? Wow that would be really late. I just cant see them idling for that long.
I did! They said they're just as frustrated as we are but in the New Year they're getting US writers in❤️
I'm not sure about the single but they said they're getting US writers to help complete the album 😊
"They said they're just as frustrated as we are" -- What does that mean??? Label deliberately delaying???
Jade hinted at a DNA Part 2 in a Q&A. Glad they are conceptually following thru. Cant wait for a video!
I'm glad they made the 18+ stipulation for the dinner. They probably didnt need a lot of escorts for minors (plus alcohol served) but also the older fans would act as more reliable reporters.
Also if they are still writing...looks like March at the very earliest.
If they are waiting to work with US writers then I'm thinking we definitely won't get an album before April. Unless they just need a few extra tracks and have a lead single ready to go and they write and record the final songs in January.
I've seen people talk about DNA part 2 here before, what does that mean?
If they are waiting to work with US writers then I'm thinking we definitely won't get an album before April. Unless they just need a few extra tracks and have a lead single ready to go and they write and record the final songs in January.
I've seen people talk about DNA part 2 here before, what does that mean?
A sequel to the music video.
The DNA music video ended with the 4 girl surrounding a guy they had tied up + kidnapped then the caption "To be continued" appears and ends.
We have been waiting for the 2nd part ever since haha
I've seen people talk about DNA part 2 here before, what does that mean?
There was wide skepticism if there ever would be a "Continued" since others have done that and never followed through. It remains to be seen whether its literally a continuation with same setting and costumes and storyline or just a conceptual similarity. Obviously its going to be a different song. At least this time they would hopefully have a bigger budget.
They should bind and torture Cowell. ;-)
Except for the goofy running scene I actually really liked the DNA video.
Charlie_Trench - agree and its both fanbases. There are so many things that make it hard to root for a "celebrity". Drama always occurs.
That said....
Does anyone also find it curious how the girls say they "love" their team, yet tell fans that they are just as frustrated? (and no the team wasn't in the room when they said this).
I think team mix will be replaced within a year. If they are given that option. Not that they wont be friends anymore...but...
I would probably fire Ms. Coxy first. What does she even do? BTW, I didn't mean to spark up drama in my last post. It's just that I'm pissed off at LM's under promotion.
And letsjustgo27 I think being friends with their team has pros and cons, one of the cons here is that when the pros are not actually happening, getting rid of friends is harder, so time will tell... i dont think the girls would have the courage to ditch their team even if theyd rather do that
We dont know who they are frustrated with, though. It could be upper management way over their own team's heads, it could be Columbia, who knows. Also, how could they leave a team that would be responsible for setting up their album promotion, right in the middle of such?
Why is everybody so against Coxy? She's carrying out Annecka's direction. I dont even think she's the booking agent.
I would probably fire Ms. Coxy first. What does she even do?
This isnt directed at you but I get frustrated when 14 year old fangirls assume she is just going out with LM to mooch party favors. I would guess on the Neon Lights Tour and US promo 2014 she was all this or a good combo of it:
The Road Manager
The Road manager normally takes care of logistics while the artist is on tour (or on the road). Duties include making sure that everything on the road is provided for as spelled out in the contract and all monies are paid on time. The artist can then concentrate solely on performing and interacting with fans, and not be distracted and pre-occupied with whether the promoter, venue booker, booking agent, sponsor or brand partner has met their obligations. The road manager also follows up on items promised as part of the contract such as accommodations, per diems, advances/deposits, rentals, commissions, and so on.
The Tour Manager
The Tour manager on larger tours coordinates all the Road managers along with the details and logistics of the tour itself. Sometimes, particularly on “smaller” or independent artist tours, the road manager and the tour manager are the same person. The Tour manager is in charge of all the details that relate to the entire tour including communications, merchandising, tour routing, catering, hospitality, etc.
I know they usually had that gentlemen with the grey hair and grizzled beard as their tour manager/logistics person also. But I would guess in lieu of their Manager's presence, Sam is the one who has to accompany the girls on all their photoshoots, videos, press outings, appearances and performances. She would have to deal with the press and the venue organizers, besides seeing to the girls well being generally. She would have to do the pre event coordination. She would have to make sure the girls get to where they have to go on time, so organizing the transportation. She is probably also responsible for the dancers when they need them and all their logistics. She would have to coordinate any lodging and meals for all performers.
We dont know who they are frustrated with, though. It could be upper management way over their own team's heads, it could be Columbia, who knows. Also, how could they leave a team that would be responsible for setting up their album promotion, right in the middle of such?
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You might be right that it's the head of syco and modest they are frustrated with. Which I wouldn't blame them. They just need to direct it at the right people though.
They are probably stuck with modest either for awhile or forever. Depending on said contracts when they won.
How do we know it isnt Sony or one of its subsidiaries (again, Columbia)?
In the case of Modest or Syco, maybe it isnt even frustration born of anything deliberate. I could see their team being slowly starved thru resources (personnel) being directed away to other acts. Although in Modest's case, they arent on the XF conveyor belt anymore and their past clients have left.
Whatever the case may be, it saddens me a little that they are expressing some frustration, since it indicates all isnt going smoothly. It seems earlier in their career things were moving nicely.
The frustration might very well be about the difficulties they're having over song writing......
We all know three of them have wanted to be singers since they were about six - and Jesy really only thought about acting.....
Although they are older and have greater experience of life (to a degree), I doubt very much any significant improvement in their abilities to construct laudable verses....
Which of them has indicated they have had much practice - if any - in writing????
...and for how long??? (The most creative would likely be someone who's been writing since their early years [pre-teens for example])
There's some new info here from the winner of the Xmas dinner
She says there's a DNA part 2 on the new album
Album isn't finished as they're getting US writers next year
M&G for UK next tour
BIB, I don't know whether to be delighted they're so determined to make this album work or alarmed that they're not finished with that stage of its creation yet. But oh well, good things come to those who wait so I'm vaguely excited.
Let's hope single 1 is ready at the very least, right? That's not too crazy a thing to hope surely.
I think they could get dropped next year. I have a strong feeling 5H are gonna make it.
All this delaying and frustration reminds me of Alexandra Burke with SYCO, that didn't end well.
I hope another label will be able to invest in them, if the worse happens. SYCO are horrible, they're all about "out with the old and in with the new"
I can't see them keeping two girl groups on the label.
You're right, Alexandra at this stage was planning to write with US writers too. Now Syco are probably aware that their family members have been bad mouthing Simon, Modest and Syco. It's not proffesional at all.
Oh dear, well this conversation took a sudden turn for the worst.
I have hope for album 3. Album 4? Who knows, perhaps they'll leave or have been dropped by then. I am somewhat shocked they're still in the writing phase.
You're right, Alexandra at this stage was planning to write with US writers too. Now Syco are probably aware that their family members have been bad mouthing Simon, Modest and Syco. It's not proffesional at all.
Who's family been bad mouthing Syco? sounds like Alex's family lol
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I say that as a fan of 5H! I loved their performance and am so proud that the UK is liking them but you guys make it SO HARD to be part of a fan group for them. One thing I've personally (yes just my opinion here btw) is that Harmonizers are so far up the girls butts that it's disturbing!
Please lord, just enjoy the music and the girls but drop this whole "my house is better than yours "bullshit!! There's no point in it and it gets you NO WHERE!
I love both groups and I don't feel the need to get my two cents and be giving it "omg they NEVER congratuled...they're mean" or "omg, they have so much more success in the U.S"
What does that achieve? Let me answer for you. Nothing. Just enjoy the bloody music ffs!!!!
Anyway, everyone have a good weekend?
Yep about the holiday break and dont forget its the staff and probably studio and producers also so not just the girls taking a flit. However we better see a roaring start to 2015!
A June album? Wow that would be really late. I just cant see them idling for that long.
There's some new info here from the winner of the Xmas dinner
She says there's a DNA part 2 on the new album
Album isn't finished as they're getting US writers next year
M&G for UK next tour
I venture to hazard...... for lead single and album title:
"Grown"
;-):p
New Predicta #
1st single launch - Jan 12th - release on Feb 16th
Album release - March 23rd
I did! They said they're just as frustrated as we are but in the New Year they're getting US writers in❤️
I'm not sure about the single but they said they're getting US writers to help complete the album 😊
"They said they're just as frustrated as we are" -- What does that mean??? Label deliberately delaying???
Jade hinted at a DNA Part 2 in a Q&A. Glad they are conceptually following thru. Cant wait for a video!
I'm glad they made the 18+ stipulation for the dinner. They probably didnt need a lot of escorts for minors (plus alcohol served) but also the older fans would act as more reliable reporters.
Also if they are still writing...looks like March at the very earliest.
Single 1 March 1
Single 2 May 10
Single 3 August 30
I've seen people talk about DNA part 2 here before, what does that mean?
Are you actually a fan?
On the DNA video there is a "to be continued". So a sequel to the video.
A sequel to the music video.
The DNA music video ended with the 4 girl surrounding a guy they had tied up + kidnapped then the caption "To be continued" appears and ends.
We have been waiting for the 2nd part ever since haha
There was wide skepticism if there ever would be a "Continued" since others have done that and never followed through. It remains to be seen whether its literally a continuation with same setting and costumes and storyline or just a conceptual similarity. Obviously its going to be a different song. At least this time they would hopefully have a bigger budget.
They should bind and torture Cowell. ;-)
Except for the goofy running scene I actually really liked the DNA video.
That said....
Does anyone also find it curious how the girls say they "love" their team, yet tell fans that they are just as frustrated? (and no the team wasn't in the room when they said this).
I think team mix will be replaced within a year. If they are given that option. Not that they wont be friends anymore...but...
Why is everybody so against Coxy? She's carrying out Annecka's direction. I dont even think she's the booking agent.
This isnt directed at you but I get frustrated when 14 year old fangirls assume she is just going out with LM to mooch party favors. I would guess on the Neon Lights Tour and US promo 2014 she was all this or a good combo of it:
The Road Manager
The Road manager normally takes care of logistics while the artist is on tour (or on the road). Duties include making sure that everything on the road is provided for as spelled out in the contract and all monies are paid on time. The artist can then concentrate solely on performing and interacting with fans, and not be distracted and pre-occupied with whether the promoter, venue booker, booking agent, sponsor or brand partner has met their obligations. The road manager also follows up on items promised as part of the contract such as accommodations, per diems, advances/deposits, rentals, commissions, and so on.
The Tour Manager
The Tour manager on larger tours coordinates all the Road managers along with the details and logistics of the tour itself. Sometimes, particularly on “smaller” or independent artist tours, the road manager and the tour manager are the same person. The Tour manager is in charge of all the details that relate to the entire tour including communications, merchandising, tour routing, catering, hospitality, etc.
I know they usually had that gentlemen with the grey hair and grizzled beard as their tour manager/logistics person also. But I would guess in lieu of their Manager's presence, Sam is the one who has to accompany the girls on all their photoshoots, videos, press outings, appearances and performances. She would have to deal with the press and the venue organizers, besides seeing to the girls well being generally. She would have to do the pre event coordination. She would have to make sure the girls get to where they have to go on time, so organizing the transportation. She is probably also responsible for the dancers when they need them and all their logistics. She would have to coordinate any lodging and meals for all performers.
Its a lot of work. We dont see it.
@MaeganCottone · Jul 12
“@SamCoxy: “@disneycaI: can I have your job? Since you're not doing it very well” n
Get her in for work experience Sam. She'll learn.
You might be right that it's the head of syco and modest they are frustrated with. Which I wouldn't blame them. They just need to direct it at the right people though.
They are probably stuck with modest either for awhile or forever. Depending on said contracts when they won.
In the case of Modest or Syco, maybe it isnt even frustration born of anything deliberate. I could see their team being slowly starved thru resources (personnel) being directed away to other acts. Although in Modest's case, they arent on the XF conveyor belt anymore and their past clients have left.
Whatever the case may be, it saddens me a little that they are expressing some frustration, since it indicates all isnt going smoothly. It seems earlier in their career things were moving nicely.
We all know three of them have wanted to be singers since they were about six - and Jesy really only thought about acting.....
Although they are older and have greater experience of life (to a degree), I doubt very much any significant improvement in their abilities to construct laudable verses....
Which of them has indicated they have had much practice - if any - in writing????
...and for how long???
(The most creative would likely be someone who's been writing since their early years [pre-teens for example])
BIB, I don't know whether to be delighted they're so determined to make this album work or alarmed that they're not finished with that stage of its creation yet. But oh well, good things come to those who wait so I'm vaguely excited.
Let's hope single 1 is ready at the very least, right? That's not too crazy a thing to hope surely.
I think they could get dropped next year. I have a strong feeling 5H are gonna make it.
All this delaying and frustration reminds me of Alexandra Burke with SYCO, that didn't end well.
I hope another label will be able to invest in them, if the worse happens. SYCO are horrible, they're all about "out with the old and in with the new"
I can't see them keeping two girl groups on the label.
You're right, Alexandra at this stage was planning to write with US writers too. Now Syco are probably aware that their family members have been bad mouthing Simon, Modest and Syco. It's not proffesional at all.
I have hope for album 3. Album 4? Who knows, perhaps they'll leave or have been dropped by then. I am somewhat shocked they're still in the writing phase.
Who's family been bad mouthing Syco? sounds like Alex's family lol