If you could point out where anyone has said the child 'deserves' bullying that would be super. I for one am simply saying that with my personal memories of school, and what I've seen later through my family, I cannot conceive how a boy going to school and 'being' a princess is going to end in anything other than tears.
The assumption that a boy going to school in a dress will definitely lead to taunting and bullying means you believe that reaction is justified. The onus is being put on the boy, not those around him if they have that reaction. You're suggesting he didn't get the treatment he deserved because you cannot accept that on this occasion there was no negative response from anyone.
Funny a programme called The Girl Who Wore Men's Trousers wouldn't have such an impact.
Such are the contradictory clothing rules of our society.
Indeed. Assigning gender to items of clothing is so outdated.
For about a year in the 90s I wore my dad's leather jacket from the 70s to school. Two of my male teachers noticed the jacket one afternoon and asked where it was from. I explained and they were mildly impressed. Didn't receive a single bit of negativity about it.
Indeed. Assigning gender to items of clothing is so outdated.
For about a year in the 90s I wore my dad's leather jacket from the 70s to school. Two of my male teachers noticed the jacket one afternoon and asked where it was from. I explained and they were mildly impressed. Didn't receive a single bit of negativity about it.
Indeed. Assigning gender to items of clothing is so outdated.
For about a year in the 90s I wore my dad's leather jacket from the 70s to school. Two of my male teachers noticed the jacket one afternoon and asked where it was from. I explained and they were mildly impressed. Didn't receive a single bit of negativity about it.
Oh come off it. Yes, men did wear 'skirts' in the past but they haven't done in mainstream European fashion for over three centuries, let alone a dress.
Do you really want to see this walking down the High Street? No, and no-one else does either.
I appreciate the fact that some men have a psychological compulsion and/or a sexual fetish for wearing women's clothes but that is entirely unrelated to 'outdated' assigning of clothes according to gender.
Indeed. Assigning gender to items of clothing is so outdated.
For about a year in the 90s I wore my dad's leather jacket from the 70s to school. Two of my male teachers noticed the jacket one afternoon and asked where it was from. I explained and they were mildly impressed. Didn't receive a single bit of negativity about it.
Why don't you chop my balls off and make me a mangina while you are at it, birds wear skirts and dresses end off.
If you are transgender then fine but frankly I don't see the point.
Quite right Randysback. From now on let's only have realistic stories on the telly at Christmas. I mean if a fat bearded man really came down our chimneys, he'd be arrested for trespass.
The fact that he has a glass of sherry and is looking for children it would be a toss up as to whether he was done for drink driving or arrested by Operation Yewtree
The assumption that a boy going to school in a dress will definitely lead to taunting and bullying means you believe that reaction is justified. The onus is being put on the boy, not those around him if they have that reaction. You're suggesting he didn't get the treatment he deserved because you cannot accept that on this occasion there was no negative response from anyone.
The day didn't end in tears.
Dear me, you really are clutching at straws. I've explained my position several times now, it really isn't my fault if you lack the basic comprehension skills to understand.
Lol wtf at this thread. Did the UK's tv's emit dangerously high levels of gay rays risking turning manly men into feminine girly guys or something? the outrage levels are peaking.
I wonder if the boys classmates in this drama would have been so alright with his dress code if when changing for PE out of his skirt he revealed frilly knickers underneath too?
Funny a programme called The Girl Who Wore Men's Trousers wouldn't have such an impact.
Such are the contradictory clothing rules of our society.
Indeed.
What if the boy had a different preference, a "clothes optional" one. In other words he wanted the right to be able to go about either wearing or not wearing clothing, in his birthday suit instead? There are people like this, the most famous being Stephen Gough who keeps getting banged up every time he goes out without any clothing. Not accepted is he, even as an adult by other adults. I saw a Joan Bakewell interview once with another guy called Vincent Bethell as she interviewed him starkers going down a busy High Street. So I'm not meaning to sound trivial at all.
I've just seen your link to that guy in the grey blazer and grey skirt Gusto and it suddenly made me wonder about an important bodily issue that sets men aside from women....how do you stand at a urinal or over the toilet in that skirt exactly? Would mens skirts need to be manufactured with a fly to unzip? Maybe a man wearing a skirt would be compelled to sit down like the ladies even if he just wanted a quick leak. This debate is taking a whole new direction I did not foresee.
I just want to ask you LGof7 what your personal reaction would be if you had a 12 year old son who came to you at the beginning of the next school term and insisted he would like to go to school wearing a knee length skirt from now on? You have been defending the issue, but what if it became personal to your own son? Then what?
Dear me, you really are clutching at straws. I've explained my position several times now, it really isn't my fault if you lack the basic comprehension skills to understand.
I'm bored of this now.
You are the one refusing to understand. I have told you a boy went to school in a dress and there was no adverse reaction on that occasion. Why is that so hard for you accept?
I just want to ask you LGof7 what your personal reaction would be if you had a 12 year old son who came to you at the beginning of the next school term and insisted he would like to go to school wearing a knee length skirt from now on? You have been defending the issue, but what if it became personal to your own son? Then what?
I would ask him, "Would you like me to look for one with you or you happy to get it yourself? £15 or less, mind. I'm not made of money."
Oh come off it. Yes, men did wear 'skirts' in the past but they haven't done in mainstream European fashion for over three centuries, let alone a dress.
Do you really want to see this walking down the High Street? No, and no-one else does either.
I appreciate the fact that some men have a psychological compulsion and/or a sexual fetish for wearing women's clothes but that is entirely unrelated to 'outdated' assigning of clothes according to gender.
Fashion changes. But it not a matter of fashion. It's a matter of choice.
If a man wants to walk down a street in a skirt it would neither effect me psychologically or physically. Why should I care? If I wear a piece of clothing through my own free choice who is anyone to tell me I can't wear it without good reason? If I have that right, so does the next person.
The only problem I have with these types of shows is that the person who has the 'difference' always has to win something to be accepted.
What if he had missed the penalty, would everyone still have accepted his crossdressing?
I would have liked to have seen him go to school in a girls uniform at the end, to show not only that his dressing had been accepted, but also that he had accepted the school uniform rules.
Glee did a crossdressing school boy storyline very well, with Wade/ Unique.
Are you James O'Brian, & what is a knuckle dragger.
Without Googling it, I believe it refers to people who appear to have never evolved. Picture a gorilla walking along with it's long arms dragging on the floor.
Fashion changes. But it not a matter of fashion. It's a matter of choice.
If a man wants to walk down a street in a skirt it would neither effect me psychologically or physically. Why should I care? If I wear a piece of clothing through my own free choice who is anyone to tell me I can't wear it without good reason? If I have that right, so does the next person.
Anyone can choose to wear anything they want. I've never said otherwise. Whether I think they look ridiculous or not is also entirely my choice.
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Such are the contradictory clothing rules of our society.
So did I, thought it was very sound.
The assumption that a boy going to school in a dress will definitely lead to taunting and bullying means you believe that reaction is justified. The onus is being put on the boy, not those around him if they have that reaction. You're suggesting he didn't get the treatment he deserved because you cannot accept that on this occasion there was no negative response from anyone.
The day didn't end in tears.
Indeed. Assigning gender to items of clothing is so outdated.
For about a year in the 90s I wore my dad's leather jacket from the 70s to school. Two of my male teachers noticed the jacket one afternoon and asked where it was from. I explained and they were mildly impressed. Didn't receive a single bit of negativity about it.
Men's skirts.
http://www.hypebeast.com/image/2009/11/hm-2010-spring-collection-10.jpg
Oh come off it. Yes, men did wear 'skirts' in the past but they haven't done in mainstream European fashion for over three centuries, let alone a dress.
Do you really want to see this walking down the High Street? No, and no-one else does either.
http://www.thesmartgirlsfashionguide.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/mens-dresses-JW-Anderson.jpg
I appreciate the fact that some men have a psychological compulsion and/or a sexual fetish for wearing women's clothes but that is entirely unrelated to 'outdated' assigning of clothes according to gender.
Ridiculous. Most men like looking and dressing like men, not like women.
But who's to say what men should dress like? Pink used to be the colour for Baby Boys!
Why don't you chop my balls off and make me a mangina while you are at it, birds wear skirts and dresses end off.
If you are transgender then fine but frankly I don't see the point.
The fact that he has a glass of sherry and is looking for children it would be a toss up as to whether he was done for drink driving or arrested by Operation Yewtree
Dear me, you really are clutching at straws. I've explained my position several times now, it really isn't my fault if you lack the basic comprehension skills to understand.
I'm bored of this now.
Indeed.
What if the boy had a different preference, a "clothes optional" one. In other words he wanted the right to be able to go about either wearing or not wearing clothing, in his birthday suit instead? There are people like this, the most famous being Stephen Gough who keeps getting banged up every time he goes out without any clothing. Not accepted is he, even as an adult by other adults. I saw a Joan Bakewell interview once with another guy called Vincent Bethell as she interviewed him starkers going down a busy High Street. So I'm not meaning to sound trivial at all.
I've just seen your link to that guy in the grey blazer and grey skirt Gusto and it suddenly made me wonder about an important bodily issue that sets men aside from women....how do you stand at a urinal or over the toilet in that skirt exactly? Would mens skirts need to be manufactured with a fly to unzip? Maybe a man wearing a skirt would be compelled to sit down like the ladies even if he just wanted a quick leak. This debate is taking a whole new direction I did not foresee.
I just want to ask you LGof7 what your personal reaction would be if you had a 12 year old son who came to you at the beginning of the next school term and insisted he would like to go to school wearing a knee length skirt from now on? You have been defending the issue, but what if it became personal to your own son? Then what?
You are the one refusing to understand. I have told you a boy went to school in a dress and there was no adverse reaction on that occasion. Why is that so hard for you accept?
I would ask him, "Would you like me to look for one with you or you happy to get it yourself? £15 or less, mind. I'm not made of money."
Fashion changes. But it not a matter of fashion. It's a matter of choice.
If a man wants to walk down a street in a skirt it would neither effect me psychologically or physically. Why should I care? If I wear a piece of clothing through my own free choice who is anyone to tell me I can't wear it without good reason? If I have that right, so does the next person.
I do say so, because that's what would happen.
Well, I'll get back to you about boys wearing skirts when Spandau Ballet hit the stage of Top Of The Pops in the near future.
Ooh, Kappellmeister...the New Romantics of the early 80s. Men in skirts/dresses and wearing make-up. Discuss?
Oh yes. It's really bringing out the knuckle draggers.
What if he had missed the penalty, would everyone still have accepted his crossdressing?
I would have liked to have seen him go to school in a girls uniform at the end, to show not only that his dressing had been accepted, but also that he had accepted the school uniform rules.
Glee did a crossdressing school boy storyline very well, with Wade/ Unique.
Without Googling it, I believe it refers to people who appear to have never evolved. Picture a gorilla walking along with it's long arms dragging on the floor.
Hardly "mainstream fashion".
Anyone can choose to wear anything they want. I've never said otherwise. Whether I think they look ridiculous or not is also entirely my choice.