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Scots want Labour to govern in Westminster coalition with SNP
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http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/revealed-scots-want-labour-govern-5001611
A Labour/SNP coalition would invariably put Salmond in the cabinet.
IMO, this would be poison to the English.
A Labour/SNP coalition would invariably put Salmond in the cabinet.
IMO, this would be poison to the English.
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Zero chance of that happening.
I predict cries of "traitors" for years to come.
Labour have form for taking the support of potential partners for granted then going OTT with the vilification when the other disagrees.
SNP should steer well clear.
Scotland IS part of the UK.
Well.. Scotland decided it could opt out of the Union. If things got bad enough, ie Labour/Salmond coalition, England could always try for an independence referendum ourselves.
Then again, watching Miliband with Salmond as deputy PM would be funnier than Clegg whining about being left on the sidelines during PMQs.
You mean the politicians decided to have a vote and Scots elected to say "no thank you".
Time to stop sulking about it.
Any part of the Union could elect to leave if there was a mandate for the vote. If your knickers are that twisted why not campaign for it?
They wanted a referendum which included the option for Devo-Max. They were prohibited from including that option by the parties at Westminster.
They (the SNP) signed the Edinburgh agreement based on that, and on the proviso that no announcements could be made in the 28 days prior to the vote (purdah).
Then following just one poll showing a "Yes" lead, Larry, Curly and Mo pop up promising pretty much devo-max, lead on by Scunner Broon having his last hurrah before obscurity.
Following the vote, there's now all sorts of "ifs" "buts" maybes" etc surrounding this great vow by the Stooges.
What's the best way for the SNP to get the powers promised?
Get into a position where one party requiries their support to form a Government! As the old saying goes, "when you have them by the balls - their hearts and minds will soon follow"
If you look at the 2010 SNP Manifesto, Devo Max isn't mentioned in it. They just talk about a vote on Independence so they got what they wanted. They only wanted Devo Max after realizing Independence wasn't likely to happen. I wonder why people aren't attacking the SNP for trying to break their own Manifesto pledge like they do with the UK parties. Ah well, it's settled for now anyways.
I wonder how much longer we have to hear this foot stomping around with crying and "it's not fair" being thrown around the forum. Luckily it seems to gradually be dying down as people begin to realize no matter how much they whine and moan, the result can't be changed.
The manifesto may not include the words Devo Max but it does say that the SNP will negotiate more powers for Holyrood. Taking that to its extremes that would imply that they already had a mandate for Devo Max and didn't need to put it to a vote. The reason for Westminster insisting on it not being there is that if it were and, as seemed likely, it was the most popular opinion they'd have to deliver.
Would this also include a committment to resolving the West Lothian question? Any coalition that gave the SNP any significant power would seem.. strange in a representative democracy where the SNP would represent such a small minority of the UK.
Where would you find your non-toffs?
London/SE is already a different country from the rest of the UK, maybe they should declare independence?
The fact they have a huge text saying Independence with numerous paragraphs relating to it clearly means that's what they wanted. There's very to complain about. They wanted a Yes/No vote, 55% voted No. Topic is done and dusted for the considerable future.
If the present/next Government can't deliver what's been promised then I'll happily support a 2nd vote but if people vote No again, the topic should be put to sleep for a decades at least.
People need to now get over it and move on. We need to all come back together as 1 nation and start to put differences aside and start dealing with problems both at home and abroad.
Yes, but Scotland has its own Parliament and the SNP will want what is best for Scotland not the UK.
Yup, the clue is in the name.
English only laws being made by Scottish Nationalists, that would go down well.
Of course they will. That's their job. Who's to say what's good for Scotland isn't good for the UK?
You expect voters to vote for a party that wants to put the boot in?
Rather than complain, England should learn from the example and ditch the big two who only look out for themselves.
There is nothing to learn from the Scotland
The SNP\Salmond have only used Scotland for their own political goals, the sole agenda of Salmond and the SNP has been to cause a rift between the Scots and English and achieve their political aims
Things like free prescriptions have only been possible as other areas have been cut, like cancer treatments.
I surprised the Scottish people have fallen for these tricks.
Using your logic, which is of course flawed over the reason there was a NO vote, then it would be better for the SNP and Scotland for them to join a coalition with the Tories.
The Tories after all want to give Scotland the most devolved powers out of all the parties.