It must be confusing for Dave I guess. UKIP as a party debated replacing the NHS with an insurance system and came down against it. Despite the fact that Farage liked the idea it didn't become official UKIP policy.
Month's later he was discussing this debate in a radio four program "Can Democracy Work?" and when pressed by the interviewer he conceded
"As time goes on, this is a debate that we’re all going to have to return to...
There is no question that healthcare provision is going to have to be very much greater in 10 years than it is today, with an ageing population, and we’re going to have to find ways to do it."
I'm guessing democracy can work within UKIP, but it's a concept the Tories still struggle with
UKIP can't even get their Manifesto out - not very democratic.
Twitter helps Ukip out with manifesto after policy chief ‘fails to deliver’
#MyUkipManifesto suggestions flood Twitter after ‘sacking’ of Ukip’s policymaker
Chris Bryant calling Cameron a bully again on twitter. Why do Labour MP's think this is a good tactic, exactly? Especially as it always seems to to surface after a PMQ's where their leader is, once again, awful.
UKIP can't even get their Manifesto out - not very democratic.
Twitter helps Ukip out with manifesto after policy chief ‘fails to deliver’
#MyUkipManifesto suggestions flood Twitter after ‘sacking’ of Ukip’s policymaker
UKIP as a party debated replacing the NHS with an insurance system and came down against it. Despite the fact that Farage liked the idea it didn't become official UKIP policy.
Month's later he was discussing this debate in a radio four program "Can Democracy Work?" and when pressed by the interviewer he conceded
"As time goes on, this is a debate that we’re all going to have to return to...
Farage was very scathing of his own parties last manifesto, quite publically ridiculing and binning it in fact. They've just dropped their head of policy and Cameron was quoting Farage's known opinion not UKIP policy when answering the turncoat.
Usual punch and judy nonsense, the day Cameron gives a straight answer to a question will be the first, it's a shame the speaker cannot force him to give answers instead of the usual prepared spiel
I think it was more about ridiculing Reckless for asking a question on a topic that is a bit of an unknown as far as his new bedfellows are concerned rather than anything else.
What may or may not have been explicitly stated isn't the same as how a comment is hoped to be perceived. It allows politicians to be economical with the truth without telling actual porkies.
Usual punch and judy nonsense, the day Cameron gives a straight answer to a question will be the first, it's a shame the speaker cannot force him to give answers instead of the usual prepared spiel
Is this your first visit to Earth
Cameron's a politician. Politicians don't answer questions directly as it could get them into trouble further down the line. Andrew Neil spent 10 minutes at the start of today's Daily Politics trying, unsuccessfully, to get Labour's Sadiq Khan to answer a question. Andrew Neil gave up eventually after admitting failure.
Attempting to get any politician to answer a question be they Labour, Tory or LibDem is only slightly less of a challenge than nailing jelly to a barn door.
In an exclusive interview with BBC political editor Nick Robinson, Scotland's First Minister Nicola Sturgeon has said SNP MPs will vote on the English NHS after the next election, arguing that this is necessary to protect the Scottish NHS from knock-on effects of cuts and privatisation in England. Traditionally the SNP position at Westminster is not to vote on matters which affect only England or Wales, unless they have a direct impact on the Scottish budget.
Chris Bryant calling Cameron a bully again on twitter. Why do Labour MP's think this is a good tactic, exactly? Especially as it always seems to to surface after a PMQ's where their leader is, once again, awful.
In an exclusive interview with BBC political editor Nick Robinson, Scotland's First Minister Nicola Sturgeon has said SNP MPs will vote on the English NHS after the next election, arguing that this is necessary to protect the Scottish NHS from knock-on effects of cuts and privatisation in England. Traditionally the SNP position at Westminster is not to vote on matters which affect only England or Wales, unless they have a direct impact on the Scottish budget.
Chris Bryant calling Cameron a bully again on twitter. Why do Labour MP's think this is a good tactic, exactly? Especially as it always seems to to surface after a PMQ's where their leader is, once again, awful.
Indeed. Portraying Ed as a victim is hardly a vote winner.
Chris Bryant calling Cameron a bully again on twitter. Why do Labour MP's think this is a good tactic, exactly? Especially as it always seems to to surface after a PMQ's where their leader is, once again, awful.
Bryant seems to be having a 'making a right c*** of myself' week.
What may or may not have been explicitly stated isn't the same as how a comment is hoped to be perceived. It allows politicians to be economical with the truth without telling actual porkies.
Not just politicians mind. The media are just as guilty of turning a comment into policy - heck even into a "law" (without all that tedious process through the houses stuff) that a lot of people get confused.
Indeed. Portraying Ed as a victim is hardly a vote winner.
Indeed. He is just drawing attention to the fact that Ed is incapable of sticking up for himself. Making Miliband look weak and helpless which in itself is easy to do. Ed is like a goalkeeper standing in goal in one position without moving just waiting for Cameron to foot the ball in the huge open space.
For someone who cannot even effectively lead his party what chance would one give Miliband representing his country on the world's stage in from of other leaders he looks like some sort of geeky character in a school standing in the playground looking like little boy lost.
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And they will balance it with one saying the opposite. DP is not partial.
UKIP can't even get their Manifesto out - not very democratic.
Twitter helps Ukip out with manifesto after policy chief ‘fails to deliver’
#MyUkipManifesto suggestions flood Twitter after ‘sacking’ of Ukip’s policymaker
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ukip/11356929/Twitter-helps-Ukip-out-with-manifesto-after-policy-chief-fails-to-deliver.html
Helping to write the UKIP manifesto would have been a great thread on here!
Farage was very scathing of his own parties last manifesto, quite publically ridiculing and binning it in fact. They've just dropped their head of policy and Cameron was quoting Farage's known opinion not UKIP policy when answering the turncoat.
They normally read out contrary opinions on how the exchanges went. No such luck for Ed today. Conclusion? He really was that bad.
He may well have been. The point I was adressing was
Which he clearly wasn't
Not at all clear as far as I am concerned.
The program's available on iplayer.
I think it was more about ridiculing Reckless for asking a question on a topic that is a bit of an unknown as far as his new bedfellows are concerned rather than anything else.
What may or may not have been explicitly stated isn't the same as how a comment is hoped to be perceived. It allows politicians to be economical with the truth without telling actual porkies.
That, regrettably is the art of politics.
Ed and Dave are the only people to be involved in more 0-0 draws than Villa!!
Is this your first visit to Earth
Cameron's a politician. Politicians don't answer questions directly as it could get them into trouble further down the line. Andrew Neil spent 10 minutes at the start of today's Daily Politics trying, unsuccessfully, to get Labour's Sadiq Khan to answer a question. Andrew Neil gave up eventually after admitting failure.
Attempting to get any politician to answer a question be they Labour, Tory or LibDem is only slightly less of a challenge than nailing jelly to a barn door.
What programme?
I could go digging and find things Ed and Dave said a few years ago and it not be policy today.
In an exclusive interview with BBC political editor Nick Robinson, Scotland's First Minister Nicola Sturgeon has said SNP MPs will vote on the English NHS after the next election, arguing that this is necessary to protect the Scottish NHS from knock-on effects of cuts and privatisation in England. Traditionally the SNP position at Westminster is not to vote on matters which affect only England or Wales, unless they have a direct impact on the Scottish budget.
Why would you? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-30877758
UKIP leader Nigel Farage says the idea of replacing the NHS with an insurance-based system is "a debate that we're all going to have to return to".
Mr Farage told BBC political editor Nick Robinson his backing for the idea had been rejected by his party.
He denied he had "bottled it" by saying UKIP was now committed to the NHS.
He added: "There is no question that healthcare provision is going to have to be very much greater... and we're going to have to find ways to do it."
Very worrying that these people are running our country (into the ground)
and equally worrying that they still have (gullible) supporters.
Slagging off toffs seems to be his mantra.
Playing into Cameron's hands.
And Farage will have a field day.
Indeed. Portraying Ed as a victim is hardly a vote winner.
Bryant seems to be having a 'making a right c*** of myself' week.
Can Democracy Work? There's some interesting bits in it. Part one of a three parter
I have a sneaking suspicion you might hear that on next weeks episode given it's Nick Robinson's show
Not just politicians mind. The media are just as guilty of turning a comment into policy - heck even into a "law" (without all that tedious process through the houses stuff) that a lot of people get confused.
Indeed. He is just drawing attention to the fact that Ed is incapable of sticking up for himself. Making Miliband look weak and helpless which in itself is easy to do. Ed is like a goalkeeper standing in goal in one position without moving just waiting for Cameron to foot the ball in the huge open space.
For someone who cannot even effectively lead his party what chance would one give Miliband representing his country on the world's stage in from of other leaders he looks like some sort of geeky character in a school standing in the playground looking like little boy lost.