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Green Party Wants to Put the Queen in a council house - and so it begins!

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    blueisthecolourblueisthecolour Posts: 20,129
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    LostFool wrote: »
    Do you include this as another "fabulous reason"

    source: http://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/554004/Queen-HOMELESS-Green-Party-council-house

    So the Greens want to spend £280 billion (BILLION!!) each year giving everyone £71 a week regardless of whether they need it or not?

    £280 billion is more than is currently raised by income tax and NI on the whole population combined so goodness knows how many of these "wealthy" people the Greens think exist or how much money they have.

    Once again: shock as radical left wing party has radical left wing policies.

    The Greens don't play by the same capitalist rules as everyone else. They imagine a completely different economy and society to what we have today, so to pick out a few policies here and there is pointless.
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    AndyCopenAndyCopen Posts: 2,213
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    Because 'Property is theft'.

    Just because someone has money it doesn't mean they can buy stolen goods.

    Working hard has nothing to do with it. There are plenty of people who have inherited land and homes.

    People shouldn't own land or property, they should just live on their far share of the earth as a right of birth.

    Set foot on my land and i will set the dogs on you.

    If you want to steal it, come and get it !
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    koantemplationkoantemplation Posts: 101,293
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    AndyCopen wrote: »
    Set foot on my land and i will set the dogs on you.

    If you want to steal it, come and get it !

    Dogs won't be much good against tanks.
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    smudges dadsmudges dad Posts: 36,989
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    MARTYM8 wrote: »
    The Leader of the Green party has said in an interview in the Times they would put the Queen, Kate and Wills and the rest of the royal family into one of the new council houses they are proposing to build, confiscate £430m of the Queen's money, flog off Buckingham Palace and Windsor Castle and abolish the monarchy.

    http://www.itv.com/news/update/2015-01-24/green-party-plans-to-ship-queen-into-council-house/


    http://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/554004/Queen-HOMELESS-Green-Party-council-house

    Given their recent rise in the polls I knew it was only a matter of time before we started seeing these sorts of stories! Given the media onslaught on UKIP I do have some sympathy - albeit mixed with a little schadenfreude.:D

    And there is plenty more to come.

    Essentially they are in a few big council houses at the moment and somehow escape the bedroom tax.
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    koantemplationkoantemplation Posts: 101,293
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    Annsyre wrote: »
    I don't agree.

    Yes I know, and the American South once didn't agree with the Amercian North about the right to own slaves.
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    ArcticchrisArcticchris Posts: 682
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    LostFool wrote: »
    Do you include this as another "fabulous reason"

    source: http://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/554004/Queen-HOMELESS-Green-Party-council-house

    So the Greens want to spend £280 billion (BILLION!!) each year giving everyone £71 a week regardless of whether they need it or not?

    £280 billion is more than is currently raised by income tax and NI on the whole population combined so goodness knows how many of these "wealthy" people the Greens think exist or how much money they have.

    I could certainly do with this hand out personally but yes tbf I don't really understand what the thinking is behind this policy.
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    AndyCopenAndyCopen Posts: 2,213
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    I could certainly do with this hand out personally but yes tbf I don't really understand what the thinking is behind this policy.

    socialists want to steal all your stuff and make everyone equally "poor", because it's "fair"

    Green's are just socialists who like organic yougurt, hemp and windmills
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    koantemplationkoantemplation Posts: 101,293
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    AndyCopen wrote: »
    socialists want to steal all your stuff and make everyone equally "poor", because it's "fair"

    Green's are just socialists who like organic yougurt, hemp and windmills

    While Capitalists want to make the 1% rich and everyone else work for them.
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    LostFoolLostFool Posts: 90,683
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    I could certainly do with this hand out personally but yes tbf I don't really understand what the thinking is behind this policy.

    If someone is in real poverty then £71 a week isn't going to make that much difference. If you are on a decent income then it's going to be little more than some extra pocket money.

    So for a cost of over a quarter of a trillion pounds (more than twice the NHS budget) you are not going to make a significant difference to most people. It would be a total waste of money - assuming you could find a way of raising that amount form the "1%" in the first place.
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    hansuehansue Posts: 14,228
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    AndyCopen wrote: »
    socialists want to steal all your stuff and make everyone equally "poor", because it's "fair"

    Green's are just socialists who like organic yougurt, hemp and windmills

    Nothing will ever be fair. There will always be the haves and have nots as some people are more careful with their money.

    I am not jealous of anyone who has money. I worked hard all my life and I am more than happy with what I have got. I am not rich by any manner of means.

    There are too many people in this Country who want something for nothing.
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    Jol44Jol44 Posts: 21,048
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    A political party who are actually against the ludicrous and ridiculous royals.

    Thank f.... for that.
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    AftershowAftershow Posts: 10,021
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    Property is theft.

    All property? Or just property over and above what you yourself own?
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    koantemplationkoantemplation Posts: 101,293
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    Aftershow wrote: »
    All property? Or just property over and above what you yourself own?

    Well obviously people need to have things to do things, such as cars to travel.

    But food and shelter should be free and shared equally.

    Then every thing else can be worked for but shared more equally than it is now, so that the 1% don't get to hoard everything.
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    LostFoolLostFool Posts: 90,683
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    Well obviously people need to have things to do things, such as cars to travel.

    But food and shelter should be free and shared equally.

    Why shouldn't cars be free too? Surely being able to travel is a human right! I suppose you would have to make clothes, the internet, computers and holidays free as well to make things fair.

    If a stranger knocked on your door tonight you'd invite them in for a meal and let them sleep in your spare bed? You must feel awful owning those things when someone else could benefit from them.
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    EnnerjeeEnnerjee Posts: 5,131
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    People shouldn't own land or property, they should just live on their far share of the earth as a right of birth.

    Are you having a Saturday night "smoke-in" on the peace pipe?

    Ever since cave men set up camp for their families, land has been "owned". What's a "fair share" and who decides? You'd need a benevolent dictatorship to decide that, and they're not very common.
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    LostFoolLostFool Posts: 90,683
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    Ennerjee wrote: »
    Are you having a Saturday night "smoke-in"?

    Ever since cave men set up camp for their families land has been "owned". What's a "fair share" and who decides? You'd need a benevolent dictatorship to decide that and they're not very commonly

    The State will decide everything - where you can live, how much money you have, what you are allowed to do for a living, eat, drive, wear and travel. There will be no point in voting because The State will know best and won't allow personal choice to interfere in the proper running of The State.
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    EnnerjeeEnnerjee Posts: 5,131
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    LostFool wrote: »
    The State will decide everything - where you can live, how much money you have, what you are allowed to do for a living, eat, drive, wear and travel. There will be no point in voting because The State will know best and won't allow personal choice to interfere in the proper running of The State.

    Ah, you mean like the Utopia known as North Korea?

    Is the Green Party going there on a fact-finding mission?
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    ArcticchrisArcticchris Posts: 682
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    Jol44 wrote: »
    A political party who are actually against the ludicrous and ridiculous royals.

    Thank f.... for that.

    +1 for that

    I reckon plenty of MP's agree with this but are unable to say so because they fear the backlash and technically would be going against their affirmation oath
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    koantemplationkoantemplation Posts: 101,293
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    LostFool wrote: »
    Why shouldn't cars be free too? Surely being able to travel is a human right! I suppose you would have to make clothes, the internet, computers and holidays free as well to make things fair.

    If a stranger knocked on your door tonight you'd invite them in for a meal and let them sleep in your spare bed? You must feel awful owning those things when someone else could benefit from them.

    It is a start, as society evolves more and more things will become free.

    But keep trying to make out it is a bad thing. Because it is not like people aren't starving and homeless now. It is just happening out of your sight.
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    InspirationInspiration Posts: 62,731
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    And how will they make up the short fall in tourism money that our monarchy brings in?
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    LostFoolLostFool Posts: 90,683
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    And how will they make up the short fall in tourism money that our monarchy brings in?

    That amount will be trivial in comparison to the money lost when major employers and anybody wanting any financial and personal freedom leaves the country.
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    JCRJCR Posts: 24,120
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    You'd have to completely change the political system if you got rid of the monarchy. Greens might be less keen on getting rid of them if they thought about who the President might be; President Blair? President Boris?!?

    Anyway, it's not the silliest thing in their manifesto, that would be people can “choose their own types and patterns of work”, and will allow people to take up “personally satisfying and socially useful work”. Cost- somewhere between £240-280 billion a year.

    http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2015/01/welcome-to-the-bonkers-world-of-the-green-party-manifesto/
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    LostFoolLostFool Posts: 90,683
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    JCR wrote: »
    You'd have to completely change the political system if you got rid of the monarchy. Greens might be less keen on getting rid of them if they thought about who the President might be; President Blair? President Boris?!?

    Anyway, it's not the silliest thing in their manifesto, that would be people can “choose their own types and patterns of work”, and will allow people to take up “personally satisfying and socially useful work”. Cost- somewhere between £240-280 billion a year.

    http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2015/01/welcome-to-the-bonkers-world-of-the-green-party-manifesto/

    There are some fantastic policies in that article. I've seen more sense in the Monster Raving Loony Party manifesto.

    "All elements of the sex industry will be decriminalised, and prostitutes could no longer be discriminated against in child custody cases." - err... apart from Page 3 of The Sun, of course!
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    alfamalealfamale Posts: 10,309
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    The Green Party have a manifesto unlikemany other parties (and its quite detailed, has more than 6 points and wouldn't fit on the back of a **** packet). So there's no reason to quote a Spectator blog or 'Diana loving weather obsessed often factually incorrect' Express.
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    LostFoolLostFool Posts: 90,683
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    alfamale wrote: »
    The Green Party have a manifesto unlikemany other parties (and its quite detailed, has more than 6 points and wouldn't fit on the back of a **** packet). So there's no reason to quote a Spectator blog or 'Diana loving weather obsessed often factually incorrect' Express.

    So how many of those policies do you agree with?
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