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Premier League to sell rights to 168 live games; tender issued today.

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    casinoman13casinoman13 Posts: 7,095
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    stv viewer wrote: »
    Same does anyone think ITV will have bidded for the weakest package

    In a word or so.....No chance.
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    rammie96rammie96 Posts: 497
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    Does not surprise me in the slightest, I have a big feeling now its all between Sky and BT.

    I also very much doubt Bein put any bids in.
    It would be a massive, massive gamble to splash that much money on effectively setting up a whole new business.

    I'd be interested to know how many actual paying subscribers BT has - compared to those getting it free. Because that must be an indication of how easy it is to get people to break the 'Sky habit'.

    Setanta and ESPN clearly failed.
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    JudioJudio Posts: 11,836
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    Mark. wrote: »
    Some places don't have any trains at all on Boxing Day but still manage to host football matches.

    I know but I was talking about putting a game on at 8
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    casinoman13casinoman13 Posts: 7,095
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    rob1973 wrote: »
    There's nothing on the SSN twitter feed tho.

    Or on BT's twitter page.
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    fodg09fodg09 Posts: 3,602
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    Hearing rumours from a decent source that #Sky have lost out on UK #PremierLeague rights to bids from #Qatar. We'll soon see...

    https://twitter.com/TMFootyFinance/status/565164799861219328
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    stv viewerstv viewer Posts: 17,580
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    In a word or so.....No chance.

    It would be interesting of they did but its down to the money
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    JudioJudio Posts: 11,836
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    Maybe the Bidders dont know either !!!
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    Gavin_DGavin_D Posts: 2,005
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    Maybe of little significance, who knows, but BT shares now up 1.05 whilst Sky down .21

    Sky are up +0.26%
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    BenFranklinBenFranklin Posts: 5,814
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    speculator wrote: »
    The mailonline has an interesting article about tv money. West Brom who avoided relegation and earned £65 million. Atletico Madrid who "only" won the La Liga and runners-up in the Champions League managed with only £31 million (compared to £103 million that Real and Barcelona earned).

    IMHO it is how you spend the money - not how much. If clubs sold their tv rights separately, would not change the Premier League status quo. Last season Liverpool earned the most and one of the most popular clubs would do the same if rights were sold by club. It would just mean that relegation-threatening clubs like QPR would spend their money more conservative instead of overpaying for benchwarmers.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-2947455/Europe-s-TV-money-list-Manchester-United-earned-treble-Bayern-Munich.html

    Atletico are very much an exception to the trend, you can't really use them to argue against collective bargaining ffs.
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    TLG86TLG86 Posts: 11,673
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    mlt11 wrote: »
    I guess one question is if Sky lost C (BT had C and A) how would they handle Liv/Man U and Man U/Man C without either early slot and no controlling 2nd pick?

    If PL allow these games to be "1st picked", where can they be played?

    I'm sure that sort of thing is covered in the tender document. There's always the Sunday 12noon slot too.
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    casinoman13casinoman13 Posts: 7,095
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    pjexpjex Posts: 9,417
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    Sky will want to keep control of the run in, if there are 2 teams in it they need to have control of 1st and 2nd picks so packages D and C will be critical to them and I can see them allowing BT both Saturday packs to secure Sundays.

    E, F and G are then a battle not sure where these will end up and will determine who has the stronger hand.

    My latest guess is BT A and B, Sky the rest. BT drop down to 15 1st picks from 18 but all of these at weekends as opposed to 13 at present.
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    Gavin_DGavin_D Posts: 2,005
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    Packages in detail for those who don't know

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9flYINIUAADIvy.jpg
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    stv viewerstv viewer Posts: 17,580
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    Sky will Win the majority, Rupert Murdoch will make sure they do as it will be a Titanic moment for Sky if they lose out to Bein or BT
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    rammie96rammie96 Posts: 497
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    Very sad if at all true.

    I assumed that was a WC 2022 related joke.
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    1andrew11andrew1 Posts: 4,088
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    Gavin_D wrote: »
    Sky are up +0.26%
    Sky shares fell at 8am but since then have recovered a bit. These live graphs show the picture of Sky and BT today.
    http://www.lse.co.uk/SharePrice.asp?SharePrice=sky&goButton=Go
    http://www.lse.co.uk/shareprice.asp?shareprice=BT.A&share=bt_group_plc_ord_5p
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    stv viewerstv viewer Posts: 17,580
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    Can someone explain pack F and G
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    mogzyboymogzyboy Posts: 6,437
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    For those who can't get to a telly, Adam Parsons from 5 Live Money has tweeted that there will be coverage on BBC Radio 5 Live.
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    mlt11mlt11 Posts: 21,103
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    fodg09 wrote: »

    Sky shares still holding steady.

    If Sky has lost big time they would prefer to lose to beIN rather than BT - as no phone/broadband competition and beIN will be platform neutral.

    Of course if beIN did win 5 packages, then that would leave the question of who has won the other two - one of Sky and BT would end up with nothing!
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    stv viewerstv viewer Posts: 17,580
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    Gavin_D wrote: »
    Packages in detail for those who don't know

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9flYINIUAADIvy.jpg

    Thanks for that Gavin_D
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    blueisthecolourblueisthecolour Posts: 20,129
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    Mark. wrote: »
    Easily. And in normal slots, not stupidly early or stupidly late:

    12.30pm
    3pm
    5.30pm
    8pm

    Or if you prefer an early slot:

    12pm
    2.15pm
    4.15pm
    7pm

    Think about it though. At the expected £4.4bn cost of the rights it means each game costs on average £26m. Ok, the bank holiday package will be relatively cheaper than the main ones but still you're looking at £20m a game in all probability. So the broadcaster that wins that package is going to be airing £80 million worth of football on one day!!
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    mlt11mlt11 Posts: 21,103
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    Gavin_D wrote: »
    Packages in detail for those who don't know

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9flYINIUAADIvy.jpg

    Posted on here first!
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    stv viewerstv viewer Posts: 17,580
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    mlt11 wrote: »
    Posted on here first!

    Cheeky wee bit of advertising mlt11
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    casinoman13casinoman13 Posts: 7,095
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    mlt11 wrote: »
    Sky shares still holding steady.

    If Sky has lost big time they would prefer to lose to beIN rather than BT - as no phone/broadband competition and beIN will be platform neutral.

    Of course if beIN did win 5 packages, then that would leave the question of who has won the other two - one of Sky and BT would end up with nothing!

    Interesting on that assumption that Charles Sale did tweet about 2 packages BT would be happy with
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    mlt11mlt11 Posts: 21,103
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    Think about it though. At the expected £4.4bn cost of the rights it means each game costs on average £26m. Ok, the bank holiday package will be relatively cheaper than the main ones but still you're looking at £20m a game in all probability. So the broadcaster that wins that package is going to be airing £80 million worth of football on one day!!

    £8.7m actually - the suggested £4.4bn is for 3 years.
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