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Pace Sky+HD problems

[Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 22
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Hi folks,

Since the last update for this box before Christmas, my box has just got progressively worse and worse. It now crashes every other day or so; just locks up and won't respond to the remote, staying in playback or the channel its on, bring it ut of standby and the screen can stay black or blue or sometimes even the programme info banner but no picture. Generally its just incredibly slow moving channels and navigating the TV guide etc. Have rebooted, reinstalled firmware from satellite and rebuilt planner, all to no effect.

It doesn't seem to have been having problems with TV guide and series links (my parents DRX890 is).

I modded it to have a 1TB WD AV disk in it at new.

Are other Pace box owners having these types of probs? Any ideas?

Thanks in advance.

Dan.
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    d'@ved'@ve Posts: 45,541
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    Me too! I have had to do 2 or 3 unplugs at the mains in the last month to fix lockups.

    Though to be fair, the only problem I've noticed in the last week has been its horrendously slooooow response to commands at times. If I persist, thinking I've not pressed a key, it locks up so I have learned to be patient. Just now for example, while recording one channel then starting to record a second channel, it took 25 seconds to switch to the second channel (so I could watch as well as record it) after I'd commanded it to switch channels, from the EPG. If I'd kept on pressing keys, it would have locked up again!

    But as my Tesco Pace is getting a bit long in the tooth now, and as I am now in the process of switching to BT Youview, I haven't reported this to Sky, who will probably just try to send me a new box and 12 month contract. Nope!
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    rewindrewind Posts: 2,636
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    Same has been happening to my Mum's one as well for a number of weeks so obviously not isolated.
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    coopermanyorkscoopermanyorks Posts: 21,215
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    How old are these Pace Boxes ?
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    grumpyoldjoegrumpyoldjoe Posts: 835
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    rewind wrote: »
    Same has been happening to my Mum's one as well for a number of weeks so obviously not isolated.

    Your not alone
    34 pages of unhappy users on the following
    http://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Sky-boxes/SKy-HD-Box-Keeps-Locking-Up-very-annoying/td-p/2176071
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 22
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    Thanks d'@ve, used the "patient" method for some time but recently its just gone nuts.

    Thanks grumpyoldjoe and David_Ayling, I knew they knew about the series link/tvguide issue but not the Pace and apparently Samsung too. Appears we have to wait.
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    scepticsceptic Posts: 400
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    How old are these Pace Boxes ?

    They could be as old as 2007 I think. Personally I would recommend an upgrade to newer/faster hardware such as the Drx-890.
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    Marti SMarti S Posts: 5,798
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    It's now being reported on The Register http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/02/17/sky_set_top_box_broken/

    Sky have been dragging their hands for months on this and only in the last week or two have they acknowledged that their is a firmware problem.

    They have promised an update today when speaking to the Register but I suspect they had their fingers crossed at the time.
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    coopermanyorkscoopermanyorks Posts: 21,215
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    sceptic wrote: »
    They could be as old as 2007 I think. Personally I would recommend an upgrade to newer/faster hardware such as the Drx-890.


    I agree,its 2015 so the Pace and Samsung boxes are old outdated equipment and need replacing

    What next a swap out deal like the Thomson boxes ?
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    DxfatassDxfatass Posts: 726
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    Mine has been playing-up like described in this thread. The performance of the box has gradually struggled with the larger updates in recent years, but recently it really has become difficult. If Sky have a fix to this then I look forward to the next update.

    What's the situation like with getting new boxes from Sky these days? The offers on the My Sky account on the website suggests they'd want £149 for the 2tb box given I've already had the full pack basically since joining Sky right back in 1991. Is it a case of threatening to cancel before they make you a decent offer on new boxes?
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    F2kSelF2kSel Posts: 1,327
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    I think mines an Amstrad but it's also been a pain since the last update. 2yrs old.

    Missing the end of recordings.
    Very slow to boot and slow to navigate the menus from time to time.
    Lock ups two or three times a month.
    Sometimes certain functions just refuse to work until I reboot.
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    whitestripe7whitestripe7 Posts: 111
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    Another hugely frustrated Pace Box owner here.

    Having to turn off at the wall at least every two days now, mostly on a daily basis, for the same reasons everyone else is talking about.

    Really poor stuff from a provider who charges a premium for their services.
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    eskimo48eskimo48 Posts: 44
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    I've also been having the same problem with box freezing. Seems to last around 3-4 days before freezing. One solution could be to re-boot the box every 3 days before it freezes.

    Was thinking about changing box, but quite expensive, especially as it seems the problem could be caused by Sky upgrading software. My box is 5 years old, so should still last for several years .

    Sky has announced that it will give an update on the problem this week (not necessarily solving it though). Of course, fixing the software issue (problems with epg etc) may not cure the boxes freezing.
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    eskimo48eskimo48 Posts: 44
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    Dxfatass wrote: »
    Mine has been playing-up like described in this thread. The performance of the box has gradually struggled with the larger updates in recent years, but recently it really has become difficult. If Sky have a fix to this then I look forward to the next update.

    What's the situation like with getting new boxes from Sky these days? The offers on the My Sky account on the website suggests they'd want £149 for the 2tb box given I've already had the full pack basically since joining Sky right back in 1991. Is it a case of threatening to cancel before they make you a decent offer on new boxes?

    I was quoted £499 - reduced as special offer to £249 + delivery for the 2T box, although I only asked for an upgrade, not because I was having problems with my Pace Box freezing. I have heard of others being given reductions in monthly fees by cancelling (not by threatening to cancel). They seem to get e-mails a few days before the end of their 1 month cancellation period. NOTE have to have ticked boxes on their account to receive Sky offers.
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    DxfatassDxfatass Posts: 726
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    eskimo48 wrote: »
    I was quoted £499 - reduced as special offer to £249 + delivery for the 2T box

    :o

    I was going by this text in the small print of the My Sky upgrade offers section:

    "Sky+HD 2TB box: ...Existing Sky TV customers with the Family Bundle or other Sky HD subscription and new customers joining Sky TV with the Family Bundle are entitled to one Sky+HD 2TB box for £149. One discounted 1TB or 2TB box per household. "

    Still seemed excessive given what we are paying them every month, but compared to what they quoted you that seems generous of them >:(
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 13
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    Hi,

    I have a Samsung box and have been having the same issues (as detailed on the now locked sky user forum).

    I read a post somewhere that disconnecting the box from the internet seemed to help. So, last night I removed the wired ethernet connection from my box.

    The box immediately seemed to operate faster, with a noticeably reduced lag on button presses. So far, I'm nearly 2 days in with no further issues.

    Obviously, this is no fix for those with on demand or who use their box for catch up TV, but it may help someone.
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    eskimo48eskimo48 Posts: 44
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    Dxfatass wrote: »
    :o

    I was going by this text in the small print of the My Sky upgrade offers section:

    "Sky+HD 2TB box: ...Existing Sky TV customers with the Family Bundle or other Sky HD subscription and new customers joining Sky TV with the Family Bundle are entitled to one Sky+HD 2TB box for £149. One discounted 1TB or 2TB box per household. "

    Still seemed excessive given what we are paying them every month, but compared to what they quoted you that seems generous of them >:(

    I think the £149 is for upgrading to the 2T box from a non Sky+HD box, and would have an increase in charges. I saw this price £149 on my screen, but when I looked in my personal upgrade section, no mention of upgrading to 2T at all.
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    scepticsceptic Posts: 400
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    Dxfatass wrote: »
    What's the situation like with getting new boxes from Sky these days? The offers on the My Sky account on the website suggests they'd want £149 for the 2tb box given I've already had the full pack basically since joining Sky right back in 1991. Is it a case of threatening to cancel before they make you a decent offer on new boxes?

    I believe if you are a long time customer and are prepared to be persistent enough then its definitely possible to get this F.O.C. I'd recommend you contact them by email.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 14
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    I too am a Pace owner who has seen the box get slower and slower with every update. Now we get daily freezing as described taking 15 mins until it is usable again.

    So today I phoned Sky with the aim of getting a replacement at as low a cost as poss or I go to Virgin who will give me a 500GB TIVO box free.

    The options given were not that appealing.

    1 Take up Multi room £11.25 p/m

    2 Have a callout £65 and get a refurb (3mth warranty)

    3 Take out insurance with an insurance co they push and make a claim £60.

    I asked to cancel and was passed to another guy. Went through every again to be told they could only offer what was on the screen. The same as above.

    So after half an hour in all I cancelled. The laugh is the second guy asked if I really wanted to end my long loyalty (13 years). I replied my loyalty gets me nothing, a new customer will get a box free.

    He tried his best to knock Virgin. With Sky I own the box!? Own a pile of crap. And if my TIVO fails after a year it will be replaced. But if I poor liquid on my TIVO box I will be liable for the cost. Also said Virgins picture is not as good and they will put up the priced after a year.

    I've switched suppliers before so not concerned, it's Sky's business model which shocks me most. I guess if I called saying I need to reduce costs they would discount. But asked for a working box to watch their service and keep my money seems too much.
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    MartinPickeringMartinPickering Posts: 3,711
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    danbak wrote: »
    Since the last update for this box before Christmas, my box has just got progressively worse and worse.

    Which update (firmware version)? Is it R010.070.58.13P ?
    And which Digibox (number on the label)?
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    d'@ved'@ve Posts: 45,541
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    dthompso wrote: »
    I too am a Pace owner who has seen the box get slower and slower with every update. Now we get daily freezing as described taking 15 mins until it is usable again.

    So today I phoned Sky with the aim of getting a replacement at as low a cost as poss or I go to Virgin who will give me a 500GB TIVO box free.

    The options given were not that appealing.

    1 Take up Multi room £11.25 p/m

    2 Have a callout £65 and get a refurb (3mth warranty)

    3 Take out insurance with an insurance co they push and make a claim £60.

    I asked to cancel and was passed to another guy. Went through every again to be told they could only offer what was on the screen. The same as above.

    So after half an hour in all I cancelled. The laugh is the second guy asked if I really wanted to end my long loyalty (13 years). I replied my loyalty gets me nothing, a new customer will get a box free.

    He tried his best to knock Virgin. With Sky I own the box!? Own a pile of crap. And if my TIVO fails after a year it will be replaced. But if I poor liquid on my TIVO box I will be liable for the cost. Also said Virgins picture is not as good and they will put up the priced after a year.

    I've switched suppliers before so not concerned, it's Sky's business model which shocks me most. I guess if I called saying I need to reduce costs they would discount. But asked for a working box to watch their service and keep my money seems too much.

    Did you buy the Pace yourself e.g. from Tesco? Or did you get it from Sky on a subsidised deal?

    Because AFAIK if you've never had a Sky+HD box subsidised from them i.e. bought it yourself at the time when you could, or off Ebay, you can get one as if a new customer.

    That's how it was a few years ago anyway when I made thet exact enquiry - but they had to refer upwards for clarification and it took them a while to come back with the answer. In the end, I declined because the Pace was working well back then (though Sky had tried to scare everyone into thinking there was a major issue that needed fixing) but the offer was there (eventually).

    Now that my Pace is finally getting long in the tooth I'm not going to try again because I am moving to BT Youview + Now TV, it will save me quite a lot of money due to mainstream Sky's compulsory £21.50 basic package before you can do anything else.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 14
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    I bought it from Sky when the previous box died. It was quite expensive like £100 or so, there may have been a small reduction as an offer at the time.
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    OrbitalzoneOrbitalzone Posts: 12,627
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    Pretty sure the Pace HD box didn't become available until about late 2008 - I wanted one to go with my new HD TV but got impatient and bought the awful Thomson box and regretted I didn't wait for the Pace. To be honest these Pace boxes are near the end of their typical set top box lifespan. I'm surprised Sky don't give out a new Amstrad box to anyone subscribing and complaining.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 22
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    I've had my Pace box since 2010 which I got from a trusted source, it was one of the very large batch that had to be recalled - 90,000 I think. I added a 1TB disk, copied across the programmes from my pace Sky+. Apart from the odd failed recording no real problems, except from the gradual slowing of it's response times to key presses, until the last update in november.

    I think there are probably tens of thousands of these boxes out there and they would be reluctant to set a precedent. I would, however, wager that dthompso gets a call before the 30 day cancellation period is up.
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    eskimo48eskimo48 Posts: 44
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    Hi,

    I have a Samsung box and have been having the same issues (as detailed on the now locked sky user forum).

    I read a post somewhere that disconnecting the box from the internet seemed to help. So, last night I removed the wired ethernet connection from my box.

    The box immediately seemed to operate faster, with a noticeably reduced lag on button presses. So far, I'm nearly 2 days in with no further issues.

    Obviously, this is no fix for those with on demand or who use their box for catch up TV, but it may help someone.

    I've just disconnected my pace box from plug in wireless internet to see if that makes any difference.

    Incidentally I raised an issue with Sky yesterday (online). Got a text message from them that they tried to contact my by landline & mobile - Didn't answer mobile ( as I was driving at time), so they just closed issue. Didn't even bother leaving message on answer phone ( on landline & mobile). Thought it was very nice of them.
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