I like to keep an open mind on issue but I tend to rely on proven fact. however it is worth considering options. The body is 70% water and the moon as we know has an effect on bodies of water so their maybe some link between the moon and moods. I am not saying there is of course just an example of possible links
However he is suggesting birth charts. Personally what day you born on I don't see how that matters or relates to health in any way.
And anyone who does not believe in Astrology is a Racist says a tory MP A Tory MP has urged the NHS to use astrology to treat its patients, while branding anyone that doesn’t believe in it "racist" (that’s astrology – as in the belief that there is a relationship between astronomical phenomena and events in the human world).
David Tredinnick said on Tuesday that divination has a "role to play in healthcare" and that employing prophecy in 21st century medicine would "take huge pressure off doctors". In an interview with the Astrological Journal, the MP for Bosworth in Leicestershire said: "I do believe that astrology and complementary medicine would help take the huge pressure off doctors."
Yes indeed, but it is spelt correctly in all my other posts about the Labour Party supporting PAEDophiles in Rotherham.
I was wondering why you felt the need to bring it up in a thread about alternative (i.e. barmy) therapies in the health service. Is it a knee jerk reaction to anything remotely critical of UKIP, or would you also bring it up in a discussion on how to change the spark plugs on a Fiat 127?
The man is a tit of the highest order. Regardless of his views I know for a fact that the last words to be expelled from a person having a heart attack are not "Get me an astrologer - STAT" nor would I ever expect to hear a resus officer asking "But is the Moon in Uranus" and basing their interventions on such claptrap.
As he tried to claim expenses for a course on intimate relationships and voted to exempt himself from Freedom of Information requests relating to his expenses I can only hope that this knob is booted out by his constituents (however as he has been voted back to the Commons since 1987 I don't hold my breath)
Am more concerned that the powers that be decided that he would be the perfect candidate for the chair of the All-Party Parliamentary Group for Integrated Healthcare and has been for over a decade. Evidence based healthcare hangs its head in disgust
The man is a tit of the highest order. Regardless of his views I know for a fact that the last words to be expelled from a person having a heart attack are not "Get me an astrologer - STAT" nor would I ever expect to hear a resus officer asking "But is the Moon in Uranus" and basing their interventions on such claptrap.
As he tried to claim expenses for a course on intimate relationships and voted to exempt himself from Freedom of Information requests relating to his expenses I can only hope that this knob is booted out by his constituents (however as he has been voted back to the Commons since 1987 I don't hold my breath)
Am more concerned that the powers that be decided that he would be the perfect candidate for the chair of the All-Party Parliamentary Group for Integrated Healthcare and has been for over a decade. Evidence based healthcare hangs its head in disgust
l have to report that it's a safe Conservative seat (Bosworth) and it didn't even turn red in 1997 - that's how safe it is. Barring a new sleaze revelation a la Jack $traw, Tredinnick is likely to be an MP for another 5 years.
Yes. Because of course, despite the fact that only *one* person is mentioned, obviously ALL Tories think like this.
....there's never a roll-eyes smiley when you need one...
We agree, I really don't see what bearing his politics has on the subject, an idiot is an idiot no matter what his/her politics are,
Although one doesn't need a star chart to know what some would be saying had it been a Labour MP coming out with this utter mumbo jumbo supporting garbage.
Anyone with even the most rudimentary understanding of astronomy knows that astrology is just cack,
We look up at the sky from our particular position in the universe, and thousands of years ago human beings who had no understanding of the nature of the universe thought they saw patterns in the stars and gave these groups of patterns names, they also noticed that some of these stars seemed to 'wander about' these stars ended up being called 'planets' which I believe translates into "wandering star"
But if we were to, for example lookup at the same section of sky but from Mars, we would of course see a totally different set of patterns, that's because these patterns in the sky are not drawn on a flat piece of paper they are 3 dimensional some of the stars are much closer to us some are millions of light years further away from us and indeed the other stars in their constellation and actually have no relationship to each other whatsoever,
and HOW on Earth (quite literally) a bunch of stars which appear to form a pattern from where we are standing, each of them light years, in some cases tens of thousands of light years away from each other and us,
(meaning that NONE of them are actually where we see them, but we are seeing them as they were thousands if not millions of years ago)
can somehow co-operate their 'powers' to influence whether I will meet a tall dark stranger tomorrow , (and only me from the billions of people on this planet based on where and when I was born) is utter bollox, and belongs in the same box as the flat earth theory and the one that said if we go faster than the speed of a galloping horse our lungs will explode.
Still, some folk make a nice little earner out of it.
Maybe what he really meant was with the way things go and with NHS Managers receiving huge wage packets and wasting money whilst Nurses etc work like crazy that sooner or later Mystic Meg will have a better idea of when you get your OP than an overworked Doctor will.
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However he is suggesting birth charts. Personally what day you born on I don't see how that matters or relates to health in any way.
David Tredinnick said on Tuesday that divination has a "role to play in healthcare" and that employing prophecy in 21st century medicine would "take huge pressure off doctors". In an interview with the Astrological Journal, the MP for Bosworth in Leicestershire said: "I do believe that astrology and complementary medicine would help take the huge pressure off doctors."
Well I guess Uranus will be prominent in managing bowel and gastrointestinal complaints so who knows!
Yes. Because of course, despite the fact that only *one* person is mentioned, obviously ALL Tories think like this.
....there's never a roll-eyes smiley when you need one...
Oh good grief, and I suppose Labour didn't support pedophiles in Rotherham .
Yes indeed, but it is spelt correctly in all my other posts about the Labour Party supporting PAEDophiles in Rotherham.
The man is a tit of the highest order. Regardless of his views I know for a fact that the last words to be expelled from a person having a heart attack are not "Get me an astrologer - STAT" nor would I ever expect to hear a resus officer asking "But is the Moon in Uranus" and basing their interventions on such claptrap.
As he tried to claim expenses for a course on intimate relationships and voted to exempt himself from Freedom of Information requests relating to his expenses I can only hope that this knob is booted out by his constituents (however as he has been voted back to the Commons since 1987 I don't hold my breath)
Am more concerned that the powers that be decided that he would be the perfect candidate for the chair of the All-Party Parliamentary Group for Integrated Healthcare and has been for over a decade. Evidence based healthcare hangs its head in disgust
I might read the horoscopes in a magazine lying around in the dentist's waiting room. Sometimes it's good to have a laugh.:D
l have to report that it's a safe Conservative seat (Bosworth) and it didn't even turn red in 1997 - that's how safe it is. Barring a new sleaze revelation a la Jack $traw, Tredinnick is likely to be an MP for another 5 years.
It already is. Places like the Bristol Homeopathic Hospital have been around for decades
Russell Grant to stand for Parliament with Mystic Meg and Jonathan Cainer in support as part of his campaign team.t
We agree, I really don't see what bearing his politics has on the subject, an idiot is an idiot no matter what his/her politics are,
Although one doesn't need a star chart to know what some would be saying had it been a Labour MP coming out with this utter mumbo jumbo supporting garbage.
Anyone with even the most rudimentary understanding of astronomy knows that astrology is just cack,
We look up at the sky from our particular position in the universe, and thousands of years ago human beings who had no understanding of the nature of the universe thought they saw patterns in the stars and gave these groups of patterns names, they also noticed that some of these stars seemed to 'wander about' these stars ended up being called 'planets' which I believe translates into "wandering star"
But if we were to, for example lookup at the same section of sky but from Mars, we would of course see a totally different set of patterns, that's because these patterns in the sky are not drawn on a flat piece of paper they are 3 dimensional some of the stars are much closer to us some are millions of light years further away from us and indeed the other stars in their constellation and actually have no relationship to each other whatsoever,
and HOW on Earth (quite literally) a bunch of stars which appear to form a pattern from where we are standing, each of them light years, in some cases tens of thousands of light years away from each other and us,
(meaning that NONE of them are actually where we see them, but we are seeing them as they were thousands if not millions of years ago)
can somehow co-operate their 'powers' to influence whether I will meet a tall dark stranger tomorrow , (and only me from the billions of people on this planet based on where and when I was born) is utter bollox, and belongs in the same box as the flat earth theory and the one that said if we go faster than the speed of a galloping horse our lungs will explode.
Still, some folk make a nice little earner out of it.