Anyone could have put forward a song, they contacted record companies too as well as acts from BBC Introducing inviting them to submit songs
I really like this approach as it focuses on the song rather than a name. A big name might submit a song and its the right one, or an unknown. What matyers is your not stuvk eiyhs name and a good dong they can't proform to well, 2013, or with a name and s dodgy song 2010.
if there is one song that really stands out why risk it with a national final with other songs and have a misunderstanding public vote through the wrong one.
And they are keeping us informed. I happy at the moment, of course things might change when i hear it
I really like this approach as it focuses on the song rather than a name. A big name might submit a song and its the right one, or an unknown. What matyers is your not stuvk eiyhs name and a good dong they can't proform to well, 2013, or with a name and s dodgy song 2010.
if there is one song that really stands out why risk it with a national final with other songs and have a misunderstanding public vote through the wrong one.
And they are keeping us informed. I happy at the moment, of course things might change when i hear it
I really like this approach as it focuses on the song rather than a name. A big name might submit a song and its the right one, or an unknown. [...] why risk it with a national final with other songs and have a misunderstanding public vote through the wrong one.
To be honest the approach of using BBC Introducing, picking songs without a public vote, getting someone uber-great at songwriting to specifically write a Eurovision song all haven't won us the Grand Prix in recent years and neither did we when in the not too distant past when we had a national final.
Personally I think let's just have the national final as it would be another hour of enjoyable tv.
We can all plan how we get the winning song or why a song wins Eurovision, but ultimately one year we'll stumble upon a song that sounds pretty good and just happens to be lucky and the rest of Europe think so too.
Would you believe me if i said it was an honest typo? And ive no idea what the previous typo was supposed to be. I'll blane the kepad not my in ability to type and pre read.
We can all plan how we get the winning song or why a song wins Eurovision, but ultimately one year we'll stumble upon a song that sounds pretty good and just happens to be lucky and the rest of Europe think so too.
You wonder quite how far away that year is, though.
Austria hadn't produced an international hit since Falco over 30 years ago. We are the biggest pop nation in Europe. We shouldn't have to wait years 'to stumble upon a song that sounds quite good'. The Swedes, Germans, Norwegians etc don't take that approach. Where's our ambition and drive? We're not useless old Portugal! (yet)
I'd like the Beeb to give us some little facts about the act on the days leading up to the reveal. But I suppose that takes some of the fun out of it. Unless they say something like, "They've been in the same room as Tom Jones." What singer hasn't?
I remember when I was young they used to pick an artist and then broadcast a show where the artist sang 6 songs then there was a public vote. After that we had different singers with different songs and now ? .....some sort of secret vote.
It's not a bad idea to choose a good professional singer and then have a vote but you've got to have a bunch of songs that really suit the artist. In the days where we used to vote for the 'act' and the song some real stinkers got chosen.
While I would agree that the public don't always pick the best song in a vote I'm not sure I like this 'behind closed doors' approach. It hasn't paid off so far.
The BBC wastes money on 'The Voice' (a karaoke show I really dislike) when instead they could have a really good song contest with singer songwriters showcasing good original material. Why don't they do this instead?
Our most recent highest-placing act - Jade Ewen - was chosen with a public vote.
Interestingly though, the song itself wasn't chosen - just the singer, and that was it. I think the music for the song was in place already, with ALW wanting to write a suitable set of lyrics for the singer chosen.
Well, that's how I remember it anyway
Personally I'm fine with public voting, but ONLY if the beeb can resist including some dumb novelty songs/acts amongst the lineup of more serious fare...because invariably the silly stuff is what will get picked, sadly.
To be honest the approach of using BBC Introducing, picking songs without a public vote, getting someone uber-great at songwriting to specifically write a Eurovision song all haven't won us the Grand Prix in recent years and neither did we when in the not too distant past when we had a national final.
Personally I think let's just have the national final as it would be another hour of enjoyable tv.
We can all plan how we get the winning song or why a song wins Eurovision, but ultimately one year we'll stumble upon a song that sounds pretty good and just happens to be lucky and the rest of Europe think so too.
Yes, we've had four internal selections in a row from the BBC and not one of those four has gotten near the top 10 in the final : it's not really good enough from one of the biggest broadcasters in Europe and the home of the largest music industry. Was last year's entry that good really? Got to #23 in the UK and flopped in the main around Europe.
The one thing that does annoy me with the whole "the public can't be trusted" argument is that they will only pick a crap song if the bbc had put a crap song into the selection for them to pick. If all songsput in to the selection were roughly as good as each other , and for six songs that's not too hard of an ask, then they would have quality to choose from. But having one song the bbc obviously wanted to put through and others to fill... if the public didn't want the one th ebbc did or it happened to be a bad proformance on the night night you get stuck with one of the others.
Yes, we've had four internal selections in a row from the BBC and not one of those four has gotten near the top 10 in the final : it's not really good enough from one of the biggest broadcasters in Europe and the home of the largest music industry. Was last year's entry that good really? Got to #23 in the UK and flopped in the main around Europe.
well to be fair Blue were only one place short of the top ten... but i totally agree with your general point.: our performance this last decade or so has been pitiful. Here's hoping this time next week we'll be excited about what we're sending this year.
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I really like this approach as it focuses on the song rather than a name. A big name might submit a song and its the right one, or an unknown. What matyers is your not stuvk eiyhs name and a good dong they can't proform to well, 2013, or with a name and s dodgy song 2010.
if there is one song that really stands out why risk it with a national final with other songs and have a misunderstanding public vote through the wrong one.
And they are keeping us informed. I happy at the moment, of course things might change when i hear it
Well that'd certainly see us hit the Top 10!
To be honest the approach of using BBC Introducing, picking songs without a public vote, getting someone uber-great at songwriting to specifically write a Eurovision song all haven't won us the Grand Prix in recent years and neither did we when in the not too distant past when we had a national final.
Personally I think let's just have the national final as it would be another hour of enjoyable tv.
We can all plan how we get the winning song or why a song wins Eurovision, but ultimately one year we'll stumble upon a song that sounds pretty good and just happens to be lucky and the rest of Europe think so too.
Would you believe me if i said it was an honest typo? And ive no idea what the previous typo was supposed to be. I'll blane the kepad not my in ability to type and pre read.
You wonder quite how far away that year is, though.
But I guess Austria thought the same.
Yep, hope springs eternal.
Austria hadn't produced an international hit since Falco over 30 years ago. We are the biggest pop nation in Europe. We shouldn't have to wait years 'to stumble upon a song that sounds quite good'. The Swedes, Germans, Norwegians etc don't take that approach. Where's our ambition and drive? We're not useless old Portugal! (yet)
I remember when I was young they used to pick an artist and then broadcast a show where the artist sang 6 songs then there was a public vote. After that we had different singers with different songs and now ? .....some sort of secret vote.
It's not a bad idea to choose a good professional singer and then have a vote but you've got to have a bunch of songs that really suit the artist. In the days where we used to vote for the 'act' and the song some real stinkers got chosen.
While I would agree that the public don't always pick the best song in a vote I'm not sure I like this 'behind closed doors' approach. It hasn't paid off so far.
The BBC wastes money on 'The Voice' (a karaoke show I really dislike) when instead they could have a really good song contest with singer songwriters showcasing good original material. Why don't they do this instead?
Interestingly though, the song itself wasn't chosen - just the singer, and that was it. I think the music for the song was in place already, with ALW wanting to write a suitable set of lyrics for the singer chosen.
Well, that's how I remember it anyway
Personally I'm fine with public voting, but ONLY if the beeb can resist including some dumb novelty songs/acts amongst the lineup of more serious fare...because invariably the silly stuff is what will get picked, sadly.
Yes, we've had four internal selections in a row from the BBC and not one of those four has gotten near the top 10 in the final : it's not really good enough from one of the biggest broadcasters in Europe and the home of the largest music industry. Was last year's entry that good really? Got to #23 in the UK and flopped in the main around Europe.
even more interesting was that Jade was parachuted in at the last minute when the initial favourite pulled out... a certain Rita Ora
Rita Ora for Eurovision 2015
well to be fair Blue were only one place short of the top ten... but i totally agree with your general point.: our performance this last decade or so has been pitiful. Here's hoping this time next week we'll be excited about what we're sending this year.
6 days time..after The Voice.