You guys aren't even trying to pretend you're not strawmanning feminists now, are you?
And no, there's no such thing as an "extreme feminist", except *maybe* Dworkin. And she's dead. It's like the whole "militant atheists" fad, which is weird, because a lot of the same people who really hated the phrase "militant atheists" for its obvious idiocy are the same people who are now going on about "extreme feminists".
I would say the feminists that suggest all men should die are extreme. And the feminists who say you can't be sexist or abusive to men.
If an atheist suggested all theists should die, I would probably call him a militant atheist, and would disagree with him.
I would class myself as a feminist, personally. Although, possibly more egalitarian, but some of these feminists make me weep. If a man said such things, there would be uproar.
[QUOTE=pickwick;77145812 like the whole "militant atheists" fad, which is weird, because a lot of the same people who really hated the phrase "militant atheists" for its obvious idiocy are the same people who are now going on about "extreme feminists".[/QUOTE]
When Gators find Vox Day to be a voice of reason, I'm not so sure about that!
I would say the feminists that suggest all men should die are extreme. And the feminists who say you can't be sexist or abusive to men.
If an atheist suggested all theists should die, I would probably call him a militant atheist, and would disagree with him.
I would class myself as a feminist, personally. Although, possibly more egalitarian, but some of these feminists make me weep. If a man said such things, there would be uproar.
No self-described feminist whinges about "extreme feminist" bogeymen like you do. You seem more interested in strawmanning all feminists to me. I must be speaking to different people than you, because I have never even read, let alone heard any feminist say that "men should die" - where do you read this exactly? "Some of these feminists" - who exactly? Seems like reactionary tosh to me
No self-described feminist whinges about "extreme feminist" bogeymen like you do. You seem more interested in strawmanning all feminists to me. I must be speaking to different people than you, because I have never even read, let alone heard any feminist say that "men should die" - where do you read this exactly? "Some of these feminists" - who exactly? Seems like reactionary tosh to me
Have you never read Tumblr? Forgive me if I don't scour it looking for evidence for you, but seriously, lol...
Anita gave another talk at NYU covered by gawker yet again https://archive.today/YBRhM http://i.imgur.com/3y0h89Y.png http://i.imgur.com/Iha4fHZ.png
Once again, she's talking to white hipsters, no actual diversity there, and her "acceptable female protagonists" are all bland..inoffensive... she's at the point now where she's complaining about how women in video games walk or sit.
You guys aren't even trying to pretend you're not strawmanning feminists now, are you?
And no, there's no such thing as an "extreme feminist", except *maybe* Dworkin. And she's dead. It's like the whole "militant atheists" fad, which is weird, because a lot of the same people who really hated the phrase "militant atheists" for its obvious idiocy are the same people who are now going on about "extreme feminists".
I could go on and on, but really, Anita Sarkeesian exists, and is held up in the media as unquestionable saints, and all she does is fear monger and demonize a huge group of people, setting back the image of gamers by a decade or more at this point. These are the normal "feminists" that are held up as the norm in the mainstream, to the point where as posted before the NPR's, the CBC's and even of course the BBC's of the world never bother to fact check them, what they say and what they represent is just assumed to be normal and right.
I like tumblr if ever there is a time we need to eliminate these people so the gene pool can remain strong we'll know where to find them.
I read a quote like that from Hitler at the beginning of the Holocaust exhibit at the Imperial War Museum. You disgust me.
I saw Nefrati's post earlier - all boo-hoo about Anita's eight suggestions, apparently he was upset that there would be less titillation for him to view when playing games.
I'd rather actually play games than indulge either of these immature posters continually bumping this thread with anti-feminist rants under the guise of 'ethics in journalism'.
Why don't Nefrati and Skybore go and post on The Escapist now they have eliminated any social commentary from controversial commentary from that site? I think they would be happier there being drip fed what EA, Ubisoft and the other corporations want to fed their juvenile minds.
I read a quote like that from Hitler at the beginning of the Holocaust exhibit at the Imperial War Museum. You disgust me.
I saw Nefrati's post earlier - all boo-hoo about Anita's eight suggestions, apparently he was upset that there would be less titillation for him to view when playing games.
I'd rather actually play games than indulge either of these immature posters continually bumping this thread with anti-feminist rants under the guise of 'ethics in journalism'.
Why don't Nefrati and Skybore go and post on The Escapist now they have eliminated any social commentary from controversial commentary from that site? I think they would be happier there being drip fed what EA, Ubisoft and the other corporations want to fed their juvenile minds.
I disgust you? nice to know that humour disgusts you..not that i am surprised your ilk are humourless.
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I would say the feminists that suggest all men should die are extreme. And the feminists who say you can't be sexist or abusive to men.
If an atheist suggested all theists should die, I would probably call him a militant atheist, and would disagree with him.
I would class myself as a feminist, personally. Although, possibly more egalitarian, but some of these feminists make me weep. If a man said such things, there would be uproar.
When Gators find Vox Day to be a voice of reason, I'm not so sure about that!
No self-described feminist whinges about "extreme feminist" bogeymen like you do. You seem more interested in strawmanning all feminists to me. I must be speaking to different people than you, because I have never even read, let alone heard any feminist say that "men should die" - where do you read this exactly? "Some of these feminists" - who exactly? Seems like reactionary tosh to me
Have you never read Tumblr? Forgive me if I don't scour it looking for evidence for you, but seriously, lol...
Check out this: http://www.reddit.com/r/TumblrInAction
Some examples of radfems, taken from the first page:
http://the-idea-of-her.tumblr.com/post/111613446980/i-just-saw-a-transgender-woman-refer-to-herself-as
http://i.imgur.com/6qMbdhK.jpg]
http://imgur.com/NnQECQk
It goes on, and on, and on....
http://theralphretort.com/looks-like-milo-just-got-screwed-out-of-a-shorty-award-0228015/
https://archive.today/C3Q9W
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:d6Sk1jqKcukJ:shortyawards.com/Nero+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
http://i.imgur.com/2U396fJ.png
Mike Cernovich
http://i.imgur.com/TM7Pgfb.png
https://twitter.com/PlayDangerously/status/571850338950488064
Anita gave another talk at NYU covered by gawker yet again
https://archive.today/YBRhM
http://i.imgur.com/3y0h89Y.png
http://i.imgur.com/Iha4fHZ.png
Once again, she's talking to white hipsters, no actual diversity there, and her "acceptable female protagonists" are all bland..inoffensive... she's at the point now where she's complaining about how women in video games walk or sit.
A vision of Anitas inoffensive future from sweden...
https://archive.today/C5y9o
http://i.imgur.com/UwdbvAI.png
A Conversation with Brandon Morse and Liana Kerzna
Sargon of Akkad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upjZlfQfRxc
Why Does @femfreq Refuse To Help Raped Sex Workers? #gamergate
The Justicar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDaa61mHkuc
Gawker quietly admits (to a judge & under oath) that #GamerGate is about ethics in journalism
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B-NLTvOCAAAVq4P.png
https://archive.today/M01W4
Just another look at the blockbot, Jenn is tagged as "humanist"
https://twitter.com/JennOfHardwire/status/571325365282418689
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B-3BVdUUcAIIaK1.jpg
Sushi Lulu of ABC Nightline fame wrote a piece on the blockbot creator, Randi Harper.
The Hidden Face of Hypocrisy: Randi Harper
http://s2b20blog.mukyou.com/hidden-face-hypocrisy-randi-harper/
Shoe0nHead of Graham Linehan fame also wrote up a piece.
http://shoe0nhead.blogspot.com/2015/02/middle-aged-moms-white-washing-internet.html
The Great Escapist! -- Indie-Fensible (#GamerGate)
ShortFatOtaku
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APFt0ugackE
More than a Damsel in a Dress: A Response
KiteTales
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJihi5rB_Ek
Who needs to strawman? You have people like Leigh who take offense at everything, but throw around misogyny like it has no meaning, mocking a man with cancer even. These people can dish it, but they can't take it.
https://twitter.com/TheRalphRetort/status/571475805156610049
https://archive.today/pbtfa
If anyones wondered why Total Biscuit renamed himself temporarily for a laugh
http://i.imgur.com/XHkwLte.png
Women like femitheist devine of #killallmen exist.
Feminists who claim "evidence is oppression" exist..
https://twitter.com/Nero/status/558397571845337089
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7E4SDPIAAAyi2j.jpg
False flagging to silence people has long been a common tactic with extreme feminists.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-Ib3DRrZrw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZT9DsBMEVM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPs9qn0NChs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTSQbLt9DS8
http://dish.andrewsullivan.com/2014/11/11/the-sjws-now-get-to-police-speech-on-twitter-ctd/
I could go on and on, but really, Anita Sarkeesian exists, and is held up in the media as unquestionable saints, and all she does is fear monger and demonize a huge group of people, setting back the image of gamers by a decade or more at this point. These are the normal "feminists" that are held up as the norm in the mainstream, to the point where as posted before the NPR's, the CBC's and even of course the BBC's of the world never bother to fact check them, what they say and what they represent is just assumed to be normal and right.
I don't really think you're doing GG many favours with posts like that tbh.
And i think you need to get a sense of humour.
You need to say something that's actually funny to make that demand.
And you need to actually make good points for people to take you seriously.
I read a quote like that from Hitler at the beginning of the Holocaust exhibit at the Imperial War Museum. You disgust me.
I saw Nefrati's post earlier - all boo-hoo about Anita's eight suggestions, apparently he was upset that there would be less titillation for him to view when playing games.
I'd rather actually play games than indulge either of these immature posters continually bumping this thread with anti-feminist rants under the guise of 'ethics in journalism'.
Why don't Nefrati and Skybore go and post on The Escapist now they have eliminated any social commentary from controversial commentary from that site? I think they would be happier there being drip fed what EA, Ubisoft and the other corporations want to fed their juvenile minds.
If Tyler or Brianna had said that you'd be spitting tacks.
And equally if it was reversed you'd be doing the same...
Don't be a hypocrite now...
I disgust you? nice to know that humour disgusts you..not that i am surprised your ilk are humourless.
They do say we need to be killed. Of course they wouldn't do it themselves because that would require effort
Well yeah, that was the whole point.
Maybe you should just get a sense of humour. I'd read a few reviews before purchasing, though, they can vary wildly.
I'm not offended by them saying that, doesn't bother me in any way.
Do you actually reread your own posts??
What is funny about suggesting the way forward is to 'eliminate' your enemy??
Please expand upon this point so that I might continue to point and laugh at what GG find amusing and what great arguments they present.
Yes, you do disgust me. Better than that I want non-GG to see what a bunch of oafish buffoons you are.
It's funny because it's what antigg say about us.
You should probably tell GamerGate they're over-reacting then.
Why? if other ggers are offended then that's on them.
So you don't read reviews, you don't care what people say about gamers...
...why are you on board with any of this again?
Because i don't want my hobby to be destroyed.
Neither do I. Fortunately that's not happening, so it's all good.