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Rick GrimesRick Grimes Posts: 274
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Year after year me and the other long term staff have to deal with new groups of staff every year, younger and ruder and more cliquey every year.

Anyone else experienced this.
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    HP.80 VictorHP.80 Victor Posts: 1,118
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    No, not really. But then we don't have a high turn over of staff.
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    Rogue277Rogue277 Posts: 341
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    Year after year me and the other long term staff have to deal with new groups of staff every year, younger and ruder and more cliquey every year.

    Anyone else experienced this.

    Maybe it's because the working conditions are bad.
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    abarthmanabarthman Posts: 8,501
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    People usually describe others as being cliquey when they aren't in the clique.
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    MargMckMargMck Posts: 24,115
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    I have had 11 different managers in four years, including no manager when during one of the regular "restructures" HQ forgot to give two of us a boss at all until we eventually mentioned that their latest memo didn't include us. At one time my token boss of the season was 250 miles away. Fortunately I work from home so have avoided seeing much of them.
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    MargMckMargMck Posts: 24,115
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    I have had 11 different managers in four years, including no manager when during one of the regular "restructures" HQ forgot to give two of us a boss at all until we eventually mentioned that their latest memo didn't include us. At one time my token boss of the season was 250 miles away. Fortunately I work from home so have avoided seeing much of them.
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    Rick GrimesRick Grimes Posts: 274
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    abarthman wrote: »
    People usually describe others as being cliquey when they aren't in the clique.

    Oh come on that is very black and white.
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    abarthmanabarthman Posts: 8,501
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    Oh come on that is very black and white.
    I call it as I see it.
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    Toby LaRhoneToby LaRhone Posts: 12,916
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    abarthman wrote: »
    I call it as I see it.
    What an original line.
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    Toby LaRhoneToby LaRhone Posts: 12,916
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    Year after year me and the other long term staff have to deal with new groups of staff every year, younger and ruder and more cliquey every year.

    Anyone else experienced this.
    What line of business?
    If you belong to a group of "long term" staff why do others leave and why are the new lot "younger and ruder"?
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    markjonsonmarkjonson Posts: 268
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    I'm a bus driver, I've given up getting to know any of the new drivers, the staff turnover is unreal. It's a combination of the job and the way the company treat their drivers.
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    TakaeTakae Posts: 13,555
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    MargMck wrote: »
    I have had 11 different managers in four years, including no manager when during one of the regular "restructures" HQ forgot to give two of us a boss at all until we eventually mentioned that their latest memo didn't include us. At one time my token boss of the season was 250 miles away. Fortunately I work from home so have avoided seeing much of them.

    o_0 I don't know whether to laugh or not at that. Did it make you feel you were stuck in a bad comedy film?
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    Poppy99_PoppyPoppy99_Poppy Posts: 2,255
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    MargMck wrote: »
    I have had 11 different managers in four years, including no manager when during one of the regular "restructures" HQ forgot to give two of us a boss at all until we eventually mentioned that their latest memo didn't include us. At one time my token boss of the season was 250 miles away. Fortunately I work from home so have avoided seeing much of them.

    I wish somebody would forget to give me a boss, I so would not have mentioned it. As long as I kept getting paid.
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    abarthmanabarthman Posts: 8,501
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    What an original line.
    Not really, but it is quite curious that you chose to respond to it.
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    Andy23Andy23 Posts: 15,926
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    Year after year me and the other long term staff have to deal with new groups of staff every year, younger and ruder and more cliquey every year.

    Anyone else experienced this.

    Sounds exactly the same as where I work.

    New managers is worse as you have to start again, proving yourself like it is you who is new.
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    MargMckMargMck Posts: 24,115
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    Takae wrote: »
    o_0 I don't know whether to laugh or not at that. Did it make you feel you were stuck in a bad comedy film?
    I wish somebody would forget to give me a boss, I so would not have mentioned it. As long as I kept getting paid.

    Me and the other member of staff they forgot to give a boss to left it a couple of months, carried on doing our jobs and still got paid. It was fine until we realised we were also missing out on the 1 in 10 company emailed memos that were of value to know about, so we pointed out the boo-boo.
    Until then no one noticed we weren't at regional meetings, occasional phone calls led to "Dunno, I've not been told anything" ... and on we went.
    So they gave us a boss miles away who was too busy to care what we were up to, and then that boss changed again after six months. But at least we were on the email loop once more as announcements were "cascaded down".
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    humehume Posts: 2,088
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    My place of work opened a year and half ago. When it opened the staff were roughly 90% British born. About 6 months in from opening there was a restructuring. The company had taken on too many supervisory employees and the business couldn't sustain them.
    The supervisors were offered a slightly lesser role and small cut in their pay. A mass exodus followed. The staff who replaced them were also British but because there was no fast track to promotion, they left as well. It got so bad that one week you'd see a new face and the next week they'd be gone. At some point the business started focussing solely on it's needs and made working conditions near enough unbearable. Another exodus followed in which the company turned to European workers to fill the vacancies.
    They literally flew employees in and gave them temporary accommodation. But when these new workers left because of these working practices, the business changed tact and cut the amount of work we were doing and gave us more breaks.

    The company I work for is actually one of the best in the industry. Three of the British staff who had left, have come back. Others seemingly want to come back, because you see them visiting now and again.

    The workforce is now roughly 70% European and the turnover of staff has stabilized.
    I made the observation about British and European workers because many feel the Europeans workers deprive the natives of job opportunities. When in fact many of the natives don't want those jobs in the first place.
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    paulsh1paulsh1 Posts: 2,245
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    We've had a recruitment freeze for the past five years!

    Apart from the odd agency temp or internal transfer from another department,there hasn't been a single new face.

    In fact due to natural wastages not being replaced, there seems to be less and less of us every week!
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    realwalesrealwales Posts: 3,110
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    An acquaintance of mine runs a small manufacturing company.

    It's not especially grotty work, the pay is reasonable and over a period of time you'll have the opportunity to progress.

    He tells me that he generally prefers to employ workers from Eastern Europe nowadays. He had a bit of a rant at me recently where he said that most young Brits he encounters (and by 'young' he means 35 and under, and due to the nature of the work will usually be male) have a poor attitude, think the whole world owes them a favour, have poor punctuality, poor productivity, and spend too much time standing around talking, usually about computer games, football, or what they got up to over the weekend. He also said that British staff coming in hungover or very tired was also an issue.

    In contrast, he says Eastern Europeans, including the young, are hard-working, punctual, polite, and don't take the mickey with stuff like time off/sickness etc. He even said he recently insisted one of his Eastern European staff went home after he could tell by looking at him that he was unwell. The lad was reluctant to go, despite him offering to pay him full whack until he was better.

    It's a totally different ethic. The reality is that a lot of young Brits have been mollycoddled and need to buck their ideas up.
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    Rick GrimesRick Grimes Posts: 274
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    realwales wrote: »
    An acquaintance of mine runs a small manufacturing company.

    It's not especially grotty work, the pay is reasonable and over a period of time you'll have the opportunity to progress.

    He tells me that he generally prefers to employ workers from Eastern Europe nowadays. He had a bit of a rant at me recently where he said that most young Brits he encounters (and by 'young' he means 35 and under, and due to the nature of the work will usually be male) have a poor attitude, think the whole world owes them a favour, have poor punctuality, poor productivity, and spend too much time standing around talking, usually about computer games, football, or what they got up to over the weekend. He also said that British staff coming in hungover or very tired was also an issue.

    In contrast, he says Eastern Europeans, including the young, are hard-working, punctual, polite, and don't take the mickey with stuff like time off/sickness etc. He even said he recently insisted one of his Eastern European staff went home after he could tell by looking at him that he was unwell. The lad was reluctant to go, despite him offering to pay him full whack until he was better.

    It's a totally different ethic. The reality is that a lot of young Brits have been mollycoddled and need to buck their ideas up.

    Are british youngsters lazy everyone?
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    CosinCosin Posts: 765
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    You cheat, lie, and manipulate your way to the top, because deep down, you know you cannot compete at a level playing field with everyone else
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    Sweet_PrincessSweet_Princess Posts: 11,038
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    I have worked in this hotel going on 5 years next week and I have seen alot of people come and go and the clicks forming and splitting thats just the world of work
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    itscoldoutsideitscoldoutside Posts: 3,190
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    Are british youngsters lazy everyone?

    Its a big problem, the company I used to work for had issues with young people and went through them like there was no tomorrow.

    They seem to have a problem with being told what to do.
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    PrinceOfDenmarkPrinceOfDenmark Posts: 2,761
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    abarthman wrote: »
    I call it as I see it.

    But when you call it you seem to call it wrong. Perhaps you'd be better off not calling it?
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    ste likes boobsste likes boobs Posts: 677
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    No cliques but we have a high turnover of staff. Since our new manager came in September she has hired about 8 people. Two were fired, one quit and another one is likely to quit soon.

    The ones that have stayed are pretty unreliable and usually ring in sick within their first week or so.

    Thing is though. She's admitted to me that she favours her new staff and hopes the one she hasn't hired will leave. This includes me, which I will be doing soon.
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    kendogukkendoguk Posts: 13,804
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    We're I work hasn't really had a high staff turn over with the main staff but it has with the lower contract staff but that's expected they are only really there for experience etc. we have however after 6 years got a new manger and it feels like starting again and we have no idea what the guy likes or what way he likes things done yet.

    So from pretty much working on auto pilot for the last few years its a bit of a new situation having to actually think is this going to be okay lol.
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