I think that the reactions on here confirm that you cant debate race now because someone will always be offended
On the contrary. It proves that you can debate race, but debate is a two-way street. Some people think it means saying what you want without granting right of reply, so when their opinions are actually challenged, they then moan that they are being 'censored' or whatever. The only people getting riled up were a few individuals who didn't like having their opinions challenged and spoke of those opinions as 'truths'. Ironic.
I suppose it would be asking too much for you to prove this claim? Pesky details, I know. And assuming it is true, that is indeed racist. It's pretty much the dictionary definition of the term.
As usual those on DS who have no experience of living with other races pointing out who is "a racist". The world is not some big mixing pot where we all live in harmony. That is idealistic, niaive rubbish. The reality is something else altogether.
As usual, someone making unfounded and frankly bizarre assumptions about people over the internet, based on their holding a certain opinion. Quite the genius.
It's just dawned on me that the whole reason these gangs are multiplying at a rate of knots and trying to rape everyone is purely to get loads of mixed race kids popping out in droves and try and do away with the White Brit! It's all about taking over Britain and turning it sharia!
Yeah, those Sikhs are all about Sharia law. They love it.
Funny how this thread is full of people whining about not having a voice as white people, not being allowed an opinion, that society's against them. It's the same on British forums and comments pages allover the net. And yet never does it occur to them that they are exercising their freedom and privilege. These people are so busy being angry and reinforcing their mass hysteria, sharing their ethnically-oriented scare stories that they don't realise they are actually in the majority. When the occasional person contradicts them, that person gets shot down, called a liberal/leftist/a white speaking on behalf of ethnics [race traitor?]/a PC drone. Hilarious. An anthropologist would have a field day on here.
Funny how this thread is full of people whining about not having a voice as white people, not being allowed an opinion, that society's against them. It's the same on British forums and comments pages allover the net. And yet never does it occur to them that they are exercising their freedom and privilege. These people are so busy being angry and reinforcing their mass hysteria, sharing their ethnically-oriented scare stories that they don't realise they are actually in the majority. When the occasional person contradicts them, that person gets shot down, called a liberal/leftist/a white speaking on behalf of ethnics [race traitor?]/a PC drone. Hilarious. An anthropologist would have a field day on here.
Not sure who your are refering to but in case it is me, nothing I have said is a scare story, it's something I witnessed and went through after stumbling on a youtube page last week where men of muslim culture were aiming vile abuse at women, threatening rape and laughing and joking about how many ethnic pregnancies their fellow muslims gang rapes would create in the UK! Like I have said before if anybody thinks I have invented this, I have you tube screen dumps to back this up! These people were depraved and downright dangerous and that is my concern at the moment as we do not know how many muslims of that violent, sick mentality walk the streets of the UK! I have also seen a number of news stories this last couple of weeks about women being attacked by Asian taxi drivers! Not to mention the girl that was dragged from the bus stop in Leeds and raped!
There are no scare stories, only cold, hard and frightening facts!
Not sure who your are refering to but in case it is me, nothing I have said is a scare story, it's something I witnessed and went through after stumbling on a youtube page last week where men of muslim culture were aiming vile abuse at women, threatening rape and laughing and joking about how many ethnic pregnancies their fellow muslims gang rapes would create in the UK! Like I have said before if anybody thinks I have invented this, I have you tube screen dumps to back this up! These people were depraved and downright dangerous and that is my concern at the moment as we do not know how many muslims of that violent, sick mentality walk the streets of the UK! I have also seen a number of news stories this last couple of weeks about women being attacked by Asian taxi drivers! Not to mention the girl that was dragged from the bus stop in Leeds and raped!
There are no scare stories, only cold, hard and frightening facts!
I'm referring to the general tone of the thread. I hope you've informed the police of those videos.
I'm referring to the general tone of the thread. I hope you've informed the police of those videos.
I thought about, I did look on the internet to see if you can report cyber hate crime type stuff anywhere but it tells you to report it to youtube who have really shocked me by not giving a damn! I couldn't believe the level of hatred certain factions of muslims have for western women and especially British! You find it hard to believe that these men have mothers the way they talk about the violent things they want to do to women! It's the first time I have ever been threatened with rape! Seems surreal! You tube don't seem to regulate what goes on their site at all! There's probably child porn rings socialising on there if that was anything to go by!
I suppose it would be asking too much for you to prove this claim? Pesky details, I know. And assuming it is true, that is indeed racist. It's pretty much the dictionary definition of the term.
As usual, someone making unfounded and frankly bizarre assumptions about people over the internet, based on their holding a certain opinion. Quite the genius.
Whereas actually calling someone on the internet racist is not making an assumption at all.
Whereas actually calling someone on the internet racist is not making an assumption at all.
Actually I said the claim that some behaviour is racially determined is racist, which it quite literally is. You don't have to be Einstein to figure that one out. And I'm still waiting on that proof. Funny how you make the claim as if it's common knowledge, then fail to back it up. Funny, also, how people who are so quick to make judgments about entire races get all huffy and wounded at the thought that someone might make assumptions about them.
I thought about, I did look on the internet to see if you can report cyber hate crime type stuff anywhere but it tells you to report it to youtube who have really shocked me by not giving a damn! I couldn't believe the level of hatred certain factions of muslims have for western women and especially British! You find it hard to believe that these men have mothers the way they talk about the violent things they want to do to women! It's the first time I have ever been threatened with rape! Seems surreal! You tube don't seem to regulate what goes on their site at all! There's probably child porn rings socialising on there if that was anything to go by!
Well, I suggest you use your own judgment and contact them anyway. If they've might have done something illegal it should be reported. Some of them may even be connected with an ongoing investigation.
Actually I said the claim that some behaviour is racially determined is racist, which it quite literally is. You don't have to be Einstein to figure that one out. And I'm still waiting on that proof. Funny how you make the claim as if it's common knowledge, then fail to back it up. Funny, also, how people who are so quick to make judgments about entire races get all huffy and wounded at the thought that someone might make assumptions about them.
You're in the wrong thread. You're applying logic.
Yeah, those Sikhs are all about Sharia law. They love it.
I thought the gangs were mainly Pakistani muslim
Sikhs don't do sharia.
On another note, I have 4 guys under me, 1 white british, 1 polish guy and 2 Asian (hindu and 1 ? (not muslim) )
Of all of them, the two Asian guys are the most racist, they hate muslims with a passion.
Every race has it's share of racists.
The claims that certain groups commit certain crimes was interesting too, whereas I agree generalising an entire people is wrong, I do think there is some policing value in the claims as long as the figures actually back it up.
Jules :-
you really should alert the police to the video.
I thought the gangs were mainly Pakistani muslim
Sikhs don't do sharia.
On another note, I have 4 guys under me, 1 white british, 1 polish guy and 2 Asian (hindu and 1 ? (not muslim) )
Of all of them, the two Asian guys are the most racist, they hate muslims with a passion.
Every race has it's share of racists.
The claims that certain groups commit certain crimes was interesting too, whereas I agree generalising an entire people is wrong, I do think there is some policing value in the claims as long as the figures actually back it up.
Jules :-
you really should alert the police to the video.
I think there was a modicum of sarcasm in that post.
I thought the gangs were mainly Pakistani muslim
Sikhs don't do sharia.
On another note, I have 4 guys under me, 1 white british, 1 polish guy and 2 Asian (hindu and 1 ? (not muslim) )
Of all of them, the two Asian guys are the most racist, they hate muslims with a passion.
Every race has it's share of racists.
The claims that certain groups commit certain crimes was interesting too, whereas I agree generalising an entire people is wrong, I do think there is some policing value in the claims as long as the figures actually back it up.
Jules :-
you really should alert the police to the video.
i do not know how you can be racist towards muslims in the first place because muslims are not just one race there many races that become muslims "assimilated"
i do not know how you can be racist towards muslims in the first place because muslims are not just one race there many races that become muslims "assimilated"
I know exactly where you're coming from with that and you're right, yet it does seem to get regarded as racism
Um,,, national front , bnp , edl, Britain first . The Birmingham self styled branch of the KKK in the 50's ?
Have you been to birmingham lately, there aint no KKK there now.
I went to look at a car there, it was near a mosque, as I got out my car to look for the place, several people started to gather to see what I was doing there.
By the time I'd looked at the car and gone back to mine, there was a fair sized group of people looking across and obviously not happy at having a white man in their area.
It isn't the only place like that either.
National front are a much smaller group these days, EDL seems to be dying down too.
BNP have gone quiet too.
All that said, you are still right in a sense, whites racism isn't a myth, but then nor is racism from non whites, it comes from all groups towards all groups.
I thought about, I did look on the internet to see if you can report cyber hate crime type stuff anywhere but it tells you to report it to youtube who have really shocked me by not giving a damn! I couldn't believe the level of hatred certain factions of muslims have for western women and especially British! You find it hard to believe that these men have mothers the way they talk about the violent things they want to do to women! It's the first time I have ever been threatened with rape! Seems surreal! You tube don't seem to regulate what goes on their site at all! There's probably child porn rings socialising on there if that was anything to go by!
The video on you tube is United Kingdom's Daughter, the problem with reporting it is it's not the that's necessarily hateful, it's the posts that guys are writing underneath, the guy who created and uploaded the video has been deleting some of the inflammatory stuff hence why I was taking screen shots.
The initial page was the one uploaded by Harvinder Singh but I have now sadly seen that not only has you tube still not taken it down but muslims are sharing the video on mulitple pages which will no doubt also have hate discussions going on about the UK and it's women!
I turned my notifications off and stopped going on there after I saw the sicko proudly revelling in the rape pregnancies that would result in Britain having to be redefined, that and being told that I must enjoy rape for being a British ****!
It's just dawned on me that the whole reason these gangs are multiplying at a rate of knots and trying to rape everyone is purely to get loads of mixed race kids popping out in droves and try and do away with the White Brit! It's all about taking over Britain and turning it sharia!
So these gangs are racist against white brits, and are raping white brits in order to create mixed race kids?
Do you seriously believe that somebody who is racist really wants mixed race kids?
But on the other hand you could be joking, in which case I'd say that's a pretty good post.:D
As for the fact that Chinese, Asian and Roma children are outperforming the white English children isn't a race thing. It's that in these cultures, education is seen as a positive thing whereas among white english, it's all about larking about and not being a 'boffin' (at least it was when I was at school).
Or, as was clearly highlighted towards the end of this programme, because outrageous resources have been targetted at these poor lambs who rock up at/are dumped on our schools unable to speak a word of English.
But don't worry! This trend is being reversed and resources are now being used towards the 'indiginous' kids.
Tell that to those who have been consigned to the scrapheap for the last 10, 15 years.
Or, as was clearly highlighted towards the end of this programme, because outrageous resources have been targetted at these poor lambs who rock up at/are dumped on our schools unable to speak a word of English.
But don't worry! This trend is being reversed and resources are now being used towards the 'indiginous' kids.
Tell that to those who have been consigned to the scrapheap for the last 10, 15 years.
Why do we all get so angry at immigrants, who are legally allowed to be here, using our precious resources to the detriment of the indigenous population (a good many of both sets being poor) when there seems to be no rally against the lack of interest in getting very rich individuals and big business to pay their way by paying the legitimate amount of tax (I appreciate using the loopholes is also legal).
Very little indignation and yet the rich has so much more choice.
Trevor Philips had balls of steel and tony Blair has aged terribly as well as making a fool of himself.
I think farage should have said the reason we shouldn't have the laws about skin colour is because we have moved on in the vast majority of cases, and the people that won't move on won't pay attention to a law like we have
Being anti racist is not about making a massive statement, it's about letting everyone get on with their own thing when they are not harming anyone and dealing with it when they are harming someone. Its also accepting an individual can be an idiot in isolation to the rest of their race. People from blair's Britain need to learn this and welcome an intelligent debate.
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Not sure who your are refering to but in case it is me, nothing I have said is a scare story, it's something I witnessed and went through after stumbling on a youtube page last week where men of muslim culture were aiming vile abuse at women, threatening rape and laughing and joking about how many ethnic pregnancies their fellow muslims gang rapes would create in the UK! Like I have said before if anybody thinks I have invented this, I have you tube screen dumps to back this up! These people were depraved and downright dangerous and that is my concern at the moment as we do not know how many muslims of that violent, sick mentality walk the streets of the UK! I have also seen a number of news stories this last couple of weeks about women being attacked by Asian taxi drivers! Not to mention the girl that was dragged from the bus stop in Leeds and raped!
There are no scare stories, only cold, hard and frightening facts!
I thought about, I did look on the internet to see if you can report cyber hate crime type stuff anywhere but it tells you to report it to youtube who have really shocked me by not giving a damn! I couldn't believe the level of hatred certain factions of muslims have for western women and especially British! You find it hard to believe that these men have mothers the way they talk about the violent things they want to do to women! It's the first time I have ever been threatened with rape! Seems surreal! You tube don't seem to regulate what goes on their site at all! There's probably child porn rings socialising on there if that was anything to go by!
Whereas actually calling someone on the internet racist is not making an assumption at all.
You're in the wrong thread. You're applying logic.
I thought the gangs were mainly Pakistani muslim
Sikhs don't do sharia.
On another note, I have 4 guys under me, 1 white british, 1 polish guy and 2 Asian (hindu and 1 ? (not muslim) )
Of all of them, the two Asian guys are the most racist, they hate muslims with a passion.
Every race has it's share of racists.
The claims that certain groups commit certain crimes was interesting too, whereas I agree generalising an entire people is wrong, I do think there is some policing value in the claims as long as the figures actually back it up.
Jules :-
you really should alert the police to the video.
I think there was a modicum of sarcasm in that post.
I do agree about Jules informing the police.
i do not know how you can be racist towards muslims in the first place because muslims are not just one race there many races that become muslims "assimilated"
I know exactly where you're coming from with that and you're right, yet it does seem to get regarded as racism
I figured there was some sarcasm in there.
(after I'd posted
Have you been to birmingham lately, there aint no KKK there now.
I went to look at a car there, it was near a mosque, as I got out my car to look for the place, several people started to gather to see what I was doing there.
By the time I'd looked at the car and gone back to mine, there was a fair sized group of people looking across and obviously not happy at having a white man in their area.
It isn't the only place like that either.
National front are a much smaller group these days, EDL seems to be dying down too.
BNP have gone quiet too.
All that said, you are still right in a sense, whites racism isn't a myth, but then nor is racism from non whites, it comes from all groups towards all groups.
Could you provide a link please?
The video on you tube is United Kingdom's Daughter, the problem with reporting it is it's not the that's necessarily hateful, it's the posts that guys are writing underneath, the guy who created and uploaded the video has been deleting some of the inflammatory stuff hence why I was taking screen shots.
The initial page was the one uploaded by Harvinder Singh but I have now sadly seen that not only has you tube still not taken it down but muslims are sharing the video on mulitple pages which will no doubt also have hate discussions going on about the UK and it's women!
I turned my notifications off and stopped going on there after I saw the sicko proudly revelling in the rape pregnancies that would result in Britain having to be redefined, that and being told that I must enjoy rape for being a British ****!
So these gangs are racist against white brits, and are raping white brits in order to create mixed race kids?
Do you seriously believe that somebody who is racist really wants mixed race kids?
But on the other hand you could be joking, in which case I'd say that's a pretty good post.:D
I don't know which to believe.
Or, as was clearly highlighted towards the end of this programme, because outrageous resources have been targetted at these poor lambs who rock up at/are dumped on our schools unable to speak a word of English.
But don't worry! This trend is being reversed and resources are now being used towards the 'indiginous' kids.
Tell that to those who have been consigned to the scrapheap for the last 10, 15 years.
starts about 6 mins in. See link http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b05n7wvc/this-week-19032015,
Of course Diane Abbott was in that river in Egypt !
Why do we all get so angry at immigrants, who are legally allowed to be here, using our precious resources to the detriment of the indigenous population (a good many of both sets being poor) when there seems to be no rally against the lack of interest in getting very rich individuals and big business to pay their way by paying the legitimate amount of tax (I appreciate using the loopholes is also legal).
Very little indignation and yet the rich has so much more choice.
Have we all fallen for DM rhetoric?
Trevor Philips had balls of steel and tony Blair has aged terribly as well as making a fool of himself.
I think farage should have said the reason we shouldn't have the laws about skin colour is because we have moved on in the vast majority of cases, and the people that won't move on won't pay attention to a law like we have
Being anti racist is not about making a massive statement, it's about letting everyone get on with their own thing when they are not harming anyone and dealing with it when they are harming someone. Its also accepting an individual can be an idiot in isolation to the rest of their race. People from blair's Britain need to learn this and welcome an intelligent debate.