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Convince me that I should vote in a very safe (Labour) seat

jo2015jo2015 Posts: 6,021
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Why should I make the effort to vote when Labour ALWAYS win in my constituency?

And don't give me this 'people died to give you the vote'. People fought in world wars because they were conscripted and didn't want to the Germans to invade Britain or they joined up out of patriotism.

And don't give me the Suffragettes - they were a bunch of posh birds who didn't want working class men voting.
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    MC_SatanMC_Satan Posts: 26,512
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    Vote if you want to. Doesn't bother me if people don't.
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    Jayceef1Jayceef1 Posts: 3,515
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    jo2015 wrote: »
    Why should I make the effort to vote when Labour ALWAYS win in my constituency?

    And don't give me this 'people died to give you the vote'. People fought in world wars because they were conscripted and didn't want to the Germans to invade Britain or they joined up out of patriotism.

    And don't give me the Suffragettes - they were a bunch of posh birds who didn't want working class men voting.

    Because if everyone who didn't support Labour thought like that it will always be a safe seat. If they all voted then Labour may well lose or at least make it a close call.
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    AnnsyreAnnsyre Posts: 109,504
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    jo2015 wrote: »
    Why should I make the effort to vote when Labour ALWAYS win in my constituency?

    And don't give me this 'people died to give you the vote'. People fought in world wars because they were conscripted and didn't want to the Germans to invade Britain or they joined up out of patriotism.

    And don't give me the Suffragettes - they were a bunch of posh birds who didn't want working class men voting.

    Perhaps you should read a history book instead of going out to vote.

    At the start of World War One only one in twenty was eligible to vote.
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    Amaretto2Amaretto2 Posts: 2,949
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    Maybe vote for a party that supports electoral reform so the dreadful FPTP voting system is more likely to be scrapped like it has everywhere else in Europe and most of the world? No need to worry about "safe seats" and "wasted votes" then.

    The more votes these parties get, the greater the pressure will be.
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    smudges dadsmudges dad Posts: 36,989
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    Even large majorities can be overturned.
    You may help save the deposit of a minor candidate or help give them motivation to carry on in local politics
    You may feel better about yourself
    Have pride in participating in the democratic process
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    MARTYM8MARTYM8 Posts: 44,710
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    Because national vote counts are published too - and you send a message that way.

    It won't change your MP - but it may affect the wider political debate.

    And things can change - think of those dozens of Scottish Labour MPs who thought they had jobs for life in safe seats. Not any more!
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    AdsAds Posts: 37,135
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    I live in a safe Labour seat but will be voting.
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    Michael_EveMichael_Eve Posts: 14,481
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    Annsyre wrote: »
    Perhaps you should read a history book instead of going out to vote.

    At the start of World War One only one in twenty was eligible to vote.

    Yep. And obviously only one gender.

    I always vote in GEs, but people can do what they want. The only thing I find a bit annoying is the "Oh, whoever you vote for, the Government always gets in." Just seems a bit lazy. Also, am aware that it many parts of the World, there is no option.

    But as I said, do what you want!
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    carnoch04carnoch04 Posts: 10,277
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    Is going into a polling station and putting a cross in a box every five years really an "effort"?
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    Ash_M1Ash_M1 Posts: 18,703
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    jo2015 wrote: »
    Why should I make the effort to vote when Labour ALWAYS win in my constituency?

    And don't give me this 'people died to give you the vote'. People fought in world wars because they were conscripted and didn't want to the Germans to invade Britain or they joined up out of patriotism.

    And don't give me the Suffragettes - they were a bunch of posh birds who didn't want working class men voting.

    I would say vote Labour...because if everyone said I live in a safe seat blah blah blah.
    I totally empathise with your take though.
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    sarahj1986sarahj1986 Posts: 11,305
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    In previous elections I was voting in Warwick and Leamington, a marginal seat where I felt my vote mattered. This time now I'm down in Stratford Upon Avon a very safe Tory seat I am wondering if my vote does matter.

    Having said that I still feel it's my duty to vote regardless. There are still people dying in this world just to vote themselves so it's something I always will do
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    ZeraseZerase Posts: 475
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    It's tempting not to vote in FPTP elections- but you can at least officialy register your opinion.

    My constituency has always been a Lib Dem fiefdom, but I still make myself vote.
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    AnnsyreAnnsyre Posts: 109,504
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    Yep. And obviously only one gender.

    I always vote in GEs, but people can do what they want. The only thing I find a bit annoying is the "Oh, whoever you vote for, the Government always gets in." Just seems a bit lazy. Also, am aware that it many parts of the World, there is no option.

    But as I said, do what you want!

    Obviously not all one gender.

    The 1869 Municipal Franchise Act gave the vote to some women rate-payers in local elections and also enabled women to serve as Poor Law Guardians. The 1888 County Council Act also gave women the vote at county and borough council elections. However, they could not serve as members. This right was not granted until 1907.
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    80sfan80sfan Posts: 18,522
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    jo2015 wrote: »
    Why should I make the effort to vote when Labour ALWAYS win in my constituency?

    Not voting is really a vote for Cameron. Please do not let back in this desperate, clueless man who is not fit to be PM. Vote Labour!
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    gummy mummygummy mummy Posts: 26,600
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    jo2015 wrote: »
    Why should I make the effort to vote when Labour ALWAYS win in my constituency?

    And don't give me this 'people died to give you the vote'. People fought in world wars because they were conscripted and didn't want to the Germans to invade Britain or they joined up out of patriotism.

    And don't give me the Suffragettes - they were a bunch of posh birds who didn't want working class men voting.

    I would never try to convince you or anyone else to vote, or who to vote for, that is your decision to make not mine.
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    Michael_EveMichael_Eve Posts: 14,481
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    Annsyre wrote: »
    Obviously not all one gender.

    The 1869 Municipal Franchise Act gave the vote to some women rate-payers in local elections and also enabled women to serve as Poor Law Guardians. The 1888 County Council Act also gave women the vote at county and borough council elections. However, they could not serve as members. This right was not granted until 1907.

    Obviously I didn't know that! :blush:
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    Welsh-ladWelsh-lad Posts: 51,968
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    Do you support a different party to Labour?
    If so support them. If they didn't get any votes they'd lose their deposit and that might hamper their effort in winnable seats.
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    clinchclinch Posts: 11,574
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    Because the smaller the percentage vote achieved by the big parties, the greater the pressure to change the system.
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    TelevisionUserTelevisionUser Posts: 41,433
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    Jayceef1 wrote: »
    Because if everyone who didn't support Labour thought like that it will always be a safe seat. If they all voted then Labour may well lose or at least make it a close call.

    ^^^ This +1. Even spoiling a ballot paper and calling for proportional representation or writing 'none of the above' would be better than not voting at all.
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    Paul_CullotyPaul_Culloty Posts: 564
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    If you support one of the minor parties, voting could save their candidate's deposit.
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    SULLASULLA Posts: 149,789
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    jo2015 wrote: »
    Why should I make the effort to vote when Labour ALWAYS win in my constituency?

    And don't give me this 'people died to give you the vote'. People fought in world wars because they were conscripted and didn't want to the Germans to invade Britain or they joined up out of patriotism.

    And don't give me the Suffragettes - they were a bunch of posh birds who didn't want working class men voting.

    If everyone voted and voted sensibly, it wouldn't be a safe Labour seat.
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    Judge MentalJudge Mental Posts: 18,593
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    SULLA wrote: »
    If everyone voted and voted sensibly, it wouldn't be a safe Labour seat.

    That's a very arrogant statement.
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    RobMilesRobMiles Posts: 1,224
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    Vote UKIP.
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    mossy2103mossy2103 Posts: 84,314
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    jo2015 wrote: »
    Why should I make the effort to vote when Labour ALWAYS win in my constituency?

    And don't give me this 'people died to give you the vote'. People fought in world wars because they were conscripted and didn't want to the Germans to invade Britain or they joined up out of patriotism.

    And don't give me the Suffragettes - they were a bunch of posh birds who didn't want working class men voting.

    Well, just consider what might happen should many of the potential voters in your seat took the same attitude?
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    MaxatoriaMaxatoria Posts: 17,980
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    you could always try and become the local unofficial labour candidate and try and poll for votes as a lot of people just see labour candidate and will vote for them so make sure you're up above the official one in the list and you might just get a life of jollies on the state as an MP
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