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Sudden Surge in bets on Tristram Hunt being next Labour leader at 7-1

HildaonplutoHildaonpluto Posts: 37,697
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Take a look at @SentinelStaffs's Tweet: https://twitter.com/SentinelStaffs/status/597807236732321792?s=09

An interesting and intriguing development.

I have found him impressive so far but early days.
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    Living4LoveLiving4Love Posts: 1,989
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    Must indicate he is getting ready to reveal he is standing.

    I like him a lot. My fave out of all those mentioned so far bar Dan Jarvis who would have been perfect! But yep I think Tristram has what it takes and is what Labour need. I think voters of all ages and all backgrounds can connect with him.
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    EnnerjeeEnnerjee Posts: 5,131
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    Oh yes, another privately educated Champagne Socialist.

    These types will just push the traditional working class vote towards UKIP and the Tories.
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    mikesuffsmikesuffs Posts: 201
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    Still 9/1 with Hills & Skybet. The thought of the Labour Party being led by someone called Tristram is positively delicious. I'm sure the union barons will love it!
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    Living4LoveLiving4Love Posts: 1,989
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    Ennerjee wrote: »
    Oh yes, another privately educated Champagne Socialist.

    These types will just push the traditional working class vote towards UKIP and the Tories.

    Yeah because privately educated Eton boy Boris is such a great alternative! lets face it, they are grooming him to take over Cameron in 2018.

    Its going to be the old boy vs the young boy.
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    AneechikAneechik Posts: 20,208
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    I'm not sure a rich, privately-educated son of a Baron is the man to win back the disenchanted working class voters in the North that Labour has lost to UKIP. They might as well have kept Milliband.
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    JCRJCR Posts: 24,122
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    Well therein lies the problem, there's 2 Labour parties, the liberal London one, and the traditional northern one, the big problem the former has is it needs the latter to vote for them.
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    Living4LoveLiving4Love Posts: 1,989
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    JCR wrote: »
    Well therein lies the problem, there's 2 Labour parties, the liberal London one, and the traditional northern one, the big problem the former has is it needs the latter to vote for them.

    The ideal situation is to repeat the Tony Blair/John Prescott dynamic.

    Tom Watson as Tristram's deputy would do that.
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    Sky_GuySky_Guy Posts: 6,859
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    He looks like a PM, and would appeal to the people that Chuka would not.

    https://www.sheffield.ac.uk/polopoly_fs/1.364874!/image/Tristram.jpg

    But I suspect they will choose Chuka.
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    An ThropologistAn Thropologist Posts: 39,869
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    He can't help his birth any more than Tony Benn could help his. Perhaps coming from the right side of the tracks so to speak and having chosen to go against the tide gives him more not less credibility.

    I have to say he looks and sounds the part (leader). I hate that that matters but whether we like it or not in our celebrity culture in the media age. looks count for a great deal.

    Otherwise I don't know enough about what he is made of to judge.
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    kaloukkalouk Posts: 923
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    He can't help his birth any more than Tony Benn could help his. Perhaps coming from the right side of the tracks so to speak and having chosen to go against the tide gives him more not less credibility.

    I have to say he looks and sounds the part (leader). I hate that that matters but whether we like it or not in our celebrity culture in the media age. looks count for a great deal.

    Otherwise I don't know enough about what he is made of to judge.

    You took the words out of my mouth regarding Tony Benn. I also agree with the rest of your post.
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    AnnsyreAnnsyre Posts: 109,504
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    Aneechik wrote: »
    I'm not sure a rich, privately-educated son of a Baron is the man to win back the disenchanted working class voters in the North that Labour has lost to UKIP. They might as well have kept Milliband.

    There's a lot of truth in what you say.
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    HildaonplutoHildaonpluto Posts: 37,697
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    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/may/11/tristram-hunt-labour-must-regain-trust-working-class

    It looks to me like he's one of the frontbench team who's starting to get it and isn't someone in an ivory tower.

    Are people forgetting what an election winner privately educated Tony Blair was?
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    AnnsyreAnnsyre Posts: 109,504
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    Sky_Guy wrote: »
    He looks like a PM, and would appeal to the people that Chuka would not.

    https://www.sheffield.ac.uk/polopoly_fs/1.364874!/image/Tristram.jpg

    But I suspect they will choose Chuka.

    He looks well bred and well fed.

    He would probably use a knife and fork to eat a bacon sandwich.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 8,916
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    Knowing how it panned out with the Milibands last time around, I reckon it will be his brother Michael who ends up getting the party leadership.
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    HildaonplutoHildaonpluto Posts: 37,697
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    Must indicate he is getting ready to reveal he is standing.

    I like him a lot. My fave out of all those mentioned so far bar Dan Jarvis who would have been perfect! But yep I think Tristram has what it takes and is what Labour need. I think voters of all ages and all backgrounds can connect with him.

    Dan Jarvis too was my first choice. I like Andy Burnham but I think realistically it needs to be someone from the 2010 intake who wasn't part of the Blair Brown era if Labours going to optimise it's chance of winning. He presents as Prime Ministerial which was one of the key weaknesses people flagged up about Ed Miliband.
    Not sure who I'd select as his deputy but I think Gloria De Piero is worth a mention.
    Ennerjee wrote: »
    Oh yes, another privately educated Champagne Socialist.

    These types will just push the traditional working class vote towards UKIP and the Tories.

    Can't see why the traditional working class vote would be OK with Cameron and Boris but not Tristram.
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    Ellie_ArbuckleEllie_Arbuckle Posts: 548
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    If Boris Johnson takes over David Cameron and leads the Tories into the next election and Tristram is Labour leader I can't see Labour losing.

    Forget all this 'Labour needs to connect with voters in the North' most of the north is red and will always stay red. The north east will never vote for anything but Labour.

    Its Middle England Labour need to win over and the Tristram Hunt's and Liz Kandell's are the only one's who can do that.
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    plateletplatelet Posts: 26,419
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    Aneechik wrote: »
    I'm not sure a rich, privately-educated son of a Baron.

    You mean the labour councillor that was made a Baron for services to the Labour party? Bloody aristocrat >:(:D
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    An ThropologistAn Thropologist Posts: 39,869
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    Knowing how it panned out with the Milibands last time around, I reckon it will be his brother Michael who ends up getting the party leadership.

    Don't fret there will be a PR guru somewhere expert in the art of eating a bacon buttie. It seems to have become a primary litmus test of suitability to govern, that and how to hold a banana without looking like one. :)

    ETA Apologies Vernon. I seem to have quoted you by accident. I was trying to respond to Annsyre. I am not sure how to undo the error.
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    Living4LoveLiving4Love Posts: 1,989
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    Dan Jarvis too was my first choice. I like Andy Burnham but I think realistically it needs to be someone from the 2010 intake who wasn't part of the Blair Brown era if Labours going to optimise it's chance of winning. He presents as Prime Ministerial which was one of the key weaknesses people flagged up about Ed Miliband.
    Not sure who I'd select as his deputy but I think Gloria De Piero is worth a mention.



    Can't see why the traditional working class vote would be OK with Cameron and Boris but not Tristram.

    I'm not keen on Burnham. I would prefer Cooper over him but like you I hope its one of the 2010s. I think Tristram is my fave out of those in the running.

    If Boris Johnson takes over David Cameron and leads the Tories into the next election and Tristram is Labour leader I can't see Labour losing.

    Forget all this 'Labour needs to connect with voters in the North' most of the north is red and will always stay red. The north east will never vote for anything but Labour.

    Its Middle England Labour need to win over and the Tristram Hunt's and Liz Kandell's are the only one's who can do that
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    Ditto to the bit in bold but to be fair its only Tory supporters on here who keep going on about Labour's lost support in the north. I don't think they understand the Labour vote.
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    MattNMattN Posts: 2,541
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    Don't see him or Chuka being able to beat Boris.

    Liz kendall is something different and might though.

    People in middle England faced with the choice of Tory or faux Tory Labour ie Blarism are more likely to plump for the real thing ( Unless the Tories screw up badly over the next 5 years)
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    MattNMattN Posts: 2,541
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    Ditto to the bit in bold but to be fair its only Tory supporters on here who keep going on about Labour's lost support in the north. I don't think they understand the Labour vote.

    Plenty of Labour commentators are mentioning it.

    Labour should know from Scotland they can't take their northern vote for granted
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    Living4LoveLiving4Love Posts: 1,989
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    MattN wrote: »
    Don't see him or Chuka being able to beat Boris.

    Liz kendall is something different and might though.

    People in middle England faced with the choice of Tory or faux Tory Labour ie Blarism are more likely to plump for the real thing ( Unless the Tories screw up badly over the next 5 years)

    Boris is a far right Tory who has dodgy views on several subjects. Ed Miliband ran him into the ground on Marr. If Ed Miliband can do that how will Boris handle himself at PMQs?

    Boris is unelectable in the William Hague vain but I don't expect you to agree.
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    InspirationInspiration Posts: 62,731
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    I can't see him doing well. If you didn't tell people he was Labour people would naturally conclude he's a Tory.
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    MattNMattN Posts: 2,541
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    Boris is a far right Tory who has dodgy views on several subjects. Ed Miliband ran him into the ground on Marr. If Ed Miliband can do that how will Boris handle himself at PMQs?

    Boris is unelectable in the William Hague vain but I don't expect you to agree.

    You can't make judgments of one interview.

    Boris is the most popular politician in the country and won two elections in Labour London.
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