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UKIP banned from Gay Pride march by LGBT
Bulletguy1
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LGBT activists and organisers of Londons Gay Pride march have banned UKIP from taking part........on 'safety grounds'.
This is despite UKIP's strong lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) members' wing – and the fact that David Coburn, their only Scottish MEP, is homosexual.
Parade bosses said the decision was made to reject Ukip's application "in order to protect participants and ensure the event passes off safely and in the right spirit".
Gay Pride organisers have welcomed Tory party members to join them, as well as the Catholic church.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ukip-banned-gay-pride-march-5833285
This is despite UKIP's strong lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) members' wing – and the fact that David Coburn, their only Scottish MEP, is homosexual.
Parade bosses said the decision was made to reject Ukip's application "in order to protect participants and ensure the event passes off safely and in the right spirit".
Gay Pride organisers have welcomed Tory party members to join them, as well as the Catholic church.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ukip-banned-gay-pride-march-5833285
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"We appreciate many in our community have strongly held views about Ukip, their policies and comments, but it is undeniable that there are LGBT members of Ukip, including their MEP for Scotland, and it is important to remember that Pride in London aims to be an inclusive event."
All inclusive yet they exclude a party whilst having other political parties who I am sure their members also have strong views about and the Catholic Church, it does seem a rather selective inclusive event.
To my mind UKIP is hardly akin to the BNP , NF or EDL.
Fair enough.
Their parade, their rules.
Seems very counterproductive to me.
I detest UKIP but I have to agree with you here. I thought Pride marches were all about getting the message out that being LGBT is nothing to be ashamed of but by banning anyone it makes it seem like a community that doesn't want to teach and change things as much as they claim.
Hypocritical.
Hope it is given further thought and is reversed.
I doubt it. Not given the well publicised crap UKIP members have come out with in the past about gay people etc. I don't think this is the best thing for them to do, but I can u derstand them being a bit reticent about UKIP being particularly LGBT friendly, gay members or not.
I don't see why. There is a long thread on Politics on this and, has been made clear, the decision has been made because of the risk of protests from other marchers (and outside groups who dislike UKIP).
Many LGBT people, including me, actually disagree with the decision, despite understanding the difficult choice that was made and why safety of the marchers (including UKIP people) and the volunteer stewards was a compelling argument.
If anyone thinks that London Pride Committee is representative of the views of all LGBT people then I guess they might think less of the entire community - however they would be a bit dim to do so... much as it would be a bit dim to think that all UKIP members were homophobic because some of them have made homophobic comments.
Not if the reason is genuinely about public safety.
I wouldn't go that far. It's one march, and I can imagine there are enough LGBT who will disagree with banning anyone or anything for it not to become commoplace.
Nah, not a chance... soz Bullet.
The excuse of 'public safety' isn't really a very good one at all. We may as well apply that to all marches! You only have to look at the student protests and more recent protest march against the Tories being re-elected to see that.
I suppose much depends on how you wish to get your message across to the wider non LGBT public at large....by making it an "inclusive event" (their words) which turns out to be selectively inclusive.
As i said, by banning a single political party is certainly counterproductive.
It's just one Pride march and one Pride committee, and I really don't think this one incident will do the gay community as a whole much harm.
I know you'd really love that to happen, and I hate to be the one to bust your bubble, but no they won't.
I think UKIP are thinking they're special and want special treatment because of their specialness.
I hardly think that would help. It seems they are doing their best to make it inclusive under very difficult circumstances.
I quite like the irony of the kippers not being allowed in. Other than that, must be a slow news day.
Only by idiots who think a group of parade organisers represent the millions of LGBT community.
Public safety isn't their remit though. Had they said the Police had advised them to exclude members of UKIP due to issues of public safety, that might have been different....if not 'interesting'!
But to my knowledge they haven't.
"political beliefs"? So a beliefs - something that is just thought. - like religion.
That's something very different to BEING gay. That's not a belief or something just thought.
It really offends me when belief systems are made out to in some way be the same and as valid as something a person actually is: gay, a given race or disabled for example.
If someone has problems by what they think, that is their problem. Change it or not but don't think you come into the same category as someone who is a certain thing as they get no say or choice in the matter.
Why don't the UKIP lot just go and join another parade?
I know if I wasn't allowed to join a parade I wouldn't go all drama queen about it, I'd just move on and look for another parade.
Or is this, as I suspect, more a case of mischief making and pot stirring.....yet again.
Just because you want to join a parade doesn't give you "a right" to force the organisers to let you join. If the organisers do not wish to let them join them, then you cannot go running off bleating about not being included!!
A bunch of drama queens, that UKIP lot, the lot of 'em!
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