What we do know about James O'Brien is this he loves multiculturalism though he lives in leafy Chiswick not in a nice multicultural area of the capital.
He mentions UKIP frequently on his show and mis pronounces Nigel Farrage's name calling him "Farridge" .
He thinks people who do not like mass immigration racist.
And is not al all open to the argument that mass immigration does not force wages down at the bottom,in other words they are not competing for his job.
Other then that he is ok.:)
Still does not make him left wing or socialist.
As for Nigel Farage pronunciation- I am from the Midlands and most people refer to a garage as 'garridge' so am not surprised to hear someone else from the Midlands refer to Farage as 'Farridge'. The important thing though is how does NF pronounce his own name- which is how we should pronounce it. To not do so is just childish and insulting- in pretty much the same way as others use Fanny (whoever that is), Gobber (again who?) Brian, Vallen etc. It is the sort of behaviour you would expect from someone in primary school. I didn't like it then and I don't like it now- but as someone who mild Asperger's then I spose it is no wonder I really do not understand the culture of picking on and insulting people.
As for Nigel Farage pronunciation- I am from the Midlands and most people refer to a garage as 'garridge' so am not surprised to hear someone else from the Midlands refer to Farage as 'Farridge'. The important thing though is how does NF pronounce his own name- which is how we should pronounce it. To not do so is just childish and insulting- in pretty much the same way as others use Fanny (whoever that is), Gobber (again who?) Brian, Vallen etc. It is the sort of behaviour you would expect from someone in primary school. I didn't like it then and I don't like it now- but as someone who mild Asperger's then I spose it is no wonder I really do not understand the culture of picking on and insulting people.
NF pronounces it Farrage and once JOB used the right pronunciation before going back to childishly saying "Farridge" he knows what he is doing.
He has a fetish for UKIP they get mentioned almost daily.
What we do know about James O'Brien is this he loves multiculturalism though he lives in leafy Chiswick not in a nice multicultural area of the capital.
But if he lived in a council house then he would be vilified by the right wing media for that. The name Bob Crow comes to mind.
The only reason that I can think of is that the right wing media have to smear the left wing at every possible chance to stop left wing ideas gaining momentum and support. Just witness the despicable behaviour now from the right wing blairites in the labour party such as Liz Kendall, Harriett Harman, John Mann, Simon Danczuk and Yvette Cooper who have turned on one of their own colleagues because he represents a contrary view to theirs. Only Andy Burnham comes out with some dignity by not getting involved in the character assassination of Jeremy Corbyn.
But I'm getting too political now so will keep quiet.
Somebody who talks normal and says: 'It's my view Janner should go to court and face justice. If he's guilty of course.'
O'Brien would say: 'All right. I need some help here. I think I'm right. I could be wrong. Not withstanding my comments in the past (fake snigger).
'I'll set my stall out, but like I said, I need some help here. That's if you're doing nothing this raining morn. Lord Janner, yeah, you all know him. I, I, I (fake stutter) don't know how to take on this argument. Do I agree he should go to court and face justice. Whatever justice is. Or do I take the lesser higher ground, and nail my thoughts to the mast - the proof is in the pudding - so to speak. You know the number...'
NF pronounces it Farrage and once JOB used the right pronunciation before going back to childishly saying "Farridge" he knows what he is doing.
As I posted then O'Brien is completely wrong and being totally childish and incapable of a reasoned debate based on policies if name calling is all that he can resort to.
What would you like us to discuss? I'm very much open to new subjects and I'm sure most of the other regulars are too, so........?
Maybe not new- but the awful and limited number of adverts that LBC seem to play (I am listening on DAB). Most of them drive me insane (more than usual some may say) especially as they seem to play the same ads each break and for days on end but I will admit to liking the one voiced by (I think) Ray Meagher that being a non-bouncing kangaroo as "essentially a giant squirrel."
But the worst really must go to the appalling Craig Ogden cd of what appears to be, as my male parental figure put it, "music to kill yourself too." As the ad states "A perfect summer deserves perfect music" well judging by the summer had in the Midlands- ie windy, overcast and rainy, then that certainly is the music we deserve. It continues "Be transported away by Craig Ogden and friends..." - I really wish he could be transported away- perhaps back to Australia...
Somebody who talks normal and says: 'It's my view Janner should go to court and face justice. If he's guilty of course.'
O'Brien would say: 'All right. I need some help here. I think I'm right. I could be wrong. Not withstanding my comments in the past (fake snigger).
'I'll set my stall out, but like I said, I need some help here. That's if you're doing nothing this raining morn. Lord Janner, yeah, you all know him. I, I, I (fake stutter) don't know how to take on this argument. Do I agree he should go to court and face justice. Whatever justice is. Or do I take the lesser higher ground, and nail my thoughts to the mast - the proof is in the pudding - so to speak. You know the number...'
THAT IS NOT NORMAL.
"Well, I take your point, but -not wanting to butter any parsnips- I think it's a difficult issue which we need to be careful about, there... there is obviously some debate to be had here... I might be wrong but... and I may have made comments in the past which contradict what I'm about to say... but I'm 80% sure that I didn't... but even if I did... that's not saying that I did but just saying that if I did then I'm acknowledging that if I did then I didn't... the number is 034560 *oh wait we haven't got any lines open* oh yes we have now, it always gets hectic this time of the morning... now we have a line open, if you couldn't get through earlier then give us a call now... let's get the travel."
I have no idea what you read but your apparent belief that James O'Brien is in any way socialist suggests that you have very little idea of what socialism is and prefer to use the lazy stereotypes perpetuated by certain newspapers.
Just slagging someone off based on your perception of their political views just lacks any class or dignity and is used in the absence of any credible reasoning. Still have not had an explanation of what a 'champagne socialist' actually is.
You really don't know what a champagne socialist is? Really?
Maybe not new- but the awful and limited number of adverts that LBC seem to play (I am listening on DAB). Most of them drive me insane (more than usual some may say) especially as they seem to play the same ads each break and for days on end but I will admit to liking the one voiced by (I think) Ray Meagher that being a non-bouncing kangaroo as "essentially a giant squirrel."
But the worst really must go to the appalling Craig Ogden cd of what appears to be, as my male parental figure put it, "music to kill yourself too." As the ad states "A perfect summer deserves perfect music" well judging by the summer had in the Midlands- ie windy, overcast and rainy, then that certainly is the music we deserve. It continues "Be transported away by Craig Ogden and friends..." - I really wish he could be transported away- perhaps back to Australia...
I listen on DAB as well and I agree, it seems there are a select 20 adverts they play on a loop for a week, and when you've heard the same one 10 times it begins to drive you a bit mad.
You really don't know what a champagne socialist is? Really?
No really I don't- apart from being used as an insulting and derogatory term by the right wing. Please enlighten me. (I have refrained from using googling it 'Mystery Hour style' to keep in the spirit of LBC)
I listen on DAB as well and I agree, it seems there are a select 20 adverts they play on a loop for a week, and when you've heard the same one 10 times it begins to drive you a bit mad.
Sometimes I have to switch the DAB off and listen on the app for that very reason. The one for Marie Curie cancer support is played endlessly on DAB and although powerful/effective you actually start to dread hearing it yet again, but invariably have to.
Does it suggest that LBC aren't doing very well nationally if they can't get advertisers for DAB?
Sometimes I have to switch the DAB off and listen on the app for that very reason. The one for Marie Curie cancer support is played endlessly on DAB and although powerful/effective you actually start to dread hearing it yet again, but invariably have to.
Does it suggest that LBC aren't doing very well nationally if they can't get advertisers for DAB?
Are the ads different on DAB ? I rarely listen to DAB.
I do find I can 'tune out' most ads. They just wash over me. If after an ad break you asked me to name the products advertised, I would be hard pushed to name then ;-)
He's one of those people that is mesmeric to listen to.
You might not like what he is saying, but you have to listen when he speaks.
My only fear is that he might have his lawyer on speed dial, as he can get quite defensive over certain issues (Saddam & Palestine to name but two) & can threaten to sue people for defamation etc, but otherwise he's usually a good listen.
I have no idea what you read but your apparent belief that James O'Brien is in any way socialist suggests that you have very little idea of what socialism is and prefer to use the lazy stereotypes perpetuated by certain newspapers.
Just slagging someone off based on your perception of their political views just lacks any class or dignity and is used in the absence of any credible reasoning. Still have not had an explanation of what a 'champagne socialist' actually is.
I think a 'Champagne Socialist' is vaguely opposite to being a 'Council House Tory'.;-)
A person who espouses socialist ideals while enjoying a wealthy and luxurious lifestyle. See Brian.
IE a childish insult used in the absence of any other argument. Still not sure how this applies to James O'Brien as he does not espouse 'socialist views'. Or is it that anyone who has any sort of compassion or concern for fellow citizens is considered to be left wing or socialist- not a good advert for the right then....
The political views of a presenter are not that important to me- I am quite mature enough to be able to listen to views that are contrary to mine, provided they are based on facts- what appeals to me are the subjects chosen- I am overloaded with terrorism and religion to the extent that I can take no more- and the style of the presenter. I can't listen to Nick Ferrari as I don't like his shouting but Iain Dale- no probs.
IE a childish insult used in the absence of any other argument. Still not sure how this applies to James O'Brien as he does not espouse 'socialist views'. Or is it that anyone who has any sort of compassion or concern for fellow citizens is considered to be left wing or socialist- not a good advert for the right then....
Two excellent posts, if I may say so.
I'll send you a PM about something else you've said - hope that's OK
IE a childish insult used in the absence of any other argument. Still not sure how this applies to James O'Brien as he does not espouse 'socialist views'. Or is it that anyone who has any sort of compassion or concern for fellow citizens is considered to be left wing or socialist- not a good advert for the right then....
He does not espouse socialist views in your opinion, he even admits he is a yoghurt knitting, hand wringing 'leftie'. Brian has concern for others when he can make media capital from it. He espouses multi-culturalism but hides away in an almost entirely white, middle class enclave in his million pound plus house.
Somebody who talks normal and says: 'It's my view Janner should go to court and face justice. If he's guilty of course.'
O'Brien would say: 'All right. I need some help here. I think I'm right. I could be wrong. Not withstanding my comments in the past (fake snigger).
'I'll set my stall out, but like I said, I need some help here. That's if you're doing nothing this raining morn. Lord Janner, yeah, you all know him. I, I, I (fake stutter) don't know how to take on this argument. Do I agree he should go to court and face justice. Whatever justice is. Or do I take the lesser higher ground, and nail my thoughts to the mast - the proof is in the pudding - so to speak. You know the number...'
Or is it that anyone who has any sort of compassion or concern for fellow citizens is considered to be left wing or socialist- not a good advert for the right then....
He does not espouse socialist views in your opinion, he even admits he is a yoghurt knitting, hand wringing 'leftie'. Brian has concern for others when he can make media capital from it. He espouses multi-culturalism but hides away in an almost entirely white, middle class enclave in his million pound plus house.
He is obviously joking.
You can be a socialist and be rich. The same way as in you can be poor or not very well off and be a Tory.
I think that most decent people support multiculturalism.
Are the ads different on DAB ? I rarely listen to DAB.
I do find I can 'tune out' most ads. They just wash over me. If after an ad break you asked me to name the products advertised, I would be hard pushed to name then ;-)
Absolutely. DAB and Sky don't carry the local London ads, or at least fewer of them. You won't hear the Galliard chairman, Mahler Restaurant, Back2 chairs etc. but you WILL hear endles cancer, broadband and phone ads, British Gas etc. the variety is much narrower so the repetition is endless.
The app carries the 97.3 version of the London specific ads.
I established this by carrying out a series of detailed scientific tests
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Still does not make him left wing or socialist.
As for Nigel Farage pronunciation- I am from the Midlands and most people refer to a garage as 'garridge' so am not surprised to hear someone else from the Midlands refer to Farage as 'Farridge'. The important thing though is how does NF pronounce his own name- which is how we should pronounce it. To not do so is just childish and insulting- in pretty much the same way as others use Fanny (whoever that is), Gobber (again who?) Brian, Vallen etc. It is the sort of behaviour you would expect from someone in primary school. I didn't like it then and I don't like it now- but as someone who mild Asperger's then I spose it is no wonder I really do not understand the culture of picking on and insulting people.
NF pronounces it Farrage and once JOB used the right pronunciation before going back to childishly saying "Farridge" he knows what he is doing.
He has a fetish for UKIP they get mentioned almost daily.
But if he lived in a council house then he would be vilified by the right wing media for that. The name Bob Crow comes to mind.
The only reason that I can think of is that the right wing media have to smear the left wing at every possible chance to stop left wing ideas gaining momentum and support. Just witness the despicable behaviour now from the right wing blairites in the labour party such as Liz Kendall, Harriett Harman, John Mann, Simon Danczuk and Yvette Cooper who have turned on one of their own colleagues because he represents a contrary view to theirs. Only Andy Burnham comes out with some dignity by not getting involved in the character assassination of Jeremy Corbyn.
But I'm getting too political now so will keep quiet.
Somebody who talks normal and says: 'It's my view Janner should go to court and face justice. If he's guilty of course.'
O'Brien would say: 'All right. I need some help here. I think I'm right. I could be wrong. Not withstanding my comments in the past (fake snigger).
'I'll set my stall out, but like I said, I need some help here. That's if you're doing nothing this raining morn. Lord Janner, yeah, you all know him. I, I, I (fake stutter) don't know how to take on this argument. Do I agree he should go to court and face justice. Whatever justice is. Or do I take the lesser higher ground, and nail my thoughts to the mast - the proof is in the pudding - so to speak. You know the number...'
THAT IS NOT NORMAL.
As I posted then O'Brien is completely wrong and being totally childish and incapable of a reasoned debate based on policies if name calling is all that he can resort to.
So people with money can't want those without to have a better life?
Maybe not new- but the awful and limited number of adverts that LBC seem to play (I am listening on DAB). Most of them drive me insane (more than usual some may say) especially as they seem to play the same ads each break and for days on end but I will admit to liking the one voiced by (I think) Ray Meagher that being a non-bouncing kangaroo as "essentially a giant squirrel."
But the worst really must go to the appalling Craig Ogden cd of what appears to be, as my male parental figure put it, "music to kill yourself too." As the ad states "A perfect summer deserves perfect music" well judging by the summer had in the Midlands- ie windy, overcast and rainy, then that certainly is the music we deserve. It continues "Be transported away by Craig Ogden and friends..." - I really wish he could be transported away- perhaps back to Australia...
That is why they have a record number of listeners.(RAJAR Q2 2015)
"Well, I take your point, but -not wanting to butter any parsnips- I think it's a difficult issue which we need to be careful about, there... there is obviously some debate to be had here... I might be wrong but... and I may have made comments in the past which contradict what I'm about to say... but I'm 80% sure that I didn't... but even if I did... that's not saying that I did but just saying that if I did then I'm acknowledging that if I did then I didn't... the number is 034560 *oh wait we haven't got any lines open* oh yes we have now, it always gets hectic this time of the morning... now we have a line open, if you couldn't get through earlier then give us a call now... let's get the travel."
You really don't know what a champagne socialist is? Really?
I listen on DAB as well and I agree, it seems there are a select 20 adverts they play on a loop for a week, and when you've heard the same one 10 times it begins to drive you a bit mad.
No really I don't- apart from being used as an insulting and derogatory term by the right wing. Please enlighten me. (I have refrained from using googling it 'Mystery Hour style' to keep in the spirit of LBC)
Sometimes I have to switch the DAB off and listen on the app for that very reason. The one for Marie Curie cancer support is played endlessly on DAB and although powerful/effective you actually start to dread hearing it yet again, but invariably have to.
Does it suggest that LBC aren't doing very well nationally if they can't get advertisers for DAB?
I think we all want hard working people to have a better life
-- its Gobber's modus operandi which is the issue .
The man just tries enormously hard to be lampooned
Are the ads different on DAB ? I rarely listen to DAB.
I do find I can 'tune out' most ads. They just wash over me. If after an ad break you asked me to name the products advertised, I would be hard pushed to name then ;-)
noun BRITISH derogatory
A person who espouses socialist ideals while enjoying a wealthy and luxurious lifestyle. See Brian.
He's one of those people that is mesmeric to listen to.
You might not like what he is saying, but you have to listen when he speaks.
My only fear is that he might have his lawyer on speed dial, as he can get quite defensive over certain issues (Saddam & Palestine to name but two) & can threaten to sue people for defamation etc, but otherwise he's usually a good listen.
I think a 'Champagne Socialist' is vaguely opposite to being a 'Council House Tory'.;-)
IE a childish insult used in the absence of any other argument. Still not sure how this applies to James O'Brien as he does not espouse 'socialist views'. Or is it that anyone who has any sort of compassion or concern for fellow citizens is considered to be left wing or socialist- not a good advert for the right then....
Two excellent posts, if I may say so.
I'll send you a PM about something else you've said - hope that's OK
He does not espouse socialist views in your opinion, he even admits he is a yoghurt knitting, hand wringing 'leftie'. Brian has concern for others when he can make media capital from it. He espouses multi-culturalism but hides away in an almost entirely white, middle class enclave in his million pound plus house.
I think that's what it is.
He is obviously joking.
You can be a socialist and be rich. The same way as in you can be poor or not very well off and be a Tory.
I think that most decent people support multiculturalism.
Absolutely. DAB and Sky don't carry the local London ads, or at least fewer of them. You won't hear the Galliard chairman, Mahler Restaurant, Back2 chairs etc. but you WILL hear endles cancer, broadband and phone ads, British Gas etc. the variety is much narrower so the repetition is endless.
The app carries the 97.3 version of the London specific ads.
I established this by carrying out a series of detailed scientific tests
(I switched both on at the same time