I don't watch these videos and I condemn any sites who link them. I'm glad Digital Spy haven't done that, what a shame their effort has gone to waste with people sharing the footage in this thread.
There's no injury or death visible in the video, stop with the moral grandstanding.
I can see the problem just as clearly as you and agree it's not a good situation. Happy to hear any suggestions beyond "it shouldn't happen" etc.
We don't all live in a gumdrop house on Lollipop Lane.
The solution as proven in other countries is to increase gun control and aim for a culture shift.
The USA is still stuck in a frontier mentality.
Violent gun crime is simply off the scale in the US compared to western Europe.
The disgruntled fired employee coming back to shoot colleagues is a recurring theme in the US.
I don't watch these videos and I condemn any sites who link them. I'm glad Digital Spy haven't done that, what a shame their effort has gone to waste with people sharing the footage in this thread.
I find it very scary how attacks like this are happening all the time. What a vile species the human race is.
That's your prerogative, but it doesn't make you some kind of moral arbiter of the people that do.
My opinion on the culture of Americans and their belief in their constitution boils down to the fact that they are still very "frontier-minded" and like to be self-sufficient, self-dependent people. That extends to the notion that they feel they can rely only on themselves for protection, and thus want to have access to the means to defend themselves.
Are we not self-sufficient in this country?
I just don't understand the need to want to own a gun, to me it is pointless and ego driven.
yes they have a system in place where you dont see people sitting on benefits for years on end like you have here or in nanny state europe. it wouldnt be allowed, if you are poor in the usa its entirely your own fault because everyone has equal opportunity. they actually dont want state inteference in their lives.
God, why aren't you my ignore list? Meant to add you ages ago.
I just don't understand the need to want to own a gun, to me it is pointless and ego driven.
I think the US are more so in their overall cultural make up. One only has to look at their sub-cultures of things like "preppers" or people who try to live "off grid" out in the sticks in the US. Or look at how they approach customising or adapting stuff.
I think as a nation, they have a much more self-reliant attitude overall.
I often think of the UK as a very "can't do" nation, and the US as a "can do" nation. We tend to put obstacles in our own way before we get on and do anything, whereas my experience with Americans is that they are a bit more optimistic about getting things done.
Of course you don't understand why the need to want to own a gun, much like you can't expect people in the US to understand why we might love afternoon tea and going to the pub on a Sunday for example. There is a massive difference in culture, but people think the US and the UK is very much the same. They aren't.
I just don't understand the need to want to own a gun, to me it is pointless and ego driven.
If you saw a man threatening people in the streets with a knife in this country most people would probably call the police, so that is reliance on the state for protection. An American who is carrying a gun might confront the person themselves, and only involve the police once they have the situation under control. That's relying on yourself for protection. Neither one is the definitive correct way, but our cultures tend to be split on this debate, which is why most British people think the way forward for America is disarming, and most Americans think the way forward for Britain is arming. While I can see that restrictions on gun ownership has worked here, I just don't think it would work the same over there because of this vast divide in our cultures.
Why is it always explained away as "mental health issues" when the suspect is a white male ?
I have seen plenty of reports when the suspect is a black person that also mention mental health, at the end of the day if mental health is a factor then it will be mentioned
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The solution as proven in other countries is to increase gun control and aim for a culture shift.
The USA is still stuck in a frontier mentality.
Violent gun crime is simply off the scale in the US compared to western Europe.
The disgruntled fired employee coming back to shoot colleagues is a recurring theme in the US.
That's your prerogative, but it doesn't make you some kind of moral arbiter of the people that do.
this
and i bet hell be on anti depressants and or cannabis as well
like most is not all of these people
Why is it always explained away as "mental health issues" when the suspect is a white male ?
edit - I see ustarion had posted this news a while back.
Are we not self-sufficient in this country?
I just don't understand the need to want to own a gun, to me it is pointless and ego driven.
God, why aren't you my ignore list? Meant to add you ages ago.
I have no idea what race the suspect is. I don't think you can be fully sane if you kill in cold blood two people. It's not normal.
Isn't that how the reasoning goes?
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I think the US are more so in their overall cultural make up. One only has to look at their sub-cultures of things like "preppers" or people who try to live "off grid" out in the sticks in the US. Or look at how they approach customising or adapting stuff.
I think as a nation, they have a much more self-reliant attitude overall.
I often think of the UK as a very "can't do" nation, and the US as a "can do" nation. We tend to put obstacles in our own way before we get on and do anything, whereas my experience with Americans is that they are a bit more optimistic about getting things done.
Of course you don't understand why the need to want to own a gun, much like you can't expect people in the US to understand why we might love afternoon tea and going to the pub on a Sunday for example. There is a massive difference in culture, but people think the US and the UK is very much the same. They aren't.
If you saw a man threatening people in the streets with a knife in this country most people would probably call the police, so that is reliance on the state for protection. An American who is carrying a gun might confront the person themselves, and only involve the police once they have the situation under control. That's relying on yourself for protection. Neither one is the definitive correct way, but our cultures tend to be split on this debate, which is why most British people think the way forward for America is disarming, and most Americans think the way forward for Britain is arming. While I can see that restrictions on gun ownership has worked here, I just don't think it would work the same over there because of this vast divide in our cultures.
Always?
Don't do it then.
I have seen plenty of reports when the suspect is a black person that also mention mental health, at the end of the day if mental health is a factor then it will be mentioned
This is all to common in the US
RIP to those poor people
America however will never change, it's only going to get worse
Why not?
Quite morbid too
That video is on liveleak.