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Bookies odds shifting in the Labour Leadership race
Hildaonpluto
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Take a look at @MrHarryCole's Tweet: https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/639393938705657856?s=09
Apparently only about half of people eligible to vote in the Labour party contest so far have and Yvette Coopers odds are improving overtaking Burnham again.
There's no denying that Yvette has been admirable this week showing courage over the migrant crisis
Apparently only about half of people eligible to vote in the Labour party contest so far have and Yvette Coopers odds are improving overtaking Burnham again.
There's no denying that Yvette has been admirable this week showing courage over the migrant crisis
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And again -Cooper definitely has momentum with this drastic increase in her favour
What "courage" has Yvette shown over the migrant crisis? All she's done is say the UK should take in 10,000 Syrians. Hardly courageous!
No more courageous than she and her cohorts who let millions of them in between 1997 and 2010.
I thought it especially commendable that she invited an migrant family to live with Ed Balls and herself and feed them.
I admire Cooper though. She said something people would show outrage over, many on the Right have, but then the dead baby happened and suddenly most of the Right Wing media (in particular The Sun) have woken up found a conscience and are in agreement with her.
I think the issue is that Britain has only took in 200 people from Syria while Germany is taking tens of thousands. I feel embarrassed.
She as a mother has spoken directly to other mothers and caused a mood change.
Girl power
I'm referring to political courage something Cameron and Osborne are lacking.
I think you knew I was referring to political courage and the leadership that accompanies it.
This is not an issue for forum flippancy. The specific meaning of political courage is well understood on political forums.
I think this is inappropriate and a bit cheap tbh on such a sensitive issue especially as Yvette Cooper hasn't called on UK families to have refugees come and live in their own spare bedrooms and personally house them.
Deary me more confusion and conflation between asylum seekers and immigrants
Wondered why it was easy to get Mahshi & Kibbeh these days
I've found the Right on here are always so angry, aggressive and genuinely don't seem to care about anyone or anything beyond their own personal interests. They also don't seem to understand this is a refugee crisis.
I agree with you that Cooper has shown leadership even if her view was likely to make her unpopular but at least she had the balls (no pun intended) to actually step up and say something rather than issuing soundbites about how 'terrible' it is while burying your head in the sand the way Cameron has in the hope it will go away so that the far right of his party won't get upset.
An excellent post.
There's lots of conflating between asylum and immigration amongst the media and public and taking a lead against widely held damaging assumptions is a mark of political courage in my opinion.
The Right Wing media, aided by the Tories, demonized anyone who came here from the EU as lazy benefit thieves robbing from the state. So suddenly all the immigration lines became blurred and the Tories used this to push their own agenda through.
The problem now is that this has all blown up, the public mood is changing and Cameron is like a rabbit caught in the headlights. This is what happens when you tell lies to get elected.
Yeah, and we all know how that's going to pan out don't we....
Your rapidly becoming my favourite poster on the politics forum as you've got Cameron, Osborne and the company they keep and type of support they court down to a tee!
Their antics are shameful and I feel they've been shown to be despicable cowards on this issue.
Is she concerned that no one in the UK will vote Labour anymore so she's trying to get new voters from abroad?
Ah! Political courage! That old cliche! The very fact you accuse me of flippancy is slightly ironic considering this is a thread about betting odds - hardly a groundbreaking subject.
I'm not surprised however that Cooper is beating Burnham. Burnham has shown himself to be out of his depth over virtually everything.
Your comments about Cameron and Osborne, of course even you, being the intelligent person you proclaim yourself to be, will appreciate that politics and political actions of politicians are subjective and never really definitive. You might think of the Tories as you describe, I don't. Doesn't make you right or wrong in the same way it doesn't make me right or wrong.
We are part of the EU, a leading member were told and yet our contribution on this has been woefully inadequate.
We are not morally taking our fair share and even some tory MP's are getting vocal about this now making this precise point.
The left perfectly understand that this is a refugee crisis indeed a humanitarian crisis yet you'd never guess that Cameron had figured that out given how few we've offered to take in from the refugee camps.
Don't tell me it's a refugee crisis that needs all European countries including the UK to take their fare share of the burden -tell Cameron.
I haven't proclaimed myself to be intelligent but there are a number of your past posts on here were YOU tell me that you consider me to be intelligent.
Actually political compliments aren't as cut and dry as you make out -I think a number of Conservative politicians over the years have shown political courage and I have no problem saying that despite the fact that I wouldn't vote for them ever.
One example would be Norman Fowler who pushed through a controversial series of public health adverts in the 1980s when the HIV epidemic shrouded in stigma first emerged. He pressed ahead despite much opposition and the scepticism of Ms Thatcher. The adverts caused a backlash but we're judged to be hugely effective.
Excellent point -It's not over yet, nothing is definite that's for sure!