Other ratings:
Doctor Foster - 7.58m (+1.53m)
An Inspector Calls - 6.82m (+0.98m)
The X Factor (Sat) - 8.80m/9.20m (+1.25m/+1.29m)
The X Factor (Sun) - 8.14m/8.54m (+1.17m/+1.20m)
Gogglebox - 4.74m/5.44m (+1.20m/+1.30m)
No HD rating for Doc Martin, will hopefully obtain it via Broadcast at the end of this week.
Are those timeshifts for XF a little lower than normal?
When you look at Xtra Factor compared to BGMT, they are both in different leagues. BGMT is often able to be more enjoyable than the main BGT show on ITV, Xtra Factor is just tedious.
BGMT gets over 1m, sometimes touching 1.7m. The Xtra Factor doesn't even get 1/3 of that. I seriously think they should get Stephen Mulhern to spice it up a bit, go more for the comedy element.
Xtra Factor feels tacky and cheap IMO. And the hosts try awkwardly hard to be comedic
BGMT feels more natural and like a standalone show, kind of like you say. The ratings gap is deserved IMO.
I could be wrong but are people confusing it with Pop Idol Extra which ran Wed-Fri?
I loved Pop Idol Extra. Very much an early digital show where they didn't really seem to know what to do on it. They were literally showing the rehearsals of the Saturday show in full and live which I can't imagine they'd do today.
Looks like C5's Friends marathon last weekend did pretty well. No figures for the main channel (so no single episode topped 0.63m exc. +1) but a few screenings on C5+1 made the channel's top 10 to give us an idea:
So probably averaged around 0.6m-0.7m (inc. +1) across the afternoon. Not bad for daytime C5 and four times what it gets on a good day on Comedy Central.
If I'm channel hopping I tend to stumble across Stargate Atlantis, which is good to see on fta tv.
Sky One always used to be the channel to go to for the top American shows, but with so much buying power from Channels 4 and 5, they so seem to struggle at times. At least occasionally they do try their own drama commissions, which is something that Channel 5 should try again - but not Minder. I don't quite know why anyone thought that they could recreate that particular series.
Suspects has been critically acclaimed and does okay ratings wise. Considering that BBC Two and Channel 4 have done quite well with drama this year for the most part, I think commissioning one or two new original dramas a year should be a goal for 5 moving forward
Interesting article on the BBC about the current ratings of the big shows.
Doctor Who recorded lower-than-expected audiences on Saturday, when Peter Capaldi's return to the Tardis drew 4.6 million people to BBC One.
But an analysis of last year's series by ratings body BARB showed that, on average, viewership increased by 39% in the week after an episode was broadcast.
TXF grew 20% on the original overnight quoted in the article and if DW increases by a similar 39% as per last year, it will come in at a respectable 6.4
Interesting article on the BBC about the current ratings of the big shows.
Doctor Who recorded lower-than-expected audiences on Saturday, when Peter Capaldi's return to the Tardis drew 4.6 million people to BBC One.
But an analysis of last year's series by ratings body BARB showed that, on average, viewership increased by 39% in the week after an episode was broadcast.
TXF grew 20% on the original overnight quoted in the article and if DW increases by a similar 39% as per last year, it will come in at a respectable 6.4
6.4 would still be the lowest launch since it came back, that's not really respectable(was hoping it would do better)
I think 6.4 would be respectable, season opener or not all things considered. Such as how weak some Season 8 episodes were, and how much all of the main channels seem to be down on their audience for their big shows this year excluding the Bake Off.
Interesting article on the BBC about the current ratings of the big shows.
Doctor Who recorded lower-than-expected audiences on Saturday, when Peter Capaldi's return to the Tardis drew 4.6 million people to BBC One.
But an analysis of last year's series by ratings body BARB showed that, on average, viewership increased by 39% in the week after an episode was broadcast.
TXF grew 20% on the original overnight quoted in the article and if DW increases by a similar 39% as per last year, it will come in at a respectable 6.4
Terrible article by BBC News standards. I don't know where to start there's so many problems with it. It actually made me quite cross the lengths they have gone to defend Doctor Who. Why not wait until the finals are in if that's the ultimate goal rather than make convenient assumptions? And when talking about a uniquely high timeshifter like Doctor Who, this should be made clear, not used as evidence against overnights.
The bottom line is the overnights are far from dead, it's all down to how you interpret them. There is slightly more to take into account, and comparisons to previous years are increasingly difficult, but that's about it. I think series-on-series comparisons are still perfectly valid because, whilst PVR/catchup viewership is still on the rise, it hasn't increased by any significant percentage since Dr Who was last on. And so if it's lost a lot of viewers in the overnights, that is still a story. Not a complete one, but not something that can be neatly excused before the full facts are even in.
You sense overnights getting a bad press recently is just journos and PR people crowing that they can't write the maximum effectiveness headlines they want through fear of being made to look silly later when the officials come in. Well boohoo, try analysing for once and stop looking at ratings from such a narrow viewpoint. It's the media's obsession with the overnights that is the problem, and the way ratings are reported in this country, certainly not the overnights themselves.
No they definitely had midweek Xtra Factors back when Ben Shephard presented it.
They had a Friday Xtra Factor for the first series. I can't remember mid-week. Pop Idol used to run for 2/3 days on ITV 2. It was excellent as you saw them in the preliminary rounds all practising. Far more 'real' in terms of talent show rather than staged stuff these shows have become.
Terrible article by BBC News standards. I don't know where to start there's so many problems with it. It actually made me quite cross the lengths they have gone to defend Doctor Who. Why not wait until the finals are in if that's the ultimate goal rather than make convenient assumptions? And when talking about a uniquely high timeshifter like Doctor Who, this should be made clear, not used as evidence against overnights.
The bottom line is the overnights are far from dead, it's all down to how you interpret them. There is slightly more to take into account, and comparisons to previous years are increasingly difficult, but that's about it. I think series-on-series comparisons are still perfectly valid because, whilst PVR/catchup viewership is still on the rise, it hasn't increased by any significant percentage since Dr Who was last on. And so if it's lost a lot of viewers in the overnights, that is still a story. Not a complete one, but not something that can be neatly excused before the full facts are even in.
You sense overnights getting a bad press recently is just journos and PR people crowing that they can't write the maximum effectiveness headlines they want through fear of being made to look silly later when the officials come in. Well boohoo, try analysing for once and stop looking at ratings from such a narrow viewpoint. It's the media's obsession with the overnights that is the problem, and the way ratings are reported in this country, certainly not the overnights themselves.
Despite what was said at the big leaders style debate, overnights are very important to the commercial channels and to an extent, the BBC.
Overnights are irrelevant to the newspapers except when they want to bash a giant that is falling - TXF is one particular example. The show debuted low and there were numerous articles, now it has risen slightly and stabilised - the press have little interest. Of course they could just be waiting for Strictly to return to highlight how low TXF is compared to previous years again.
The article did seem to try and be a damage limitation exercise for DW, but compared to the articles that are strewn around the main page on here ...... well DS articles are very inconsistent shall we say.
Dancc, I am sorry that the article has angered you. No one needs to be pissed off so early in the week.
Terrible article by BBC News standards. I don't know where to start there's so many problems with it. It actually made me quite cross the lengths they have gone to defend Doctor Who.
*snip*
They certainly weren't defending it on Sunday with this headline on their newspage
Despite what was said at the big leaders style debate, overnights are very important to the commercial channels and to an extent, the BBC.
Overnights are irrelevant to the newspapers except when they want to bash a giant that is falling - TXF is one particular example. The show debuted low and there were numerous articles, now it has risen slightly and stabilised - the press have little interest. Of course they could just be waiting for Strictly to return to highlight how low TXF is compared to previous years again.
The article did seem to try and be a damage limitation exercise for DW, but compared to the articles that are strewn around the main page on here ...... well DS articles are very inconsistent shall we say.
Dancc, I am sorry that the article has angered you. No one needs to be pissed off so early in the week.
No worries Mark, it didn't have any lasting impact !! It's been a grand old start to the week in general.
There is a reason why I tend to avoid ratings articles in the press. But I expect better from BBC News.
BBC2 had a pretty poor evening but Family Guy did batter in a later slot.
The Rugby did better yesterday than Saturday, and is helping ITV get iys best al day shares since......? A long, long time.
Ch4 had a poor evening.
I think it may also be that the new episodes of Family Guy are specifically advertised as new now, so more viewers have realised that these are new episodes and not just the same old repeats.
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Are those timeshifts for XF a little lower than normal?
I could be wrong but are people confusing it with Pop Idol Extra which ran Wed-Fri?
BGMT feels more natural and like a standalone show, kind of like you say. The ratings gap is deserved IMO.
So probably averaged around 0.6m-0.7m (inc. +1) across the afternoon. Not bad for daytime C5 and four times what it gets on a good day on Comedy Central.
Suspects has been critically acclaimed and does okay ratings wise. Considering that BBC Two and Channel 4 have done quite well with drama this year for the most part, I think commissioning one or two new original dramas a year should be a goal for 5 moving forward
Doctor Who recorded lower-than-expected audiences on Saturday, when Peter Capaldi's return to the Tardis drew 4.6 million people to BBC One.
But an analysis of last year's series by ratings body BARB showed that, on average, viewership increased by 39% in the week after an episode was broadcast.
TXF grew 20% on the original overnight quoted in the article and if DW increases by a similar 39% as per last year, it will come in at a respectable 6.4
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-34313695
Saturday - Live + VOSDAL: 4.645m
+ Day 1: 5.737m
Currently up just over a million after one day. It does tend to level off as the week goes on.
But as you have said, it would have been the lowest launch for new DW series
I think 6.4 would be respectable, season opener or not all things considered. Such as how weak some Season 8 episodes were, and how much all of the main channels seem to be down on their audience for their big shows this year excluding the Bake Off.
The bottom line is the overnights are far from dead, it's all down to how you interpret them. There is slightly more to take into account, and comparisons to previous years are increasingly difficult, but that's about it. I think series-on-series comparisons are still perfectly valid because, whilst PVR/catchup viewership is still on the rise, it hasn't increased by any significant percentage since Dr Who was last on. And so if it's lost a lot of viewers in the overnights, that is still a story. Not a complete one, but not something that can be neatly excused before the full facts are even in.
You sense overnights getting a bad press recently is just journos and PR people crowing that they can't write the maximum effectiveness headlines they want through fear of being made to look silly later when the officials come in. Well boohoo, try analysing for once and stop looking at ratings from such a narrow viewpoint. It's the media's obsession with the overnights that is the problem, and the way ratings are reported in this country, certainly not the overnights themselves.
I would just do a single special next year and then launch the next series in 2017 in one chunk. Give it a rest.
Its not pulling a casual audience anymore. Rest, reform the production team and come back refreshed.
The Rugby World Cup did very well, doing just the job ITV need it to. When was the last time ITV won the day in all-day shares!?
This will never work, There isn't really a demand for the show on the weekend.
No they definitely had midweek Xtra Factors back when Ben Shephard presented it.
They had a Friday Xtra Factor for the first series. I can't remember mid-week. Pop Idol used to run for 2/3 days on ITV 2. It was excellent as you saw them in the preliminary rounds all practising. Far more 'real' in terms of talent show rather than staged stuff these shows have become.
Although its good for a drama, that is less than the overnights of 2013. Its in the same situation as New Tricks.
Celerbrity Juice 1.52m - almost double the overnight and 2nd most watched for the multi-channel
Although both are heavily down from their heyday.
Despite what was said at the big leaders style debate, overnights are very important to the commercial channels and to an extent, the BBC.
Overnights are irrelevant to the newspapers except when they want to bash a giant that is falling - TXF is one particular example. The show debuted low and there were numerous articles, now it has risen slightly and stabilised - the press have little interest. Of course they could just be waiting for Strictly to return to highlight how low TXF is compared to previous years again.
The article did seem to try and be a damage limitation exercise for DW, but compared to the articles that are strewn around the main page on here ...... well DS articles are very inconsistent shall we say.
Dancc, I am sorry that the article has angered you. No one needs to be pissed off so early in the week.
Doctor Who sees millions desert opening episode
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-34307519
Then picks up viewers on BBC iPlayer so that so called news story may of being a promotional push
There is a reason why I tend to avoid ratings articles in the press. But I expect better from BBC News.
I agree though its a terrible article - maybe the cutbacks at BBC News have already started !! ;-)
I think it may also be that the new episodes of Family Guy are specifically advertised as new now, so more viewers have realised that these are new episodes and not just the same old repeats.