People on Twitter were quite harsh about her decision but she was being honest, we don't know what her son went through before.
The date was going well up until the moment he let slip that he had a drugs past. Her honesty should be applauded as she could so easily have agreed to another date and backed out off camera.
We had a bit of a debate about it in my house. One of us said he shouldn't have told her on first date, I said it's part of who he is and has made him the person he is today so there's no point in hiding it. I didn't catch if he said how long he'd been sober/clean, I don't know if that would have made any difference. The thing is he's probably more settled and stable because of what he's been through than men she'd meet on a night out.
We had a bit of a debate about it in my house. One of us said he shouldn't have told her on first date, I said it's part of who he is and has made him the person he is today so there's no point in hiding it. I didn't catch if he said how long he'd been sober/clean, I don't know if that would have made any difference. The thing is he's probably more settled and stable because of what he's been through than men she'd meet on a night out.
She said it was because of her child and not wanting to take a chance
There is a school of thought that people in recovery from addiction are 'better than well'.
She was quite happy to knock back a few glasses of wine and go back to look after her son, whilst her date remained sober and she judged him on a dead & buried drug problem.
He has been there, recognised a problem, and made a decision to step away from it, whilst many others of us (myself included - although I don't have children) go out and get at least occasionally hammered.
Getting drunk is OK because it s legal, a couple of glasses of wine every day to take the edges off is OK because it's legal, but deciding to stay sober (of drugs and alcohol) because you know you have a problem isn't OK & makes you a danger to children?
I don't judge her for her decision, because she made it believing it was the right thing for her child, but it was an uneducated decision, and I think, her loss.
There is a school of thought that people in recovery from addiction are 'better than well'.
She was quite happy to knock back a few glasses of wine and go back to look after her son, whilst her date remained sober and she judged him on a dead & buried drug problem.
He has been there, recognised a problem, and made a decision to step away from it, whilst many others of us (myself included - although I don't have children) go out and get at least occasionally hammered.
Getting drunk is OK because it s legal, a couple of glasses of wine every day to take the edges off is OK because it's legal, but deciding to stay sober (of drugs and alcohol) because you know you have a problem isn't OK & makes you a danger to children?
I don't judge her for her decision, because she made it believing it was the right thing for her child, but it was an uneducated decision, and I think, her loss.
I would have run a mile - I gave a sober alcoholic a chance and all was well for 12 years until he lapsed. My life became a living hell for 5 years until I made the decision to divorce. It's not that we didn't have good times but I would rather have avoided what happened in the end.
I also had an uncle with an addiction that kept returning so my trust in lasting recovery is gone. I just would never take that chance again and cannot blame this lady for putting her son first.
We had a bit of a debate about it in my house. One of us said he shouldn't have told her on first date, I said it's part of who he is and has made him the person he is today so there's no point in hiding it. I didn't catch if he said how long he'd been sober/clean, I don't know if that would have made any difference. The thing is he's probably more settled and stable because of what he's been through than men she'd meet on a night out.
According to Kate, it wouldn't have mattered how long he'd been sober, i.e. it was enough that he had been a drug addict.
Although Danny was clearly aroused by Kate (the oggling of her exposed breasts), I didn't see that he was smitten with her in an ongoing girlfriend sense.
As far as I'm concerned it's no coincidence at all! I think they've ruined the show with their stupid antics. >:(
I am not sure whether it's the stupid bits with the "staff", the fact that so many daters are wannabe celebs or just that the novelty has worn off for me, but the show has definitely gone downhill as far as I'm concerned, too. In any event, it would certainly be better if they cut out Fred's creepy ramblings to camera and the daft, giggly waitresses and waiter. The only one I can stand is the barman (although another 'plant') as at least those bits are more relevant/realistic and his chats help us get to know the daters at that point. He also doesn't do any stand-alone bits - probably had the sense to refuse.
I am not sure whether it's the stupid bits with the "staff", the fact that so many daters are wannabe celebs or just that the novelty has worn off for me, but the show has definitely gone downhill as far as I'm concerned, too. In any event, it would certainly be better if they cut out Fred's creepy ramblings to camera and the daft, giggly waitresses and waiter. The only one I can stand is the barman (although another 'plant') as at least those bits are more relevant/realistic and his chats help us get to know the daters at that point. He also doesn't do any stand-alone bits - probably had the sense to refuse.
Maybe you watched a repeat i.e. the current series is all new episodes.
It's just that last Tuesday at this time it was episode 6 of Series 6. Tonight, same slot, it's episode 5 of Series 4. They usually have more than six episodes per series so I'm surprised if the latest series has finished.
I know. I knew what you were saying, was just clarifying for anyone else who hadn't necessarily seen it previously and assumed it was new.
Ah, got you.
I think the show has had its day. The ratings are down. Hardly anyone posts on here any more. That series 4, which tonight's repeat was from, was probably the heyday - there were 16 episodes!
I reckon they could get a lot of people back on board if it went back to basics. No bits to camera from the staff, no 'wannabe-personalities' as dates. Just two people who might get on and a nice meal with the cameras watching - not who can say the most outrageous things.
The problem is, if they cut the Maître D and the staff's roles down there's bound to be a vocal minority who'd miss it and complain about it on Twitter etc.
Does it annoy anyone else when Gay people can't seem to talk about anything other than "The Gay thing".. OK, we know your Gay because you're on a date with another man.. Get over it and have a conversation about something else.
Does it annoy anyone else when Gay people can't seem to talk about anything other than "The Gay thing".. OK, we know your Gay because you're on a date with another man.. Get over it and have a conversation about something else.
Can't say I have noticed this at all....maybe you are looking out for it?
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People on Twitter were quite harsh about her decision but she was being honest, we don't know what her son went through before.
The date was going well up until the moment he let slip that he had a drugs past. Her honesty should be applauded as she could so easily have agreed to another date and backed out off camera.
She said it was because of her child and not wanting to take a chance
That was a good enough reason. She had no commitment to the man, but her child is everything.
She was quite happy to knock back a few glasses of wine and go back to look after her son, whilst her date remained sober and she judged him on a dead & buried drug problem.
He has been there, recognised a problem, and made a decision to step away from it, whilst many others of us (myself included - although I don't have children) go out and get at least occasionally hammered.
Getting drunk is OK because it s legal, a couple of glasses of wine every day to take the edges off is OK because it's legal, but deciding to stay sober (of drugs and alcohol) because you know you have a problem isn't OK & makes you a danger to children?
I don't judge her for her decision, because she made it believing it was the right thing for her child, but it was an uneducated decision, and I think, her loss.
I would have run a mile - I gave a sober alcoholic a chance and all was well for 12 years until he lapsed. My life became a living hell for 5 years until I made the decision to divorce. It's not that we didn't have good times but I would rather have avoided what happened in the end.
I also had an uncle with an addiction that kept returning so my trust in lasting recovery is gone. I just would never take that chance again and cannot blame this lady for putting her son first.
According to Kate, it wouldn't have mattered how long he'd been sober, i.e. it was enough that he had been a drug addict.
Although Danny was clearly aroused by Kate (the oggling of her exposed breasts), I didn't see that he was smitten with her in an ongoing girlfriend sense.
As far as I'm concerned it's no coincidence at all! I think they've ruined the show with their stupid antics. >:(
I am not sure whether it's the stupid bits with the "staff", the fact that so many daters are wannabe celebs or just that the novelty has worn off for me, but the show has definitely gone downhill as far as I'm concerned, too. In any event, it would certainly be better if they cut out Fred's creepy ramblings to camera and the daft, giggly waitresses and waiter. The only one I can stand is the barman (although another 'plant') as at least those bits are more relevant/realistic and his chats help us get to know the daters at that point. He also doesn't do any stand-alone bits - probably had the sense to refuse.
Maybe you watched a repeat i.e. the current series is all new episodes.
It's just that last Tuesday at this time it was episode 6 of Series 6. Tonight, same slot, it's episode 5 of Series 4. They usually have more than six episodes per series so I'm surprised if the latest series has finished.
They seemed like a match made in heaven.
Thanks. Yes, I saw it before. Just surprised it's not another new one like last week, as I was just saying above.
They were great, weren't they?
I know. I knew what you were saying, was just clarifying for anyone else who hadn't necessarily seen it previously and assumed it was new.
Ah, got you.
I think the show has had its day. The ratings are down. Hardly anyone posts on here any more. That series 4, which tonight's repeat was from, was probably the heyday - there were 16 episodes!
The problem is, if they cut the Maître D and the staff's roles down there's bound to be a vocal minority who'd miss it and complain about it on Twitter etc.
Oh yes.. Because I spend my whole life looking out for things like that.