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Gordon Brown says global tax haven clampdown requires Britain's membership in the EU

Arial BlackArial Black Posts: 383
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Gordon Brown says global tax haven clampdown requires Britain's membership in the EU

This will be the same EU that appointed as its president Jean-Claude Juncker, the man under whose leadership the EU member state Luxembourg transformed itself into one of the largest tax havens in the world?

Every day, the Remainers arguments become more and more absurd.
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    psy7chpsy7ch Posts: 10,717
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    I wonder if the BBC News Channel will provide live nightly, unedited and gushing coverage of his speeches like they did during the Scottish Indy referendum campaign.
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    KJ_RedKJ_Red Posts: 175
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    Gordon Brown says...

    If Gordon Brown said the sun comes up in the morning, I would have to draw back the curtains to check!
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    Alan1981Alan1981 Posts: 5,416
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    Good old crash Gordon.
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    SpotSpot Posts: 25,129
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    So what about all the countries not in the EU? Is cooperation not needed between us and them too? If not, what is it about this supposedly global issue that cannot be dealt with outside the borders of the EU?
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    MARTYM8MARTYM8 Posts: 44,710
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    Is every nation on earth now in the EU - I thought 90 per cent weren't.

    The EU isn't the world Gordon. Most of the tax havens aren't in the EU and several are British dependencies with the Queen as head of state!

    It just gets more laughable.
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    TassiumTassium Posts: 31,639
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    The UK has been in the EU for ages and tax avoidance has never been easier.


    The dishonesty of those who would have the UK remain is quite amazing. They just find something that people care about and say it's under threat if we leave.

    It's doubly dishonest because almost always it's remaining in the EU that is causing the problem, an exit would lesson the problem. Think of the burden on the NHS for example.
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    Doghouse RileyDoghouse Riley Posts: 32,491
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    Brown's "remain," support will give the leave campaign extra impetus.
    He'll have few supporters, he's considered untrustworthy.
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    paulschapmanpaulschapman Posts: 35,536
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    Gordon Brown says global tax haven clampdown requires Britain's membership in the EU

    This will be the same EU that appointed as its president Jean-Claude Juncker, the man under whose leadership the EU member state Luxembourg transformed itself into one of the largest tax havens in the world?

    Every day, the Remainers arguments become more and more absurd.

    That maybe laying it on thick but being in the EU does make it a lot easier to co-ordinate action.
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    Jem19876Jem19876 Posts: 2,104
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    That maybe laying it on thick but being in the EU does make it a lot easier to co-ordinate action.

    Well yes, but don't let common sense stand in the way of a good whinge! Brown's own words were of course a lot more subtle, but then you admit that, you have to address the actual argument, not just take pot-shots at what someone didn't say.:confused:

    It's inevitable that the EU is in a much stronger position to take a stronger, effective, co-ordinated approach to talking tax fraud, so long as we bother to elect politicians who will prioritise that. If we keep on voting for Tories, or the international equivalents, they will just put it on the back burner while they decide what to do with their own inherited millions.
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    TassiumTassium Posts: 31,639
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    All these things the EU is supposed to be able to do, in theory.

    It's only a theory because the reality is very different isn't it?


    Ten to twenty years ago this "theory of the EU" was trotted out and many people across Europe bought into it.

    But the reality of the deal is that the EUs top-down we-know-best concept just does not work.
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    TeeGeeTeeGee Posts: 5,772
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    As usual, Brown did nothing about it while in Government..... :(
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    The infidelThe infidel Posts: 3,826
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    The EU is corrupt to the core so it would be odd if they were to try and tackle corruption elsewhere.
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    paulschapmanpaulschapman Posts: 35,536
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    TeeGee wrote: »
    As usual, Brown did nothing about it while in Government..... :(

    To be honest I may detest the man, but he did do something - Employee Benefit Trusts - which are an esoteric form of tax avoidance were outlawed on his watch. The registration of anti-avoidance schemes was also under his watch so it is not true that he did nothing.
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    innitrichieinnitrichie Posts: 9,795
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    I have almost never agreed with Gordon Brown but he is absolutely right on this occasion. Solutions to these very difficult problems require strong partners who are allied in a common goal. Now is not the time for taking a big isolationist turn in the wrong direction.
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    Rastus PiefaceRastus Pieface Posts: 4,382
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    aurichie wrote: »
    I have almost never agreed with Gordon Brown but he is absolutely right on this occasion. Solutions to these very difficult problems require strong partners who are allied in a common goal. Now is not the time for taking a big isolationist turn in the wrong direction.

    nice use of childish language there.:D:D

    please point out any brexiter on this forum who wants the UK to head for isolation.

    as for the thread topic, how do we sort this global issue when only 28 countries are in the EU? wait for the rest of the world to join? brown the idiot has spoken yet again, before engaging his brain (perhaps his shoelaces are too tight).
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    jmclaughjmclaugh Posts: 64,001
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    Global Gordon has reappeared then with the lastest faux reason to stay. There is absolutely no reason why countries that wish to tackle global tax havens need to members of the EU.
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    MargMckMargMck Posts: 24,115
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    The EU is corrupt to the core so it would be odd if they were to try and tackle corruption elsewhere.

    I'm only surprised Sepp Blatter isn't running it.

    http://uqvk92z67p11sbpjb3nr4qo1.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/gordon-brown-sepp-blatter-1400x788.jpg
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    The infidelThe infidel Posts: 3,826
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    aurichie wrote: »
    I have almost never agreed with Gordon Brown but he is absolutely right on this occasion. Solutions to these very difficult problems require strong partners who are allied in a common goal. Now is not the time for taking a big isolationist turn in the wrong direction.

    Yes, he did a lot of things during his term in office. Bringing the UK economy to its knees is his lasting legacy. The man is an incompetent bufoon. He said only 6,000 Europeans would come to work here when he sold British working people down the river. He lied.
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    normalmishanormalmisha Posts: 1,297
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    That maybe laying it on thick but being in the EU does make it a lot easier to co-ordinate action.

    Why??
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    David_ElsonDavid_Elson Posts: 1,305
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    Honestly does this Brown fellow think every one else is a thumb sucking infant.

    Since when has the U.K government been hide behind the curtains shy about collecting taxes?
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    normalmishanormalmisha Posts: 1,297
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    Jem19876 wrote: »
    Well yes, but don't let common sense stand in the way of a good whinge! Brown's own words were of course a lot more subtle, but then you admit that, you have to address the actual argument, not just take pot-shots at what someone didn't say.:confused:

    It's inevitable that the EU is in a much stronger position to take a stronger, effective, co-ordinated approach to talking tax fraud, so long as we bother to elect politicians who will prioritise that. If we keep on voting for Tories, or the international equivalents, they will just put it on the back burner while they decide what to do with their own inherited millions.

    So let's leave the EU and you can vote for the party that you want to run the country without interference. Democracy. Great.
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    GibsonSGGibsonSG Posts: 23,681
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    Gordon Brown says global tax haven clampdown requires Britain's membership in the EU

    This will be the same EU that appointed as its president Jean-Claude Juncker, the man under whose leadership the EU member state Luxembourg transformed itself into one of the largest tax havens in the world?

    Every day, the Remainers arguments become more and more absurd.

    Not at all absurd it makes sense. If you take off your "everything is rosy on the other side of the fence" glasses for a moment you might see that.
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    GibsonSGGibsonSG Posts: 23,681
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    So let's leave the EU and you can vote for the party that you want to run the country without interference. Democracy. Great.

    Doesn't that happen now then?
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    Ethel_FredEthel_Fred Posts: 34,127
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    Global tax haven - crackdown requires Dave to get off his fat arse and do something about the British Overseas Territories and Crown Dependencies which would also cut the level of corruption in places like Nigeria & Afghanistan
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    Dan 54Dan 54 Posts: 1,822
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    I've heard he's a great gold salesman.
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