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Seems the Doctors strike was about money and politics after all....
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/huge-leak-of-data-reveals-junior-doctors-leaders-discussed-drawing-out-dispute-for-a-year-a7049716.html
So the patient safety angle wasn't on the top of some of the BMA members agenda, as we were told us it was, by these individuals......they also seemed to want a drawn out Industrial action which would also go against putting safety first.....very sad to see how 'some' of the members behaved.
So the patient safety angle wasn't on the top of some of the BMA members agenda, as we were told us it was, by these individuals......they also seemed to want a drawn out Industrial action which would also go against putting safety first.....very sad to see how 'some' of the members behaved.
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Seems Labour were wise to keep their distance from this dispute.
http://www.theguardian.com/society/live/2016/apr/26/junior-doctors-start-first-all-out-strike-live?page=with:block-571fa048e4b091fcbac53387#block-571fa048e4b091fcbac53387
Corbyn wasn't.
The interesting bit is whether the aim to hold the government in pointless talks for 18 months was just one left wing militant doctor's leader acting out his own fantasy, or whether it was designed to stop the talks moving on to the Consultant's working practices. Thats who where you would expect the BMA to really defend 1950s office hours, and private practice for.
Presumably you mean other than this bit..
Consultants in the NHS don't work office hours. Unless you class starting work at 7am (as most surgeons do) and finishing late, often after 10pm, office hours. Consultants are also rostered for weekends with most now taking their turns to be on site 9am to 9pm on a Saturday and Sunday.
In addition, as you have been told so many times before, many consultants don't do any private work at all. On the ward I recently left only 1 out of the 6 specialist consultants would take on any private work which was always a problem for the NHS patients who decided they would prefer to ''go private''. We had to advise them to discharge themselves and take themselves off to the nearest private hospital. We have a private ward in the hospital but the patient needs to be under a specialist consultant willing to take on the extra hours and responsibility that private work entails - and, not surprisingly, many consultants prefer to have private time with their families and friends.
However, you continue to perpetuate the same falsities.
As for the money side of the dispute, no doctor ever asked for a pay rise (there is no actual rise since the contract is cost neutral), doctors were objecting to having their existing pay for working unsocial hours cut, ie. less take home pay. We nurses will also be objecting to having our pay cut when our contract is renegotiated. Our dispute will undoubtedly be about pay alone.
Regardless of the pay issue (and pay IS important to hard working NHS staff) the doctors' contract will impact on patient safety because the existing doctor numbers will be spread out evenly over 7 days, impacting on the weekdays which are already incredibly stretched. So the dispute was about money AND safe working practices. How many people would really sit back and take a pay cut while being expected to work more unsocial hours? I certainly wouldn't (and there is a nursing strike looming).
You only have to look at dentists, opticians & GPs to see what a killing they would make through privatisation.
Guessing this is more Tory media spin.
Despite protestations that the dispute was about “safety, not pay”, the issue of weekend pay was described late last year by a JDC executive member as “the only real red line” for junior doctors. This point was only finally conceded by the JDC on 7 May when it decided to re-enter negotiations.
However, Dr Malawana discussed conceding the weekend pay issue if the government increased the medical pay bill by £500m-£700m.
http://www.hsj.co.uk/topics/workforce/exclusive-huge-leak-reveals-bma-plan-to-draw-out-junior-doctors-dispute/7005113.fullarticle
...why they couldn't have said it in the first place and had to make it all just about public safety and saying its not about pay makes them look rather silly now.
Also I notice not one mention of it on James O'Briens show on LBC this morning, not surprised he had the doctors in on a number of occasions saying it was all about public safety and privatisation and nothing to do with money at all......and I think one of those in this correspondence was his guest on the show.
You should look closer.
There's evidence (in the form of leaked emails etc going back as recently as four weeks ago) to suggest that what the BMA were publically spouting about them saving the NHS from tory privatisation and patient safety was spin and BS.
The leadership agreed a strategy of non engagement thus forcing the govt to get to the point where they'd impose the contract in order for them to then play the victim card against the nemesis of the left - an "evil" tory government.
It was all about the money.
Indeed and this strategy of non engagement and drawing out the crisis to their own ends (rightly or wrongly), put patients safety at risk....a price they were willing to pay it seems, so it wasn't about the safety of patients and indeed with their strike actions put those patients who they told publically that they were trying to protect at risk and that is very worrying.
Hardly surprising that the NHS would get used by the unions/left in an attempt to beat down a Tory government. I'm more surprised it's taken this long.
It's been used now, so expect more of these actions.
The BMA has a long tradition of being a Marxist organisation, of course...........
Classic stuff.
Who mentioned Marxist?
You think the BMA is naturally antipathetic to the Conservative Party ?
A Marxist.:)
I've no idea, do you know?
However going by the "I work in the NHS" prefix-statements on QT every week I would imagine they are.
A social democrat....aparently;-)
Some of the pickets I went through included members of the Socialist Workers Party calling for an over throw of the Tory Government. BMA Council members have been open about supporting Corbyn - so for some council members there was a clear political motivation.
Well, you were the one implying they were, in post 17.
What is your second sentence supposed to mean?
If you're referring to me I'm not a social democrat.