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    Shoe LaceShoe Lace Posts: 612
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    Thornfield wrote: »
    Anymore clues to this one please? Not sure who "Scary" could be reffering to. Someone in the cast of the Scary Movies (which I haven't seen) or something??
    Something spicy perhaps?
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    ThornfieldThornfield Posts: 767
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    Shoe Lace wrote: »
    Something spicy perhaps?

    Aaah! Got it, thanks! :)
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    MandarkMandark Posts: 47,988
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    I was thinking back to some of the old blinds I've read that would have been a sensation if they had been true and the facts made public.

    There was one blind where a backing singer was alledgedly ready to sue an A list singer/dancer for huge royalties. Why? The backing singer had provided the voice for the recordings of the A lister's chart hits and albums. The A lister? She believes that very different people can fancy each other!

    I might post a few more memories of the most sensational ones if they come to me! If anyone else remembers a bombshell one perhaps they can post too!
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    dee123dee123 Posts: 46,311
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    Mandark wrote: »
    I was thinking back to some of the old blinds I've read that would have been a sensation if they had been true and the facts made public.

    There was one blind where a backing singer was alledgedly ready to sue an A list singer/dancer for huge royalties. Why? The backing singer had provided the voice for the recordings of the A lister's chart hits and albums. The A lister? She believes that very different people can fancy each other!

    I might post a few more memories of the most sensational ones if they come to me! If anyone else remembers a bombshell one perhaps they can post too!

    Always thought this was Jenny From The Block.

    Her song Play is over 50% of her not singing and she doesn't sing the chorus on Ain't It Funny either. There are other examples too but these are the just off the top of my head.
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    ThornfieldThornfield Posts: 767
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    dee123 wrote: »
    she doesn't sing the chorus on Ain't It Funny either.

    That's pathetic.

    I absolutely loved that song when it came out, especially the chorus! :(
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    dee123dee123 Posts: 46,311
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    Thornfield wrote: »
    That's pathetic.

    I absolutely loved that song when it came out, especially the chorus! :(

    Yeah. Sadly most of Play is by the singer/actress who was in The Time Machine remake.

    Ain't It Funny and I'm Real might i add (I should say these are the official remixes that feature rappers) both choruses are sung by the r&b singer who was "Foolish"
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    Shanice also covered some of the Lopez vocals on early tracks.
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    MandarkMandark Posts: 47,988
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    dee123 wrote: »
    Always thought this was Jenny From The Block.

    Her song Play is over 50% of her not singing and she doesn't sing the chorus on Ain't It Funny either. There are other examples too but these are the just off the top of my head.
    Ah right. There's probably quite a few similar stories but I'm pretty sure the one I mentioned was revealed which is why I know who it is.

    Edit: The story was quite a few years ago as well.
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    Christina Milian hasn't got a leg to stand on. She knew what the situation was.
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    Mandark wrote: »
    I was thinking back to some of the old blinds I've read that would have been a sensation if they had been true and the facts made public.

    There was one blind where a backing singer was alledgedly ready to sue an A list singer/dancer for huge royalties. Why? The backing singer had provided the voice for the recordings of the A lister's chart hits and albums. The A lister? She believes that very different people can fancy each other!
    !

    Ah "opposites attract"!
    Not Jenny - Dancer/singer/former American Idol judge?
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    Bettty BooBettty Boo Posts: 213
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    I can remember back in the early 00s and I always thought this was common knowledge. It was certainly in the press at the time so I'm not so sure it was ever secret.
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    dee123dee123 Posts: 46,311
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    Bettty Boo wrote: »
    I can remember back in the early 00s and I always thought this was common knowledge. It was certainly in the press at the time so I'm not so sure it was ever secret.

    True. Though i think it's mostly been forgotten, both Ri-Ri and Brit-Brit are guilty of this as well but nowhere near the level that JLO dabbled in.
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    MandarkMandark Posts: 47,988
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    nosilauk wrote: »
    Ah "opposites attract"!
    Not Jenny - Dancer/singer/former American Idol judge?
    Yes I'm referring to the "opposites attract" artist who of course was also an Idol judge.
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    MandarkMandark Posts: 47,988
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    Bettty Boo wrote: »
    I can remember back in the early 00s and I always thought this was common knowledge. It was certainly in the press at the time so I'm not so sure it was ever secret.
    Who are you remembering!? Opposites attract?
    dee123 wrote: »
    True. Though i think it's mostly been forgotten, both Ri-Ri and Brit-Brit are guilty of this as well but nowhere near the level that JLO dabbled in.
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    Mandark wrote: »
    There was one blind where a backing singer was alledgedly ready to sue an A list singer/dancer for huge royalties. Why? The backing singer had provided the voice for the recordings of the A lister's chart hits and albums. The A lister? She believes that very different people can fancy each other!

    Though if they were paid Session-Musician rates for singing then they're not entitled to royalties that's akin to a person brought in to lay down a bass-line gets paid for doing it and then suing for royalties

    You either get paid up front or take a a share of the profits, seldom both
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    MandarkMandark Posts: 47,988
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    dave2702 wrote: »
    Though if they were paid Session-Musician rates for singing then they're not entitled to royalties that's akin to a person brought in to lay down a bass-line gets paid for doing it and then suing for royalties

    You either get paid up front or take a a share of the profits, seldom both
    Fair point. The blind was quite a long one and explained the situation but I can't remember it in full. I can only assume that there was some loophole the singer was looking to exploit.
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    MandarkMandark Posts: 47,988
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    Here we go, I found it and it's very, very long!!

    "Let me preface this post, by saying that if this story ever comes out, it would blow the music world up and shake it to its core..This would put the Milli Vanilli scandal and Ashlee Simpson SNL situation so far down the ladder it would be crazy.. Towards the end of last year I had a woman come into my office and she began to explain what she had done and had been doing for several years and it was one of the very few times that I just could not believe what I was hearing..I know the music industry inside and out, and I had never heard of something so extensive and pervasive as this..

    This woman (S) came into my office because the payments she had been receiving had stopped and she wanted to either get the money that was owed to her, or expose what she had been doing to the light of day.. S is a sessions/studio/backup singer and is very good..Prior to her involvement in what I am going to describe, she made a very good living singing on commercials and being a backup singer for groups and other solo acts, etc..

    Like I said she is very good, but she does not really have that “look” which would make her a star, so record companies did not put her out front, but just used her talents.. In late 2000, a man came to her one day and said he needed someone to record some demos because he had written a lot of songs, but wanted a demo to shop the songs to singers and record labels..This is not unusual at all and she had done this type of work before and it paid pretty well so she agreed.

    What was unusual about her recording of the demos was how much work was put into the actual recordings..It was extensive..Generally there is not much time put into the recordings because you never really know if the song will even sell, and the money spent on recording could be put to better uses..These demos she was recording were actually being treated as if they were going to be released on a CD or to radio..They even did some mixing which was REALLY unusual.. After a few weeks she had recorded about over a dozen songs and she went on her way and was really oblivious to anything else pertaining to it, UNTIL several months later she was in her car and heard her voice coming from the radio, only it was another singer being given credit..(We will call this other singer MV for Milli Vanilli) She could not believe what she was hearing and did not know whether to be excited to hear herself on the radio, confused about the credit given to another singer or just ****** off for the same reasons..

    What she did do, was to call the man who had originally come to her and had her record the songs..The man agreed to meet her and gave her a substantial sum of money and promised to keep giving her money every month as long as she kept her mouth shut. MV was taking off..(MV has/had several Top 40 songs and CD’s. They could have gone to #1 or languished in the 30’s..I really cannot go into much more detail or else it would be too easy to discover) MV was everywhere..on television, radio, awards shows,commercials..E VERYWHERE..meanwhile , S continued to get money every month and kept her little secret to herself..The guy who picked S was VERY lucky..

    Most singers would have caused a fuss, but S has always been in the background and was resigned to the fact she always would be, and was very happy just taking the $$, and did not want that to stop.. About 9 months go by and S is called by the guy because MV is going on tour and they want S to record some extra mixes and such for the tour..She agrees and does not really do much, but money is money.. Fast forward another year or so and S stops receiving money and after a few months of missed payments, calls the guy who explains that they need S to do another CD and then the payments can continue, but there is no more money unless she does more recordings..

    S agrees and records another CD worth of songs which is released several months later and does even better than the first CD. This same process is repeated (I am not going to tell you the number of CD’s because again you may be able to deduce and so I will just say the process repeated itself several times) Well everything goes well for the most part for all these years and then no more payments, and no more calls and she cannot even locate our mystery man..S has not received a payment in six months when she came into my office and related this story..She did not even know the guy’s name, but when she described him, I knew who he was and was even more floored than I had been previously..This was just something I had really not heard before..

    I had heard of really altering voices in the recording studios and bringing in hired hands for one song or a large portion of a song, but never CD after CD and even doing extra work so a live performance would not sound staged..I told her I needed some time to check into her story and then we could proceed..It took two calls before I got the guy on the phone and he was ******, scared, angry, threatening, remorseful..everythi ng..It turns out the reason he had stopped making payments was he had been playing some shell games with the money between the record company, MV’s earnings and MV’s investments and just did not have any additional money..In addition, MV was not sure she wanted to continue on with what had been happening and so our mystery guy might be completely out of the picture.. I actually think the record company to this day has no idea what went on as the Guy was very good at what he does/did and knew how to make sure the record company was always happy..He stayed under budget, toured, made MV available, and made the record company money..

    So a meeting was arranged in my office and S and MV finally met face to face..they had never done so, even though it was S who made MV a star..MV was rude to say the least when she saw what S looked like and it really upset me although S being her normal classy self could have cared less.. What we agreed to do that day was to provide S with one lump sum rather than a monthly income which was easier for Guy to pull off and S also agreed to never disclose her role in this drama and MV was on her own for future recordings and tours.. This involved literally millions of CD’s and hundreds of concerts all over the world..The one thing I did get out of this beside my fee of course is a Gold Record autographed by S and by MV..I know it is the only one in the world.. "
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    dee123dee123 Posts: 46,311
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    Mandark wrote: »
    Here we go, I found it and it's very, very long!!

    "Let me preface this post, by saying that if this story ever comes out, it would blow the music world up and shake it to its core..This would put the Milli Vanilli scandal and Ashlee Simpson SNL situation so far down the ladder it would be crazy.. Towards the end of last year I had a woman come into my office and she began to explain what she had done and had been doing for several years and it was one of the very few times that I just could not believe what I was hearing..I know the music industry inside and out, and I had never heard of something so extensive and pervasive as this..

    This woman (S) came into my office because the payments she had been receiving had stopped and she wanted to either get the money that was owed to her, or expose what she had been doing to the light of day.. S is a sessions/studio/backup singer and is very good..Prior to her involvement in what I am going to describe, she made a very good living singing on commercials and being a backup singer for groups and other solo acts, etc..

    Like I said she is very good, but she does not really have that “look” which would make her a star, so record companies did not put her out front, but just used her talents.. In late 2000, a man came to her one day and said he needed someone to record some demos because he had written a lot of songs, but wanted a demo to shop the songs to singers and record labels..This is not unusual at all and she had done this type of work before and it paid pretty well so she agreed.

    What was unusual about her recording of the demos was how much work was put into the actual recordings..It was extensive..Generally there is not much time put into the recordings because you never really know if the song will even sell, and the money spent on recording could be put to better uses..These demos she was recording were actually being treated as if they were going to be released on a CD or to radio..They even did some mixing which was REALLY unusual.. After a few weeks she had recorded about over a dozen songs and she went on her way and was really oblivious to anything else pertaining to it, UNTIL several months later she was in her car and heard her voice coming from the radio, only it was another singer being given credit..(We will call this other singer MV for Milli Vanilli) She could not believe what she was hearing and did not know whether to be excited to hear herself on the radio, confused about the credit given to another singer or just ****** off for the same reasons..

    What she did do, was to call the man who had originally come to her and had her record the songs..The man agreed to meet her and gave her a substantial sum of money and promised to keep giving her money every month as long as she kept her mouth shut. MV was taking off..(MV has/had several Top 40 songs and CD’s. They could have gone to #1 or languished in the 30’s..I really cannot go into much more detail or else it would be too easy to discover) MV was everywhere..on television, radio, awards shows,commercials..E VERYWHERE..meanwhile , S continued to get money every month and kept her little secret to herself..The guy who picked S was VERY lucky..

    Most singers would have caused a fuss, but S has always been in the background and was resigned to the fact she always would be, and was very happy just taking the $$, and did not want that to stop.. About 9 months go by and S is called by the guy because MV is going on tour and they want S to record some extra mixes and such for the tour..She agrees and does not really do much, but money is money.. Fast forward another year or so and S stops receiving money and after a few months of missed payments, calls the guy who explains that they need S to do another CD and then the payments can continue, but there is no more money unless she does more recordings..

    S agrees and records another CD worth of songs which is released several months later and does even better than the first CD. This same process is repeated (I am not going to tell you the number of CD’s because again you may be able to deduce and so I will just say the process repeated itself several times) Well everything goes well for the most part for all these years and then no more payments, and no more calls and she cannot even locate our mystery man..S has not received a payment in six months when she came into my office and related this story..She did not even know the guy’s name, but when she described him, I knew who he was and was even more floored than I had been previously..This was just something I had really not heard before..

    I had heard of really altering voices in the recording studios and bringing in hired hands for one song or a large portion of a song, but never CD after CD and even doing extra work so a live performance would not sound staged..I told her I needed some time to check into her story and then we could proceed..It took two calls before I got the guy on the phone and he was ******, scared, angry, threatening, remorseful..everythi ng..It turns out the reason he had stopped making payments was he had been playing some shell games with the money between the record company, MV’s earnings and MV’s investments and just did not have any additional money..In addition, MV was not sure she wanted to continue on with what had been happening and so our mystery guy might be completely out of the picture.. I actually think the record company to this day has no idea what went on as the Guy was very good at what he does/did and knew how to make sure the record company was always happy..He stayed under budget, toured, made MV available, and made the record company money..

    So a meeting was arranged in my office and S and MV finally met face to face..they had never done so, even though it was S who made MV a star..MV was rude to say the least when she saw what S looked like and it really upset me although S being her normal classy self could have cared less.. What we agreed to do that day was to provide S with one lump sum rather than a monthly income which was easier for Guy to pull off and S also agreed to never disclose her role in this drama and MV was on her own for future recordings and tours.. This involved literally millions of CD’s and hundreds of concerts all over the world..The one thing I did get out of this beside my fee of course is a Gold Record autographed by S and by MV..I know it is the only one in the world.. "

    Oh i know this one. It's actually by the original Enty, it's heaps old. I guess that means it ups it slightly in having some truth about it. Notice how well it's written compared to the crap today you have to wade through on CDAN.

    Supposed to be JLO or Brit-Brit.
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    pfgpowellpfgpowell Posts: 5,347
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    Mandark wrote: »
    Here we go, I found it and it's very, very long!!

    "Let me preface this post, by saying that if this story ever comes out, it would blow the music world up and shake it to its core..This would put the Milli Vanilli scandal and Ashlee Simpson SNL situation so far down the ladder it would be crazy.. Towards the end of last year I had a woman come into my office and she began to explain what she had done and had been doing for several years and it was one of the very few times that I just could not believe what I was hearing..I know the music industry inside and out, and I had never heard of something so extensive and pervasive as this..

    This woman (S) came into my office because the payments she had been receiving had stopped and she wanted to either get the money that was owed to her, or expose what she had been doing to the light of day.. S is a sessions/studio/backup singer and is very good..Prior to her involvement in what I am going to describe, she made a very good living singing on commercials and being a backup singer for groups and other solo acts, etc..

    Like I said she is very good, but she does not really have that “look” which would make her a star, so record companies did not put her out front, but just used her talents.. In late 2000, a man came to her one day and said he needed someone to record some demos because he had written a lot of songs, but wanted a demo to shop the songs to singers and record labels..This is not unusual at all and she had done this type of work before and it paid pretty well so she agreed.

    What was unusual about her recording of the demos was how much work was put into the actual recordings..It was extensive..Generally there is not much time put into the recordings because you never really know if the song will even sell, and the money spent on recording could be put to better uses..These demos she was recording were actually being treated as if they were going to be released on a CD or to radio..They even did some mixing which was REALLY unusual.. After a few weeks she had recorded about over a dozen songs and she went on her way and was really oblivious to anything else pertaining to it, UNTIL several months later she was in her car and heard her voice coming from the radio, only it was another singer being given credit..(We will call this other singer MV for Milli Vanilli) She could not believe what she was hearing and did not know whether to be excited to hear herself on the radio, confused about the credit given to another singer or just ****** off for the same reasons..

    What she did do, was to call the man who had originally come to her and had her record the songs..The man agreed to meet her and gave her a substantial sum of money and promised to keep giving her money every month as long as she kept her mouth shut. MV was taking off..(MV has/had several Top 40 songs and CD’s. They could have gone to #1 or languished in the 30’s..I really cannot go into much more detail or else it would be too easy to discover) MV was everywhere..on television, radio, awards shows,commercials..E VERYWHERE..meanwhile , S continued to get money every month and kept her little secret to herself..The guy who picked S was VERY lucky..

    Most singers would have caused a fuss, but S has always been in the background and was resigned to the fact she always would be, and was very happy just taking the $$, and did not want that to stop.. About 9 months go by and S is called by the guy because MV is going on tour and they want S to record some extra mixes and such for the tour..She agrees and does not really do much, but money is money.. Fast forward another year or so and S stops receiving money and after a few months of missed payments, calls the guy who explains that they need S to do another CD and then the payments can continue, but there is no more money unless she does more recordings..

    S agrees and records another CD worth of songs which is released several months later and does even better than the first CD. This same process is repeated (I am not going to tell you the number of CD’s because again you may be able to deduce and so I will just say the process repeated itself several times) Well everything goes well for the most part for all these years and then no more payments, and no more calls and she cannot even locate our mystery man..S has not received a payment in six months when she came into my office and related this story..She did not even know the guy’s name, but when she described him, I knew who he was and was even more floored than I had been previously..This was just something I had really not heard before..

    I had heard of really altering voices in the recording studios and bringing in hired hands for one song or a large portion of a song, but never CD after CD and even doing extra work so a live performance would not sound staged..I told her I needed some time to check into her story and then we could proceed..It took two calls before I got the guy on the phone and he was ******, scared, angry, threatening, remorseful..everythi ng..It turns out the reason he had stopped making payments was he had been playing some shell games with the money between the record company, MV’s earnings and MV’s investments and just did not have any additional money..In addition, MV was not sure she wanted to continue on with what had been happening and so our mystery guy might be completely out of the picture.. I actually think the record company to this day has no idea what went on as the Guy was very good at what he does/did and knew how to make sure the record company was always happy..He stayed under budget, toured, made MV available, and made the record company money..

    So a meeting was arranged in my office and S and MV finally met face to face..they had never done so, even though it was S who made MV a star..MV was rude to say the least when she saw what S looked like and it really upset me although S being her normal classy self could have cared less.. What we agreed to do that day was to provide S with one lump sum rather than a monthly income which was easier for Guy to pull off and S also agreed to never disclose her role in this drama and MV was on her own for future recordings and tours.. This involved literally millions of CD’s and hundreds of concerts all over the world..The one thing I did get out of this beside my fee of course is a Gold Record autographed by S and by MV..I know it is the only one in the world.. "

    This was a while ago? And is it known who MV was/is, or can you now tell us. Also whos is the songwriter/producer guy. Fascinating story. Any more info?
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    MandarkMandark Posts: 47,988
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    dee123 wrote: »
    Oh i know this one. It's actually by the original Enty, it's heaps old. I guess that means it ups it slightly in having some truth about it. Notice how well it's written compared to the crap today you have to wade through on CDAN.

    Supposed to be JLO or Brit-Brit.
    The revealed name is actually Opposites Attract. It's all over the Internet these days (found this copy on a black music site) and she must know about it. But celebs rarely take action on blinds as there's often an element of truth.

    Edit: Perhaps people may want to just quote my intro line? :D
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    MandarkMandark Posts: 47,988
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    pfgpowell wrote: »
    This was a while ago? And is it known who MV was/is, or can you now tell us. Also whos is the songwriter/producer guy. Fascinating story. Any more info?
    Enty only revealed the A lister who I've given clues to. A backing vocalist did sue this A lister in 1991 but lost. Unlikely Enty would be referring to her though as her case was public. Producer was anonymous but the one listed name associated with her first album that I recognised was a very well known American talent show judge. So...
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    amelia99amelia99 Posts: 5,646
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    Don't know if this had already been said but CDAN these days is total rubbish. Must of the blinds are made up by weird fans or ex fans with some sort of agenda or other. Long story but I know someone who deliberately PM'd something totally false to a Tumblr person she knew had a bizarre grudge against a particular actor. She did it to test whether the person would send it to CDAN as a blind and whether it would get published. She did and it did. So I now ignore anything that cites CDAN as the source of the story because it obviously just publishes any old crap with no verification process whatsoever.
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    dee123dee123 Posts: 46,311
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    Mandark wrote: »
    The revealed name is actually Opposites Attract. It's all over the Internet these days (found this copy on a black music site) and she must know about it. But celebs rarely take action on blinds as there's often an element of truth.

    Edit: Perhaps people may want to just quote my intro line? :D

    No it's not. The blind is 10 years old this year and will be revealed on Black Friday which is November the 25th in the US.

    http://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2015/12/annual-mv-clue-2.html
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    MandarkMandark Posts: 47,988
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    dee123 wrote: »
    No it's not. The blind is 10 years old this year and will be revealed on Black Friday which is November the 25th in the US.

    http://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2015/12/annual-mv-clue-2.html
    Ok I see that. But the blind has been posted with the reveal I stated. I wouldn't have known the name otherwise. We'll just have to see then.
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    ThornfieldThornfield Posts: 767
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    dee123 wrote: »
    No it's not. The blind is 10 years old this year and will be revealed on Black Friday which is November the 25th in the US.

    http://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2015/12/annual-mv-clue-2.html

    My money is the blind is talking about Brit Brit, like dee thinks. She was the star who instantly sprang to mind as the timeframe fits perfectly and much as I love her she is a performer, not a singer.
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