Looking at the data for other matches on S4C, it is almost certainly Malcom Allen as the co-comm and it is likely to either be Bryn Tomos or Mike Davies as the main commentator. Somebody should be able to identify who it is from the clip. Thanks.
Looking at the data for other matches on S4C, it is almost certainly Malcom Allen as the co-comm and it is likely to either be Bryn Tomos or Mike Davies as the main commentator. Somebody should be able to identify who it is from the clip. Thanks.
The Welsh commentators for Llandudno v The New Saints on S4C on 20/08/2016 were Nic Parry and Malcolm Allen. That is definitely those two commentating in that clip provided.
The Welsh commentators for Llandudno v The New Saints on S4C on 20/08/2016 were Nic Parry and Malcolm Allen. That is definitely those two commentating in that clip provided.
Marvellous. Thanks. Though of course the main comm had to be someone other than the two people I had deduced that it must have been.
George Riley presented alongside Alan Curbishley and David James, plus George Groves
Manchester United v Manchester City - Dave Farrar, with Guy Havord (as Sky Sports) conducting interviews West Ham United v Chelsea - Paul Walker Southampton v Sunderland - Nigel Adderley Liverpool v Tottenham Hotspur (Tuesday) - Rob Hawthorne and Niall Quinn, with Guy Havord conducting interviews (as Sky Sports) Arsenal v Reading (Tuesday) - Jon Champion Newcastle United v Preston North End (Tuesday) - Kevin Keatings Bristol City v Hull City & Leeds United v Norwich City (Tuesday) - Sue Thearle (reporting)
The Chelsea-supporting boxer George Groves joined George and the pundits in the studio only for the second segment of the programme to provide his analysis of their game at West Ham and to promote his next fight, which will be shown live on Channel 5 next month.
I've not watched this show yet (just skimmed through it on My5), so I'm not sure how good George Groves proved as a pundit (I'm sure his mere presence won't have been to everyone's tastes), but for me an obvious flaw of the programme is that of the 66 minutes outside of the commercials, around the first 45 minutes were devoted to Wednesday's matches. It doesn't help matters that those three games weren't the most action-packed by all accounts. That left just over 20 minutes or so for Tuesday's matches, 10 of which went to the live Sky Sports game. So you had action from the four non-televised games crammed into around 10 minutes, which isn't great when most/all of them were the subject of a full OB. I seem to remember last year's fourth round highlights show being more balanced, and the BBC ones certainly were, so this was a bit disappointing. Having two derbies involving fashionable Manchester and London clubs wouldn't have helped the structure of the show in this respect.
I've not watched this show yet (just skimmed through it on My5), so I'm not sure how good George Groves proved as a pundit (I'm sure his mere presence won't have been to everyone's tastes), but for me an obvious flaw of the programme is that of the 66 minutes outside of the commercials, around the first 45 minutes were devoted to Wednesday's matches.
Ah, it was alright. I didn't mind George Groves' presence, he wasn't on for very long and rather that than some more dull discussion for the sake of it. It's the kind of thing I thought they were going to do on Friday Night Football when they talked about having celebrity guests - I don't mind seeing people from other sports talk about football, it gives it a different perspective, like in the highlights show on the 2012 Olympics. He didn't offer much, to be honest, but it wasn't a complete write-off of an idea.
The only issue was that they had to discuss the crowd trouble at West Ham while he was there so it jarred a bit. Lovely bit at the end of the chat though, when George forgot he was on television and got a bit thrown when suggesting you could "hear" the fight on Channel Five.
I wasn't too bothered about Wednesday's matches taking priority, you'd have doubtless seen most of the goals by now, and the Manchester derby, dull match though it was, was a major story. The thing I was most pleased about was that it started at 10.30 because I had assumed, like the Beeb used to, they had to show the highlights after eleven. Seemingly not, and that was good because it meant it was finished by midnight. I really think when you go a minute past midnight it's too late.
Kilmarnock v Rangers - 26/08/2016 - BT Sport
======================================== Presented by: Darrell Currie Commentators: Derek Rae and Chris Sutton Reporter: Eilidh Barbour Guests: ??????????????????????????????????
Were there any guests for this one? I'm guessing that there would have been at least one.
Invariably there is at least one guest if there is a presenter, but who was it? Perhaps it might have been Chris Sutton before he wandered off to the commentary box? Or maybe Stephen Craigan? He doesn't seem to be absent from many Scottish games on BT...
Saw a few grumbles on Twitter about the C5 show and lack of action and time taken up with boxing, I didn't watch so could all be a bit harsh
I would say so, it was a perfectly acceptable highlights show of the old school. The Groves sequence lasted about two minutes if that, which would only otherwise have been filled with another montage or some dull chat with Alan Curbishley. There seemed to be a lot of adverts in it, but that can't be helped on that channel.
Another call for this one... just need the guest(s) and its done.
Invariably there is at least one guest if there is a presenter, but who was it? Perhaps it might have been Chris Sutton before he wandered off to the commentary box? Or maybe Stephen Craigan? He doesn't seem to be absent from many Scottish games on BT...
Stephen Craigan was there as a pundit for definite with a guest pundit. Don't think it was regular other pundit Michael Stewart. I've a feeling maybe Alex Rae was involved.
EDIT: I had it still on sky plus! It was Rae and Craigan. Sutton was around pre/post match too after his commentary stint.
Endless messages asking about games ages ago it seems
Please bear with it, there's only a handful of matches from this season that haven't been accounted for so I'm just looking to get it over the line. Covering old ground might not be your bag but there are plenty of others with an interest in this kind of thing and who are willing to help out. The whole point is to avoid making queries like this going forward anyway by keeping a log of details for each game as they happen. This doesn't stop you from discussing anything you want to discuss within this thread.
Stephen Craigan was there as a pundit for definite with a guest pundit. Don't think it was regular other pundit Michael Stewart. I've a feeling maybe Alex Rae was involved.
EDIT: I had it still on sky plus! It was Rae and Craigan. Sutton was around pre/post match too after his commentary stint.
Thanks for looking it up!
That's every BT Sport game from this season covered now. I think Derek Rae has commentated on every single match they've shown involving a Scottish club. And half of the time he's been paired with Chris Sutton... Poor bloke.
Pretty much all that remains now are a few S4C matches and a couple of Premier Sports games. Pre-season friendlies shown on Chelsea TV, MUTV and LFCTV will probably have to remain unsolved because a) only a select few would have watched these games in the first place and b) I would guess that nobody really cares about who covered these games anyway.
Ah, it was alright. I didn't mind George Groves' presence, he wasn't on for very long and rather that than some more dull discussion for the sake of it. It's the kind of thing I thought they were going to do on Friday Night Football when they talked about having celebrity guests - I don't mind seeing people from other sports talk about football, it gives it a different perspective, like in the highlights show on the 2012 Olympics. He didn't offer much, to be honest, but it wasn't a complete write-off of an idea.
The only issue was that they had to discuss the crowd trouble at West Ham while he was there so it jarred a bit. Lovely bit at the end of the chat though, when George forgot he was on television and got a bit thrown when suggesting you could "hear" the fight on Channel Five.
I wasn't too bothered about Wednesday's matches taking priority, you'd have doubtless seen most of the goals by now, and the Manchester derby, dull match though it was, was a major story. The thing I was most pleased about was that it started at 10.30 because I had assumed, like the Beeb used to, they had to show the highlights after eleven. Seemingly not, and that was good because it meant it was finished by midnight. I really think when you go a minute past midnight it's too late.
Here's a turn up for the books, me grumbling about Football on 5 and you sticking up for them. Nice turnaround from the usual discussions.
Having watching the programme now, I couldn't really fault much about George Groves' cameo. He was clearly primarily there to promote his upcoming fight on Channel 5 and spent a minute or two doing that - it didn't really get in the way or derail the show, and as a boxing fan who didn't know the fight was on, his segment did its job in alerting me (and hopefully others) to something I hope to watch. It jarred a bit (although some may have found it appropriate!) that there was violence at the game involving the team the boxer supports, but there's not much they could do about that. I liked George Riley's recovery after saying you could listen to the fight "...well you could, if you turned away from the screen and just listened to the sound." So yes, while I wouldn't have missed Groves had he not been there, I have no issue with his cameo.
As for the format, having watched the programme I've softened a bit. Had I watched the show live with the commercials, the time allocations wouldn't have stuck out as much - I imagine the sections on Tuesdays games ran to about 30-45 minutes of the 90 if you were to include the commercial breaks. I differ with you in that, not having access to Sky Sports or having checked the internet/news bulletins for them, I hadn't seen Tuesday's goals, but I get where you are coming from as I know most fans of the clubs involved will have and that shows like this are always going to start with the night's games some fans may have especially avoided the scores of. They couldn't help that the games they had set out the most time for proved to be quite dull, and it's not as if Southampton v Sunderland was particularly spectacular and had been majorly marginalised in favour of the other two. On paper the time allocation doesn't look good (it would have been nice to see a touch more of the Leeds v Norwich game, what with the penalties), but I didn't find the edits or punditry of the matches they majored on to drag on overly long.
As for the format, having watched the programme I've softened a bit. Had I watched the show live with the commercials, the time allocations wouldn't have stuck out as much - I imagine the sections on Tuesdays games ran to about 30-45 minutes of the 90 if you were to include the commercial breaks. I differ with you in that, not having access to Sky Sports or having checked the internet/news bulletins for them, I hadn't seen Tuesday's goals, but I get where you are coming from as I know most fans of the clubs involved will have and that shows like this are always going to start with the night's games some fans may have especially avoided the scores of.
Yeah, they could hardly have dropped the Manchester derby down the running order because it was a major story. It certainly got a shorter edit than West Ham vs Chelsea, though. It reminded me a bit of a midweek MOTD a few seasons ago when Man City vs Arsenal had been that night, which was a top of the table clash, but it was a bloody awful 0-0, so it was first on, but had I think the shortest edit of the entire show.
I think by that point Tuesday's action is old news, really, as you say it's unlikely anyone would have avoided the results, unlike Wednesday's, so it's basically an opportunity to see the goals and anything especially interesting.
As I mentioned, I enjoyed the fact it started at 10.30 and was over by midnight. I really think it's vitally important for this competition that the highlights are on at a decent time, especially when they're on a smaller channel. Demanding they only go on after eleven so Sky can dominate does nothing to improve public interest in proceedings. And as I say, it meant I could stay up and watch it despite it being a work night. I always think if a highlights show goes past midnight, it's too late - even if it's just a few minutes past, it feels like it is, so I usually end up recording it and then never having time to watch it until a few days later, by which point the moment has passed. I know that makes me sound like an old man, but I am one.
Cork City v Dundalk- Peter Collins presents. With analysis from Alan Cawley, Stuart Byrne, Richie Sadlier and Trevor Croly, and commentary by George Hamilton and Brian Kerr.
Friday 11 November on ITV
England v Scotland- Mark Pougatch presents. Mark is joined in the studio by Ryan Giggs, Lee Dixon, Ian Wright and Ally McCoist, with commentary from Clive Tyldesley and Glenn Hoddle, and Gabriel Clarke pitchside.
Man Utd v Burnley- Jonathan Pearce for MotD
Spurs v Leicester- John Motson for MotD
Watford v Hull- John Roder for MotD
WBA v Man City- Guy Mowbray for MotD
Everton v West Ham- Ian Dennis for MotD2
DC United v Montreal Impact - Dan Roebuck (didn't catch who the co-comentator was) Seattle Sounders v Sporting Kansas City - Richard Kaufman and Matt Lawrence
Brighton v Norwich- Paul Walker for the world feed
Boro v Bournemouth- Conor McNamara for MotD
Palace v Liverpool- Simon Brotherton for MotD
Soton v Chelsea- Steve Wilson for MotD2
To compile all the details into one place BBC Match of the Day - Saturday 29th October
Sunderland v Arsenal - Steve Bower
Man United v Burnley - Jonathan Pearce
Middlesbrough v Bournemouth - Conor McNamara
Tottenham v Leicester - John Motson
Watford v Hull City - John Roder
West Brom v Man City - Guy Mowbray
Crystal Palace v Liverpool - Simon Brotherton
BBC Match of the Day 2 - Sunday 30th October
Everton v West Ham - Ian Dennis
Southampton v Chelsea - Steve Wilson
Comments
West Ham United v Chelsea - Paul Walker
Southampton v Sunderland - John Roder
Manchester United v Manchester City - Jon Champion
Comms for all of the games I linked to are now in the hub. Thanks to those who added the details.
That is, apart from this one - for which I'm still looking for the Welsh commentators:
Llandudno v The New Saints - Sat, 20 Aug 2016 [S4C]
http://www.s4c.cymru/sgorio/e_/gem/llandudno-seintiau-newydd-3/
Looking at the data for other matches on S4C, it is almost certainly Malcom Allen as the co-comm and it is likely to either be Bryn Tomos or Mike Davies as the main commentator. Somebody should be able to identify who it is from the clip. Thanks.
Correction to the main Welsh commentator for the above game. Bryn Tomos has done the last 2 weeks' matches on S4C.
The Welsh commentators for Llandudno v The New Saints on S4C on 20/08/2016 were Nic Parry and Malcolm Allen. That is definitely those two commentating in that clip provided.
Sky Sports 2 - Phil Blacker and Gary Breen
This game will be live on Sky Sports 2 at 3:35am UK time.
No problem! Will help with posting details of S4C matches as and when, unless someone else kindly does so.
BT Sport 3 (Delayed Coverage) - Armel Tanguy
Football on 5: The EFL Cup
George Riley presented alongside Alan Curbishley and David James, plus George Groves
Manchester United v Manchester City - Dave Farrar, with Guy Havord (as Sky Sports) conducting interviews
West Ham United v Chelsea - Paul Walker
Southampton v Sunderland - Nigel Adderley
Liverpool v Tottenham Hotspur (Tuesday) - Rob Hawthorne and Niall Quinn, with Guy Havord conducting interviews (as Sky Sports)
Arsenal v Reading (Tuesday) - Jon Champion
Newcastle United v Preston North End (Tuesday) - Kevin Keatings
Bristol City v Hull City & Leeds United v Norwich City (Tuesday) - Sue Thearle (reporting)
The Chelsea-supporting boxer George Groves joined George and the pundits in the studio only for the second segment of the programme to provide his analysis of their game at West Ham and to promote his next fight, which will be shown live on Channel 5 next month.
I've not watched this show yet (just skimmed through it on My5), so I'm not sure how good George Groves proved as a pundit (I'm sure his mere presence won't have been to everyone's tastes), but for me an obvious flaw of the programme is that of the 66 minutes outside of the commercials, around the first 45 minutes were devoted to Wednesday's matches. It doesn't help matters that those three games weren't the most action-packed by all accounts. That left just over 20 minutes or so for Tuesday's matches, 10 of which went to the live Sky Sports game. So you had action from the four non-televised games crammed into around 10 minutes, which isn't great when most/all of them were the subject of a full OB. I seem to remember last year's fourth round highlights show being more balanced, and the BBC ones certainly were, so this was a bit disappointing. Having two derbies involving fashionable Manchester and London clubs wouldn't have helped the structure of the show in this respect.
Ah, it was alright. I didn't mind George Groves' presence, he wasn't on for very long and rather that than some more dull discussion for the sake of it. It's the kind of thing I thought they were going to do on Friday Night Football when they talked about having celebrity guests - I don't mind seeing people from other sports talk about football, it gives it a different perspective, like in the highlights show on the 2012 Olympics. He didn't offer much, to be honest, but it wasn't a complete write-off of an idea.
The only issue was that they had to discuss the crowd trouble at West Ham while he was there so it jarred a bit. Lovely bit at the end of the chat though, when George forgot he was on television and got a bit thrown when suggesting you could "hear" the fight on Channel Five.
I wasn't too bothered about Wednesday's matches taking priority, you'd have doubtless seen most of the goals by now, and the Manchester derby, dull match though it was, was a major story. The thing I was most pleased about was that it started at 10.30 because I had assumed, like the Beeb used to, they had to show the highlights after eleven. Seemingly not, and that was good because it meant it was finished by midnight. I really think when you go a minute past midnight it's too late.
This week's 'Footy on TV' column in Football365 will focus on people's favourite commentators.
Bayern v Augsburg- Dan O'Hagan
Changchun Yatai v Shanghai Shenhua- Dan O'Hagan
Invariably there is at least one guest if there is a presenter, but who was it? Perhaps it might have been Chris Sutton before he wandered off to the commentary box? Or maybe Stephen Craigan? He doesn't seem to be absent from many Scottish games on BT...
Strong lineup on the EFL games, seems a shame that the capable Mann/Leslie couldn't pick these games up.
Saw a few grumbles on Twitter about the C5 show and lack of action and time taken up with boxing, I didn't watch so could all be a bit harsh
I would say so, it was a perfectly acceptable highlights show of the old school. The Groves sequence lasted about two minutes if that, which would only otherwise have been filled with another montage or some dull chat with Alan Curbishley. There seemed to be a lot of adverts in it, but that can't be helped on that channel.
Stephen Craigan was there as a pundit for definite with a guest pundit. Don't think it was regular other pundit Michael Stewart. I've a feeling maybe Alex Rae was involved.
EDIT: I had it still on sky plus! It was Rae and Craigan. Sutton was around pre/post match too after his commentary stint.
Thanks for looking it up!
That's every BT Sport game from this season covered now. I think Derek Rae has commentated on every single match they've shown involving a Scottish club. And half of the time he's been paired with Chris Sutton... Poor bloke.
Pretty much all that remains now are a few S4C matches and a couple of Premier Sports games. Pre-season friendlies shown on Chelsea TV, MUTV and LFCTV will probably have to remain unsolved because a) only a select few would have watched these games in the first place and b) I would guess that nobody really cares about who covered these games anyway.
Here's a turn up for the books, me grumbling about Football on 5 and you sticking up for them. Nice turnaround from the usual discussions.
Having watching the programme now, I couldn't really fault much about George Groves' cameo. He was clearly primarily there to promote his upcoming fight on Channel 5 and spent a minute or two doing that - it didn't really get in the way or derail the show, and as a boxing fan who didn't know the fight was on, his segment did its job in alerting me (and hopefully others) to something I hope to watch. It jarred a bit (although some may have found it appropriate!) that there was violence at the game involving the team the boxer supports, but there's not much they could do about that. I liked George Riley's recovery after saying you could listen to the fight "...well you could, if you turned away from the screen and just listened to the sound." So yes, while I wouldn't have missed Groves had he not been there, I have no issue with his cameo.
As for the format, having watched the programme I've softened a bit. Had I watched the show live with the commercials, the time allocations wouldn't have stuck out as much - I imagine the sections on Tuesdays games ran to about 30-45 minutes of the 90 if you were to include the commercial breaks. I differ with you in that, not having access to Sky Sports or having checked the internet/news bulletins for them, I hadn't seen Tuesday's goals, but I get where you are coming from as I know most fans of the clubs involved will have and that shows like this are always going to start with the night's games some fans may have especially avoided the scores of. They couldn't help that the games they had set out the most time for proved to be quite dull, and it's not as if Southampton v Sunderland was particularly spectacular and had been majorly marginalised in favour of the other two. On paper the time allocation doesn't look good (it would have been nice to see a touch more of the Leeds v Norwich game, what with the penalties), but I didn't find the edits or punditry of the matches they majored on to drag on overly long.
Yeah, they could hardly have dropped the Manchester derby down the running order because it was a major story. It certainly got a shorter edit than West Ham vs Chelsea, though. It reminded me a bit of a midweek MOTD a few seasons ago when Man City vs Arsenal had been that night, which was a top of the table clash, but it was a bloody awful 0-0, so it was first on, but had I think the shortest edit of the entire show.
I think by that point Tuesday's action is old news, really, as you say it's unlikely anyone would have avoided the results, unlike Wednesday's, so it's basically an opportunity to see the goals and anything especially interesting.
As I mentioned, I enjoyed the fact it started at 10.30 and was over by midnight. I really think it's vitally important for this competition that the highlights are on at a decent time, especially when they're on a smaller channel. Demanding they only go on after eleven so Sky can dominate does nothing to improve public interest in proceedings. And as I say, it meant I could stay up and watch it despite it being a work night. I always think if a highlights show goes past midnight, it's too late - even if it's just a few minutes past, it feels like it is, so I usually end up recording it and then never having time to watch it until a few days later, by which point the moment has passed. I know that makes me sound like an old man, but I am one.
Cork City v Dundalk- Peter Collins presents. With analysis from Alan Cawley, Stuart Byrne, Richie Sadlier and Trevor Croly, and commentary by George Hamilton and Brian Kerr.
Friday 11 November on ITV
England v Scotland- Mark Pougatch presents. Mark is joined in the studio by Ryan Giggs, Lee Dixon, Ian Wright and Ally McCoist, with commentary from Clive Tyldesley and Glenn Hoddle, and Gabriel Clarke pitchside.
Rangers v Kimarnock- Tom Miller, Jonatan Johannson and Marco Negri for RangersTV
Spurs v Leicester- John Motson for MotD
Watford v Hull- John Roder for MotD
WBA v Man City- Guy Mowbray for MotD
Everton v West Ham- Ian Dennis for MotD2
MLS Play-Offs (Sky Sports 3):
DC United v Montreal Impact - Dan Roebuck (didn't catch who the co-comentator was)
Seattle Sounders v Sporting Kansas City - Richard Kaufman and Matt Lawrence
Boro v Bournemouth- Conor McNamara for MotD
Palace v Liverpool- Simon Brotherton for MotD
Soton v Chelsea- Steve Wilson for MotD2
John Nicholson article on football commentators
http://www.football365.com/news/football-people-on-tv-the-commentators
In other news, Alistair Mann had his photo taken with Alan Partridge today.
BBC Match of the Day - Saturday 29th October
Sunderland v Arsenal - Steve Bower
Man United v Burnley - Jonathan Pearce
Middlesbrough v Bournemouth - Conor McNamara
Tottenham v Leicester - John Motson
Watford v Hull City - John Roder
West Brom v Man City - Guy Mowbray
Crystal Palace v Liverpool - Simon Brotherton
BBC Match of the Day 2 - Sunday 30th October
Everton v West Ham - Ian Dennis
Southampton v Chelsea - Steve Wilson