The fraudsters, tax evaders,expenses fiddlers ,corrupt bankers, politicians,and dodgy policemen, are all way to busy to be out clambering through skylights and nicking cars, they have their grass to mow and cars to wash,so need early nights.
1: Yes I did join this month. What's the problem?
2: What's wrong with starting new threads. Do you have to be part of some clique to be able to start threads?
3: I am 22 and not in school or college.
I'm just posting what I couldn't post when I wasn't a member.
And you're definitely not a WUM with your thread titles? ;-)
I live on a council estate. Most people within a few doors of me are ok, but 3/4 of the residents look dodgy and have feral children.
Posh people commit crime as well, just on a grander scale.
I live on a council estate. Most people within a few doors of me are ok, but 3/4 of the residents look dodgy and have feral children.
Posh people commit crime as well, just on a grander scale.
I know posh people commit crimes too.
What I'm trying to say is that I think the surroundings contribute to committing a crime. If you lived in the middle of the countryside and you were the only house for 20 miles then you're less likely to commit a crime.
It only takes one or two problem families to drag an estate down in my experience. Unfortunately these families have children with zero discipline and they grow up to be as bad as their parents.
There is a standing joke around here that santa won't visit one of the local council estates. The last time he did, he was stoned by the local yobs.
What I'm trying to say is that I think the surroundings contribute to committing a crime. If you lived in the middle of the countryside and you were the only house for 20 miles then you're less likely to commit a crime.
So how does that make it right you open a thread with an inflamatory title? You're really looking to get people's backs up that's my impression.
What I'm trying to say is that I think the surroundings contribute to committing a crime. If you lived in the middle of the countryside and you were the only house for 20 miles then you're less likely to commit a crime.
What I'm trying to say is that I think the surroundings contribute to committing a crime. If you lived in the middle of the countryside and you were the only house for 20 miles then you're less likely to commit a crime.
If you live in the middle of the countryside then there are less people about so its bound to be lower statistically.
More likely to be a victim of crime if more isolated ?
Were I live, in regards youth crime and asbo type behaviour the posher areas have seen an increase.
There are more ignorant teens about. Someone who lives on a council estate that is rough possibly lives there because a lot of the rough are lumped together.
I think there is a general decline all over. Although the crime seems to have shifted from burglary to muggings for mobiles etc.
I think stereotyping and generalisation are the problem, not trolling.
I tend to think its not just a council estate problem, but each town and city have their pockets of scum.
Most don't live in the more expensive houses though.
How am I trolling? What's wrong with creating a discussion. It is a forum after all>:(>:(
Someone wanting to create a genuine discussion would put the word 'are' at the start of your thread title, with a question mark at the end. You have chosen to make a bold statement instead then wonder why you're being accused of trolling?
Yes I've started a few threads but how are they trolling.
In GD there's
Britain First: an excuse to be a bigot - I was just stating the fact that people are being racist.
Kickstarter - I was wondering what you can do on Kickstarter
Faux Grief Bandwagon - I feel uncomfortable with public displays of fake grief
C Word - I wanted to see if people were offended or not
Dead Forums - How many dead forums there are
B&M - My love for discount stores
Life In Newcastle - Because I've never been before.
As far as I can see I'm not doing any harm. I'm not going around attacking other users am I.
I've just been thinking that people from Council Estates are 100x more likely to commit a crime than someone from a nice Cul-de-Sac as they have been brought up surrounded by other people who commit crimes and their parents haven't done a good enough job a bringing the them up. Just look at your nearest Council Estate and look at where you live and compare you the two.
My nearest Council Estate is a place called Caia Park (Formerly Queen's Park) and it's always been known for being a rough place, there are daily reports of crime such as burglary, arson, rape, murder, violence and more. 75% of people from are rough as hell and most of the parents don't care about their kids and only have them so they can claim more money.
I live in a village, the crime rates are really low and you only hear of something happening about twice a year. There's a few rough people who I know originally came from Council Estates and they've committed crimes before. Parents here are very supportive of not just their own kids but others too.
So does anyone agree that crime is more likely when you come from a Council Estate and you haven't had enough love/support from family?
You could live on the worst estate in the world and have good or bad parents and be a nice person and have a good crime free life , you could live with again good or bad parents on a country estate and turn out to be drug dealing scum. Its not all about parents and where you live though of course sometimes it can be things such as gangs can pressure people into crime.
Yes some kids learn bad behaviour and decide to follow it , though once old enough you can if you wish choose not to follow a bad example
My Nan and Granddad lived on a council estate , my Mum was born and lived there, my grandparents chose to buy their house instead of move somewhere else as they liked it and their neighbours and whilst I have never lived in a council house I loved spending time with my grandparents and staying at their house and I had good friends who lived on that estate and in general it was a nice place and no different to any other.
I do see there is a problem on some estates, but I often do wonder if that is sometimes down to too many problem families being dumped on one estate deliberately , whereas if you have problem families why not spread them out you might not have such a big problem.
A big problem we have these days is a lack of respect and too many have an " I want it and I want it now" attitude. I put a lot of that down to the last government and the pandering to people and lack of discipline in schools , schools used to be able to instil some order into kids lives so at least if you had a bad family you got a decent meal and order in the school hours , the last government had it so teachers had to ask parents bloody permission to give detention.
When it comes to kids this about sums it up for me
Yes I've started a few threads but how are they trolling.
In GD there's
Britain First: an excuse to be a bigot - I was just stating the fact that people are being racist.
Kickstarter - I was wondering what you can do on Kickstarter
Faux Grief Bandwagon - I feel uncomfortable with public displays of fake grief
C Word - I wanted to see if people were offended or not
Dead Forums - How many dead forums there are
B&M - My love for discount stores
Life In Newcastle - Because I've never been before.
As far as I can see I'm not doing any harm. I'm not going around attacking other users am I.
It's like a Trolling master-class
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Jordan, why do people love her??
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Yep! Not everyone from a council estate are criminals. Just like not everyone in a cul de sac will be innocent by default
I live in a road where there's been a druggie (I believe he's back in prison), an arson attack by the woods and burglaries and it's a quiet road. Might even be more than that! Most houses either have families or elderly people living in them.
Most of the time on the Estates you'll get a few or more families who 'run' it as Alan said. I've not lived on one for years but when I ask people about my old one they'll never mention specific crimes but list the names of rough families. The inner city blocks of flats are as bad or worse for drugs and crime than estates IMHO.
A large council estate is densely populated. Lots of people living close together - if jut 5% of the 'estate population' commit criminal acts that's a largish number of people and the estate is gonna get a bad name/reputation.
You'll get teenage youths/gangs hanging out in nice villages - they're often doing no harm - literally just hanging out. The same thing happens on council estates - they can be a harmless bunch of kids hanging out but because they're gathered together on a 'notorious' estate they're seen as threatening and deemed to have criminal intent.
I'm sure there is the opportunity to get up to far more 'bad stuff' and criminal behaviour on a council estate but the majority of kids come through it OK.
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If you look at crime statics, crime does appear to be far more wide spread in council estates.
You can prove anything with facts:D
And you're definitely not a WUM with your thread titles? ;-)
Posh people commit crime as well, just on a grander scale.
I know posh people commit crimes too.
What I'm trying to say is that I think the surroundings contribute to committing a crime. If you lived in the middle of the countryside and you were the only house for 20 miles then you're less likely to commit a crime.
There is a standing joke around here that santa won't visit one of the local council estates. The last time he did, he was stoned by the local yobs.
So how does that make it right you open a thread with an inflamatory title? You're really looking to get people's backs up that's my impression.
No shit Sherlock.
If you live in the middle of the countryside then there are less people about so its bound to be lower statistically.
More likely to be a victim of crime if more isolated ?
Were I live, in regards youth crime and asbo type behaviour the posher areas have seen an increase.
There are more ignorant teens about. Someone who lives on a council estate that is rough possibly lives there because a lot of the rough are lumped together.
I think there is a general decline all over. Although the crime seems to have shifted from burglary to muggings for mobiles etc.
No and your trolling of this forum is getting tiresome to say the least.
Oh OK, let's ban opinions. CitySlicker doesn't like other users having them unless they've been here for 13 years.
How am I trolling? What's wrong with creating a discussion. It is a forum after all>:(>:(
I tend to think its not just a council estate problem, but each town and city have their pockets of scum.
Most don't live in the more expensive houses though.
Someone wanting to create a genuine discussion would put the word 'are' at the start of your thread title, with a question mark at the end. You have chosen to make a bold statement instead then wonder why you're being accused of trolling?
In GD there's
Britain First: an excuse to be a bigot - I was just stating the fact that people are being racist.
Kickstarter - I was wondering what you can do on Kickstarter
Faux Grief Bandwagon - I feel uncomfortable with public displays of fake grief
C Word - I wanted to see if people were offended or not
Dead Forums - How many dead forums there are
B&M - My love for discount stores
Life In Newcastle - Because I've never been before.
As far as I can see I'm not doing any harm. I'm not going around attacking other users am I.
You could live on the worst estate in the world and have good or bad parents and be a nice person and have a good crime free life , you could live with again good or bad parents on a country estate and turn out to be drug dealing scum. Its not all about parents and where you live though of course sometimes it can be things such as gangs can pressure people into crime.
Yes some kids learn bad behaviour and decide to follow it , though once old enough you can if you wish choose not to follow a bad example
My Nan and Granddad lived on a council estate , my Mum was born and lived there, my grandparents chose to buy their house instead of move somewhere else as they liked it and their neighbours and whilst I have never lived in a council house I loved spending time with my grandparents and staying at their house and I had good friends who lived on that estate and in general it was a nice place and no different to any other.
I do see there is a problem on some estates, but I often do wonder if that is sometimes down to too many problem families being dumped on one estate deliberately , whereas if you have problem families why not spread them out you might not have such a big problem.
A big problem we have these days is a lack of respect and too many have an " I want it and I want it now" attitude. I put a lot of that down to the last government and the pandering to people and lack of discipline in schools , schools used to be able to instil some order into kids lives so at least if you had a bad family you got a decent meal and order in the school hours , the last government had it so teachers had to ask parents bloody permission to give detention.
When it comes to kids this about sums it up for me
http://www.pinterest.com/pin/213076626090271869/
It's like a Trolling master-class
You missed...
Jordan, why do people love her??
Is Lily Allen too fat??
Would you sleep with Nigel Farage?
Should they scrap the TV license?
Actually I should shut up
I've never started those threads. Although the Farage one would go down well Showbiz.
I live in a road where there's been a druggie (I believe he's back in prison), an arson attack by the woods and burglaries and it's a quiet road. Might even be more than that! Most houses either have families or elderly people living in them.
But there's daily reports of arson, rape, murder according to the OP.
Rape and murder happening daily?? what a load of cobblers but hey say anything to demonise people living on a council estate.
Daily reports maybe, rather than daily murders. I think it's called a newspaper
Two murders that I'm aware of since moving in about seven or eight years ago
Our estate ain't like all those typical estates though, it's quite nice as it happens
You'll get teenage youths/gangs hanging out in nice villages - they're often doing no harm - literally just hanging out. The same thing happens on council estates - they can be a harmless bunch of kids hanging out but because they're gathered together on a 'notorious' estate they're seen as threatening and deemed to have criminal intent.
I'm sure there is the opportunity to get up to far more 'bad stuff' and criminal behaviour on a council estate but the majority of kids come through it OK.