Doesn't really change anything that most people already know. Even in Catholic High School, 30 years ago, we were taught that Creationism is scientifically unsound and the Bible is largely metaphor.
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Nobody had even heard of Creationism when I was forced to go to Sunday school and Darwin never got a mention. Him and jesus used to live happily side by side
.....it's just another sh*te fundamentalist American import that we should just ignore and not give any credence to.
Hmm, I've never seen that site before. It's kinda interesting perhaps to some but also seems rather far fetched IMO.
But some say there was a more advanced civilisation on Earth about 100 thousand years ago but the advancement was lost through selfishness. It's such a long time ago I read about it that I don't remember all the details. ;-)
The Bible is a library of all kinds of books. It includes, for example, law books, genealogical tables, poetry, philosophy, collections of wise sayings etc. None of these lend themselves very well to the description 'fiction'.
Re. Genesis Ch 1 and the creation myth, it seems a bit shallow to say it is 'wrong'. Writings are not divided into 'science' and 'wrong'. It is actually a glorious piece of writing, and surprisingly good at getting the general pattern of the development of life on earth into a rational order. Personally I think the Bible goes sharply downhill after Genesis 1, for quite a time, as other writers with a less magnificent style butt in with their less impressive stories.
Nearly all cultures have a creatiion myth. There is something moving about the ancient stories that have been handed down from generation to generation since long before the written word. The Jewish one that we have inherited is nice and simple.
That's one of the sillier things that the Bible propounds. A bit like this "created man in his own image" shtick.
F'rinstance..... If God is perfect and created man in his own image, then he must have all the same bodily features as any human being and being perfect, humankind must be the ultimate design for a living entity.
But when man wanted to create a means of travelling long distances quickly and with minimum effort, he invented the wheel, which looks nothing like a leg.
This is the sort of thing that makes the Bible absurd and non-believable.
What if humanity as a whole is God and therefore, God did make the Earth as it's all down to us? That would also account for "In God's own image"
The Bible is a library of all kinds of books. It includes, for example, law books, genealogical tables, poetry, philosophy, collections of wise sayings etc. None of these lend themselves very well to the description 'fiction'.
Re. Genesis Ch 1 and the creation myth, it seems a bit shallow to say it is 'wrong'. Writings are not divided into 'science' and 'wrong'. It is actually a glorious piece of writing, and surprisingly good at getting the general pattern of the development of life on earth into a rational order. Personally I think the Bible goes sharply downhill after Genesis 1, for quite a time, as other writers with a less magnificent style butt in with their less impressive stories.
Nearly all cultures have a creatiion myth. There is something moving about the ancient stories that have been handed down from generation to generation since long before the written word. The Jewish one that we have inherited is nice and simple.
I think I would describe some of Genesis as glorious writing. As a creation myth it basically scales down the real awesomeness of the origins of the Universe to proportions that uneducated humans could cope with.
If parts of it are 'glorious' they are no where near as glorious as the reality.
Not into the bible / church thing on any level under any guise of whatever name people want to label themselves as, however i am spiritual and belive in there being more and the goodness of humanity is within us all and how you behave treat people is what counts just the effort to try and do the right if decent thing is what counts.
So for me the bible is interesting but not the be all and end all come to that any other religious spouting so which are equally as contradictory
Not into the bible / church thing on any level under any guise of whatever name people want to label themselves as, however i am spiritual and belive in there being more and the goodness of humanity is within us all and how you behave treat people is what counts just the effort to try and do the right if decent thing is what counts.
So for me the bible is interesting but not the be all and end all come to that any other religious spouting so which are equally as contradictory
Dyslexic i struggle to get it down here sorry
I agree. No book is the be all and end all of everything or anything.
But when man wanted to create a means of travelling long distances quickly and with minimum effort, he invented the wheel, which looks nothing like a leg.
Wheels are useless without nice flat roads. They are also tricky on inclines as they tend to run away downhill unless you also invent disk-brakes at the same time.
Legs are far more versatile. (And eliminate those tricky bio-engineering problems you'd have with freely rotating wheels.) BTW when we want to travel long distances quickly, we fly...
Which explains about 0.01% of it (more like 0.0001% IMO). Sure, once you already have a species, with everthing necessary for life and the means of propagating that species already in place, then evolution can come into play. But the hard work has already been done!
You might want to read up on the basic formation of life, judging by that reply.
I do not have a problem that under certain conditions molecules/atoms can combine into proteins and amino acids that make the basis of simple life. And so it goes on.
Wheels are useless without nice flat roads. They are also tricky on inclines as they tend to run away downhill unless you also invent disk-brakes at the same time.
Legs are far more versatile. (And eliminate those tricky bio-engineering problems you'd have with freely rotating wheels.) BTW when we want to travel long distances quickly, we fly...
I think I would describe some of Genesis as glorious writing. As a creation myth it basically scales down the real awesomeness of the origins of the Universe to proportions that uneducated humans could cope with.
If parts of it are 'glorious' they are no where near as glorious as the reality.
I singled out Genesis Ch 1, not the whole book. Chapter 1 is a kind of mystical poem and very beautiful. After that we get some pretty prosaic stuff, including what you might call adult themes of a rather yukky nature. But I agree, on the whole. The universe is bigger and stranger than people could possibly have imagined back then.
I singled out Genesis Ch 1, not the whole book. Chapter 1 is a kind of mystical poem and very beautiful. After that we get some pretty prosaic stuff, including what you might call adult themes of a rather yukky nature. But I agree, on the whole. The universe is bigger and stranger than people could possibly have imagined back then.
The Bible is a library of all kinds of books. It includes, for example, law books, genealogical tables, poetry, philosophy, collections of wise sayings etc. None of these lend themselves very well to the description 'fiction'.
Correct but I would have to say that the genealogical tables are a bit suspect.
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Nobody had even heard of Creationism when I was forced to go to Sunday school and Darwin never got a mention. Him and jesus used to live happily side by side
.....it's just another sh*te fundamentalist American import that we should just ignore and not give any credence to.
Hmm, I've never seen that site before. It's kinda interesting perhaps to some but also seems rather far fetched IMO.
But some say there was a more advanced civilisation on Earth about 100 thousand years ago but the advancement was lost through selfishness. It's such a long time ago I read about it that I don't remember all the details. ;-)
The Bible is a library of all kinds of books. It includes, for example, law books, genealogical tables, poetry, philosophy, collections of wise sayings etc. None of these lend themselves very well to the description 'fiction'.
Re. Genesis Ch 1 and the creation myth, it seems a bit shallow to say it is 'wrong'. Writings are not divided into 'science' and 'wrong'. It is actually a glorious piece of writing, and surprisingly good at getting the general pattern of the development of life on earth into a rational order. Personally I think the Bible goes sharply downhill after Genesis 1, for quite a time, as other writers with a less magnificent style butt in with their less impressive stories.
Nearly all cultures have a creatiion myth. There is something moving about the ancient stories that have been handed down from generation to generation since long before the written word. The Jewish one that we have inherited is nice and simple.
What if humanity as a whole is God and therefore, God did make the Earth as it's all down to us? That would also account for "In God's own image"
This is where it come from and it requires quite a few assumptions.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ussher_chronology
I think I would describe some of Genesis as glorious writing. As a creation myth it basically scales down the real awesomeness of the origins of the Universe to proportions that uneducated humans could cope with.
If parts of it are 'glorious' they are no where near as glorious as the reality.
So for me the bible is interesting but not the be all and end all come to that any other religious spouting so which are equally as contradictory
Dyslexic i struggle to get it down here sorry
I agree. No book is the be all and end all of everything or anything.
Wheels are useless without nice flat roads. They are also tricky on inclines as they tend to run away downhill unless you also invent disk-brakes at the same time.
Legs are far more versatile. (And eliminate those tricky bio-engineering problems you'd have with freely rotating wheels.) BTW when we want to travel long distances quickly, we fly...
You might want to read up on the basic formation of life, judging by that reply.
I do not have a problem that under certain conditions molecules/atoms can combine into proteins and amino acids that make the basis of simple life. And so it goes on.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenesis
its about time Carl Sagan explained why he disrespected Immanual Velikovsky.
The truth is out there. Sagan will become an irrelevant luddite footnote in due course.
There could be a slight problem there.
Am I really reading this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow_tire
Why not it was a coherent and well reasoned post that demonstrated an understanding of biological evolution.
I singled out Genesis Ch 1, not the whole book. Chapter 1 is a kind of mystical poem and very beautiful. After that we get some pretty prosaic stuff, including what you might call adult themes of a rather yukky nature. But I agree, on the whole. The universe is bigger and stranger than people could possibly have imagined back then.
Yukky? Is there a bit of arse action in there?
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Correct but I would have to say that the genealogical tables are a bit suspect.
Wake up at the back!!!!!