I watched the highlights and he said that as a neutral he wanted Arsenal to score from a move, and he said the red card was the right decision. Not sure how that is anti Arsenal.
I didn't see any of Sky's live coverage last night, but as an LFC supporter I assume that I would have thought of Andy Gray and Alan Parry as very anti-Liverpool from about 56 minutes onwards
In the same manner, forum reguar 'Homesdale' has seemingly taken a dislike to almost every commentator punished with working on a West Ham game in the last 18 months
I didn't see any of Sky's live coverage last night, but I assume that I would have thought of Andy Gray and Martin Tyler as very anti-Liverpool from about 56 minutes onwards
They did, right at the very start. But it was done "artistically", with the goals commentated as-live, but from a multitude of different camera angles.
Ah, sorry. I turned it on right at the start of the Wigan v Arsenal game and assumed I'd missed nothing significant.
Same here - I was watching Phil Taylor v Peter Wright in the darts so only turned MOTD on at around 11pm (I felt quite smug when I found out the only edit I'd missed was the one Steve Wilson had commentated on).
I take it that Jonathan Pearce did the as-live commentary seeing as he was there for the Beeb to do the interviews. Am I right Mark?
Same here - I was watching Phil Taylor v Peter Wright in the darts so only turned on at 11pm (I felt quite smug when I found out the only edit I'd missed was the one Steve Wilson had commentated on).
I take it that Jonathan Pearce did the as-live commentary seeing as he was there for the Beeb to do the interviews. Am I right Mark?
Thank you, and just to add I hope all readers of and contributors to the Football Commentators (and Sports Commentators) thread(s) have a fantastic New Year. I hope 2011 brings you everything you seek.
So nobody heard Gary refer to "a major power failure" at the start of MOTD and express his hope that they'd be able to show all of the goals but couldn't promise anything? I dunno if that was why Liverpool vs Wolves had such a short edit but having watched the whole of that game, if anything I reckon it was too long. Anyway, if he'd not said it I doubt anyone would have noticed.
I didn't watch MOTD, but had the BBC Sport live text updates open during last night, and the guy on there said they'd had a major power failure at Television Centre, and all the monitors showing the games had gone off.
Thank you, and just to add I hope all readers of and contributors to the Football Commentators (and Sports Commentators) thread(s) have a fantastic New Year. I hope 2011 brings you everything you seek.
Happy New Year to everyone on the thread and especially to my two favourite posters The Difference (hopefully lots of Bundesliga commentator chat in 2011) and wal28 who watches more football games than we have rainy days in Norn Iron!
So nobody heard Gary refer to "a major power failure" at the start of MOTD and express his hope that they'd be able to show all of the goals but couldn't promise anything? I dunno if that was why Liverpool vs Wolves had such a short edit but having watched the whole of that game, if anything I reckon it was too long. Anyway, if he'd not said it I doubt anyone would have noticed.
Wolves fans were annoyed at the lack of highlights and emailed the BBC to complain. MOTD Programme Editor Paul Armstrong passed the following statement to the club:
"As Gary Lineker explained at the start of Match of the Day on Wednesday, we had severe technical problems with a power cut at BBC Television Centre meaning that we lost pictures, and all our match recordings, for most of the second half of Wednesday's matches. We were very close to having to cancel the show altogether and made it clear on the air that it was difficult to provide viewers with our usual service, but that we were doing our best.
The Wigan and Chelsea games were BBC Outside Broadcasts so we were able to record the coverage and commentary in our vans at the game and edit most of the major incidents together once power was restored. Liverpool v Wolves was a Sky live game so while they very kindly sent the key incidents to us again once their broadcast was finished and our power was restored, we were unable to reflect the finer details of the second half. We also had no commentary recorded from the second half either, so Steve Wilson had to recreate his commentary on Stephen Ward's goal, hence the slightly strange sound quality you may have noticed. Power was restored in time to record the post-match interviews, so we ran a lengthy excerpt of Mick McCarthy's interview and paid tribute to a fantastic Wolves win in the studio.
That said, we would certainly have run more of the game in normal circumstances. The technical problems were exacerbated by the fact it was a Wednesday night rather than a weekend afternoon game, so we had less than a hour from the final whistle until transmission to try to retrieve the bare bones of the story However, we'd like to apologise to any Wolves fans who were disappointed by MOTD on the night, and to assure them that the shortness of the edit was for technical, rather than editorial, reasons.
Best wishes
Paul Armstrong
Programme Editor, BBC Match of the Day."
Peter Jones, Ron Jones and Bryon Butler - peerless voices from my childhood spent listening to Radio 2 on rainy Saturday afternoons
Fantastic selection,Bryon Butler often gets missed out in these debates in favour of Peter Jones good to see someone
appreciate Ron as well,what you also had with that selection was differentiation between all.
They all sounded different and had their own characteristics
in voice and style unlike today with the scream until you like it
mentality.
Do you think they would have acquired the status they did had they been around competing in todays market?
Liverpool v Bolton - Gary Weaver and Barry Horne Man City v Blackpool - Tony Jones and Dean Sturridge Sunderland v Blackburn - Kevin Keatings and Andy Walker Spurs v Fulham - Gary Taphouse and Tony Gale
Fantastic selection,Bryon Butler often gets missed out in these debates in favour of Peter Jones good to see someone
appreciate Ron as well,what you also had with that selection was differentiation between all.
They all sounded different and had their own characteristics
in voice and style unlike today with the scream until you like it
mentality.
Do you think they would have acquired the status they did had they been around competing in todays market?
Thank you for your comments - even the names take me back - give me goosebumps . it's difficult to judge now because the radio football commentary market has changed so much. There is now so much football on TV that more and more commentators who would have remained on radio are more likely to switch to TV sooner rather than remain on radio. There is also a lot more football on radio than there used to be which means that there is more demand for radio commentators too.
However - much as I loved the old days football on radio is far better now than it was then - I can still remember the pain of tuning in to see if a midweek first division game was being covered on Radio 2 only to hear the starting music of Listen to the Band instead of Sport on 2 Unthinkable nowadays
On a different point, how old/new is that Samir Nasri chant for Arsenal? I appear to have heard it somewhere else this week...
You commented on Sky's darts coverage on the Sports Commentators thread a few days ago, so I'm guessing you heard a variant of this chant during Vincent Van Der Voort's matches at the World Darts Championship. The fans chant this to VVDV's name every time he plays, so much so that he has adopted the record it was based on as his walk-on music.
It's based on the chorus of Give It Up by KC and the Sunshine Band. It has been used for quite a few football players including Rafael Van Der Vaart and Sylvan Ebanks-Blake so it isn't all that new. One of the better recent sporting chants, I like it!
We were singing it with the words "Robbie Blake, Robbie Blake, Robbie Robbie Blake" (and Danny Ward) at a preseason match this summer, and Leeds United fans had it to "Going up, going up, Leeds are going up" in their promotion season last campaign. So not a completely new idea!
Gary Lineker presented alongside Alan Shearer and Mark Lawrenson
Liverpool v Bolton Wanderers - Alistair Mann West Bromwich Albion v Manchester United - Guy Mowbray Manchester City v Blackpool - Simon Brotherton Birmingham City v Arsenal - Jonathan Pearce West Ham United v Wolverhampton Wanderers - John Motson, with Jacqui Oatley interviewing Sunderland v Blackburn Rovers - Martin Fisher Stoke City v Everton - Steve Bower Tottenham Hotspur v Fulham - Steve Wilson
The Football League Show
Manish Bhasin presented alongside Leroy Rosenior, with Lizzie Greenwood-Hughes doing the e-mails
Leeds United v Middlesbrough - Dan O'Hagan Preston North End v Derby County - Mark Clemmit (reporting) Watford v Portsmouth - John Roder
Championship round-ups - Ian Payne and Jacqui Oatley League One and Two round-ups - Dave Beckett (yay!), Paul Walker (boo!) and Nick Halling (puns!)
Well, it is the panto season. But in all seriousness, it's good to hear Messers Beckett and Halling are back on the show.
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I didn't see any of Sky's live coverage last night, but as an LFC supporter I assume that I would have thought of Andy Gray and Alan Parry as very anti-Liverpool from about 56 minutes onwards
In the same manner, forum reguar 'Homesdale' has seemingly taken a dislike to almost every commentator punished with working on a West Ham game in the last 18 months
Tyler didn't cover the game with Gray, was Parry
Darn it
Same here - I was watching Phil Taylor v Peter Wright in the darts so only turned MOTD on at around 11pm (I felt quite smug when I found out the only edit I'd missed was the one Steve Wilson had commentated on).
I take it that Jonathan Pearce did the as-live commentary seeing as he was there for the Beeb to do the interviews. Am I right Mark?
I didn't watch MOTD, but had the BBC Sport live text updates open during last night, and the guy on there said they'd had a major power failure at Television Centre, and all the monitors showing the games had gone off.
Happy New Year to everyone on the thread and especially to my two favourite posters The Difference (hopefully lots of Bundesliga commentator chat in 2011) and wal28 who watches more football games than we have rainy days in Norn Iron!
Wolves fans were annoyed at the lack of highlights and emailed the BBC to complain. MOTD Programme Editor Paul Armstrong passed the following statement to the club:
"As Gary Lineker explained at the start of Match of the Day on Wednesday, we had severe technical problems with a power cut at BBC Television Centre meaning that we lost pictures, and all our match recordings, for most of the second half of Wednesday's matches. We were very close to having to cancel the show altogether and made it clear on the air that it was difficult to provide viewers with our usual service, but that we were doing our best.
The Wigan and Chelsea games were BBC Outside Broadcasts so we were able to record the coverage and commentary in our vans at the game and edit most of the major incidents together once power was restored. Liverpool v Wolves was a Sky live game so while they very kindly sent the key incidents to us again once their broadcast was finished and our power was restored, we were unable to reflect the finer details of the second half. We also had no commentary recorded from the second half either, so Steve Wilson had to recreate his commentary on Stephen Ward's goal, hence the slightly strange sound quality you may have noticed. Power was restored in time to record the post-match interviews, so we ran a lengthy excerpt of Mick McCarthy's interview and paid tribute to a fantastic Wolves win in the studio.
That said, we would certainly have run more of the game in normal circumstances. The technical problems were exacerbated by the fact it was a Wednesday night rather than a weekend afternoon game, so we had less than a hour from the final whistle until transmission to try to retrieve the bare bones of the story However, we'd like to apologise to any Wolves fans who were disappointed by MOTD on the night, and to assure them that the shortness of the edit was for technical, rather than editorial, reasons.
Best wishes
Paul Armstrong
Programme Editor, BBC Match of the Day."
Tyler's call on the equaliser was easily the best call I've heard this decade.
Ian Darke on ESPN2 i dont know who with
Steve McManaman pitchside today
John Motson on West Ham vs Wolves for MOTD later
John Rawlings and Craig Burley on PLTV which I presume is the international feed
Peter Jones, Ron Jones and Bryon Butler - peerless voices from my childhood spent listening to Radio 2 on rainy Saturday afternoons
Strong outing for Tyler and Gray today, good bit banter to open up 2011!
Fantastic selection,Bryon Butler often gets missed out in these debates in favour of Peter Jones good to see someone
appreciate Ron as well,what you also had with that selection was differentiation between all.
They all sounded different and had their own characteristics
in voice and style unlike today with the scream until you like it
mentality.
Do you think they would have acquired the status they did had they been around competing in todays market?
Liverpool v Bolton - Gary Weaver and Barry Horne
Man City v Blackpool - Tony Jones and Dean Sturridge
Sunderland v Blackburn - Kevin Keatings and Andy Walker
Spurs v Fulham - Gary Taphouse and Tony Gale
Thank you for your comments - even the names take me back - give me goosebumps
However - much as I loved the old days football on radio is far better now than it was then - I can still remember the pain of tuning in to see if a midweek first division game was being covered on Radio 2 only to hear the starting music of Listen to the Band instead of Sport on 2
Are you one of those pedants a year late in claiming we are in a new decade?
Er, we are in a new decade.
Oh, and the missing world feed commentator is Joe Speight at West Ham v Wolves.
Stewart Robson was the co-comm.
Welcome to the teen(ie)s then.
On a different point, how old/new is that Samir Nasri chant for Arsenal? I appear to have heard it somewhere else this week...
You commented on Sky's darts coverage on the Sports Commentators thread a few days ago, so I'm guessing you heard a variant of this chant during Vincent Van Der Voort's matches at the World Darts Championship. The fans chant this to VVDV's name every time he plays, so much so that he has adopted the record it was based on as his walk-on music.
It's based on the chorus of Give It Up by KC and the Sunshine Band. It has been used for quite a few football players including Rafael Van Der Vaart and Sylvan Ebanks-Blake so it isn't all that new. One of the better recent sporting chants, I like it!
Match of the Day
Gary Lineker presented alongside Alan Shearer and Mark Lawrenson
Liverpool v Bolton Wanderers - Alistair Mann
West Bromwich Albion v Manchester United - Guy Mowbray
Manchester City v Blackpool - Simon Brotherton
Birmingham City v Arsenal - Jonathan Pearce
West Ham United v Wolverhampton Wanderers - John Motson, with Jacqui Oatley interviewing
Sunderland v Blackburn Rovers - Martin Fisher
Stoke City v Everton - Steve Bower
Tottenham Hotspur v Fulham - Steve Wilson
The Football League Show
Manish Bhasin presented alongside Leroy Rosenior, with Lizzie Greenwood-Hughes doing the e-mails
Leeds United v Middlesbrough - Dan O'Hagan
Preston North End v Derby County - Mark Clemmit (reporting)
Watford v Portsmouth - John Roder
Championship round-ups - Ian Payne and Jacqui Oatley
League One and Two round-ups - Dave Beckett (yay!), Paul Walker (boo!) and Nick Halling (puns!)
Well, it is the panto season.